How do you walk into a courtroom with unalienable Rights endowed by your creator with an argument that the creator has no place in the public place. Better yet, how do you manage to win a case like that. That’s really no different then suing yourself for negligence because you slipped on an ice patch in front of your own home. Why didn’t we have gay tolerance classes, sex education classes, birth control pills, condoms, metal detectors, police officers and so on in the public schools prior to our liberal enlightenment?. Well, public schools in those day’s had a God. They had some moral foundation.
Isn’t it a fact that we replaced the Creator with a higher moral authority liberals and their liberal ideology. That there is a direct line or correlation between the attack on and removal of God from schools and the necessary implementation of birth control pills, condoms and all the above mentioned. Where is the proof of a creator, where is the proof we hitched a ride on an asteroid. Besides, If there is no creator then I guess we can all kiss those unalienable Rights bye-bye. In case you haven’t noticed lately them unalienable Rights are getting a bit slimmer with every day that goes by.
God has had a long and successful career in America up until recent decades hence, God was good to America but like always the liberals seemingly want to fix things that aren’t broken. America once had the best public education on earth. Today, were struggling for last place with Mexico. The Nation was united with a sense of pride. Today, were getting sued for putting religious ornaments out for Christmas. Kids use to get out for Easter, spend sometime with the family. Today, no more Easter it’s spring break. Off to Cancun for booze, drugs, sex, herpes, gonorrhea, girls gone wild camera’s and MTV. Life is one big party man. The irresponsible burden the responsible. The immoral burden the moral. The unaccountable burden the accountable. The self-inflicted burden the successful. My fault you quit school, never married and have 3 kids. Better yet, it’s the creator fault that’s why we banished him/she/ it freaken quack job.
Were no longer one Nation under God, were one Nation under a cesspool of debt, failure, deceit, immorality and aborted babies. What’s the liberal take on this?, hey man they didn’t put God in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954 as if this country and it’s people prior to 1954 had no God foundation. These people never walk into a courtroom requesting reprieve from their unalienable Rights based on a no Creator argument. These people/ groups/ organizations use the unalienable Rights argument for minorities, degenerates and every screw ball they can find walk out the courtroom only to return the very next day arguing that the creator has no place in the public place. When will the Courts put a stop to this madness.
In closing,
Too much Creator, not healthy. Too much liberalism, not healthy. Where is the common ground. How can we stop hypocritical legislation. Kill the babies, save the polar bears. 2+2 = 5 but I gotta A+ in gay tolerance. I’ve been listening to it takes 10 years to get oil out of the ground in the United States for 40 freaken years. Make a gallon of Ethanol by using 1 ½ gallon of diesel. The earth is warming, the earth is cooling. Which one is it?. Tax the rich until their poor too. Make smaller lighter cars for better fuel efficiency and get killed by a kamikaze June bug. We were all suppose to be extinct by now from global cooling what the hell happened. Bail yourself out of debt by spending more money. Has anyone here ever seen that work?. Develop environmental friendly fuels so were less reliant on Saudia Arabia and more reliant on Enron. The Creator isn’t the highest authority the ACLU is. Who in the hell needs a God when ya got Oprah and Dr. Phil.
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exvagabond
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Jun 18 @ 5:49AM
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How do you walk into a courtroom with unalienable Rights endowed by your creator… If you're a Christian, whose guru told you not to swear on anything, but only affirm, then how do you swear on a Bible?
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Herodotus
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Jun 18 @ 6:19AM
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Myths
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 18 @ 8:44AM
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Why didn’t we have gay tolerance classes, sex education classes, birth control pills, condoms, metal detectors, police officers and so on in the public schools prior to our liberal enlightenment?. Well, public schools in those day’s had a God. They had some moral foundation.
 
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observed50
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Jun 18 @ 11:30AM
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Your rights are 'human rights'...
not 'god-giveth rights'...
Regardless of beliefs, you enter a courtroom as a person...not a creation...
Regardless of gods, you have access to the law and its implications, not law if you're god-fearin...
I wouldn't go into a court thinking God was the final arbiter...
I would go in realizing that the judge and/or jury is...
and I thank my lucky stars that gods aren't involved since they're obviously exceedingly fickle critters...approving of jihads, and West Bank settlements, the killing of doctors, and the general social violence that underlies any group that thinks it has a special corner on the truth.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 18 @ 9:03PM
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So what your saying Oberved50 in short that were a better country today as a result of liberalism and the removal of God from the public place then before. That the idea of a Creator and the removal of from public schools has had a positive impact on both education and students.
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exvagabond
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Jun 19 @ 7:20AM
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So what your saying Oberved50 in short that were a better country today as a result of liberalism and the removal of God from the public place then before. Observed50 may or may not, but I will.
That the idea of a Creator and the removal of from public schools has had a positive impact on both education and students. If they can't be disciplined/whipped for refusing to pray in public on demand, then that is positive.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 19 @ 7:24AM
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Observed50 may or may not, but I will
In what way(s) do you find the country better?. Serious question.
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observed50
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Jun 19 @ 8:21AM
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Supreme> Let's give your question serious value for a sec...
Without liberalism, schools wouldn't have in their seats, girls, kids of color, kids without parents who are large landholders or business people. Universal education is not a conservative, religious value in history, or in much of the world...it is a liberal value.
Gods in school are the madras in south Asia and Catholic schools in Ireland. God in school in the US made no difference to one student I know who wasn't in a religious school.
Gods in school in the US, supported Jim Crow laws, and corporal punishment for kids, punishment that was abused on a constant basis.
Increasing accessibility to a college education...a liberal value. Conservative religion discounts education but for job training and seminaries, because they know the more education, the more likely is one to leave behind the beliefs of old. It is a natural outcome of the enhancement of doubt that a broad education brings forward.
Increasing the equal access to schools...a liberal value. Conservatives and their righteous religious systems, backed 'state rights' or i.e., don't make my kids go to school with them colored kids!'
I went into teaching because I thought teaching sucked when I was a kid, almost 50 years ago. The number of teachers I would tell you about that were wonderful...3 of them K-12, 3 of them BS-PhDs (365 hrs post high school education)...and that is true for most people across generations...less than a handful of good teachers.
We've gone from small community schools, one room school houses, to large industrial school campuses. We've gone from close neighborhood schools, to consolidated districts. We've gone from low technology lives, to high technology lives. I remember my grandfather getting the first colored tv in my home town, and how big that news was. Now, every room in a house has color tv, and some on 50+ inch screens. We've moved from being a society with a bit of entertainment, to a society trying to entertain you to mindless numbness. Music was a family and community event, now its a personal isolating consumption. Schools which were exceedingly successful in educating a labor blue collar pool, prove less and less successful at producing a well educated white collar labor pool, as they can't think critically, have poor social skills, and have minimal skills at leadership and creative problem solution.
Is any of the above related to god-fictions in schools? No. It's about population growth, technology change, more diverse communities, shedding of historic structural inequalities. If you think saying a prayer in school made kids behave, I have a million teachers who can tell you different. If you think prayer helped teachers, they can tell you only their private prayers to focus on little Johnny dropping dead. Kids have far more options of behavior to choose from. Thousands of hours of TV, thousands of hours of whatever music, and now thousands of hours of time on the web...absorbing absorbing absorbing...who am I to be and what am I to do.
Gods are what happen for most human beings in their moments of crisis...as the saying goes...no atheists in foxholes. Kids pray when they haven't studied. They pray for the end of abuse by parents. They pray for the date, or the skateboard. They pray the teacher won't call on them. They don't tremble thinking "I must behave." Teachers don't teach better because they believe in gods...if that was true...we wouldn't have the damage that religious schools do to kids.
In conclusion...public schools and their issues have little to do with gods and their followers, but for the constant interference in curricula development to maintain thinking of centuries past.
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adonair
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Jun 19 @ 9:45PM
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I wouldn't go into a court thinking God was the final arbiter...
I would go in realizing that the judge and/or jury is...
Nobody does anything that God doesn't want done. That's how the jury decides.
If you're not a Christian, you won't understand that statement, but it will be something for you to think about.
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skyscraper948
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Jun 20 @ 11:13AM
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Supreme> Let's give your question serious value for a sec...
Without liberalism, schools wouldn't have in their seats, girls, kids of color, kids without parents who are large landholders or business people. Universal education is not a conservative, religious value in history, or in much of the world...it is a liberal value.
Gods in school are the madras in south Asia and Catholic schools in Ireland. God in school in the US made no difference to one student I know who wasn't in a religious school.
Gods in school in the US, supported Jim Crow laws, and corporal punishment for kids, punishment that was abused on a constant basis.
Increasing accessibility to a college education...a liberal value. Conservative religion discounts education but for job training and seminaries, because they know the more education, the more likely is one to leave behind the beliefs of old. It is a natural outcome of the enhancement of doubt that a broad education brings forward.
Increasing the equal access to schools...a liberal value. Conservatives and their righteous religious systems, backed 'state rights' or i.e., don't make my kids go to school with them colored kids!'
I went into teaching because I thought teaching sucked when I was a kid, almost 50 years ago. The number of teachers I would tell you about that were wonderful...3 of them K-12, 3 of them BS-PhDs (365 hrs post high school education)...and that is true for most people across generations...less than a handful of good teachers.
We've gone from small community schools, one room school houses, to large industrial school campuses. We've gone from close neighborhood schools, to consolidated districts. We've gone from low technology lives, to high technology lives. I remember my grandfather getting the first colored tv in my home town, and how big that news was. Now, every room in a house has color tv, and some on 50+ inch screens. We've moved from being a society with a bit of entertainment, to a society trying to entertain you to mindless numbness. Music was a family and community event, now its a personal isolating consumption. Schools which were exceedingly successful in educating a labor blue collar pool, prove less and less successful at producing a well educated white collar labor pool, as they can't think critically, have poor social skills, and have minimal skills at leadership and creative problem solution.
Is any of the above related to god-fictions in schools? No. It's about population growth, technology change, more diverse communities, shedding of historic structural inequalities. If you think saying a prayer in school made kids behave, I have a million teachers who can tell you different. If you think prayer helped teachers, they can tell you only their private prayers to focus on little Johnny dropping dead. Kids have far more options of behavior to choose from. Thousands of hours of TV, thousands of hours of whatever music, and now thousands of hours of time on the web...absorbing absorbing absorbing...who am I to be and what am I to do.
Gods are what happen for most human beings in their moments of crisis...as the saying goes...no atheists in foxholes. Kids pray when they haven't studied. They pray for the end of abuse by parents. They pray for the date, or the skateboard. They pray the teacher won't call on them. They don't tremble thinking "I must behave." Teachers don't teach better because they believe in gods...if that was true...we wouldn't have the damage that religious schools do to kids.
In conclusion...public schools and their issues have little to do with gods and their followers, but for the constant interference in curricula development to maintain thinking of centuries past.
Great post observed! Well said.
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