If it's a statement of hate, intolerance, "your kind has to leave", etc. it is still about prejudice even if it is directed to a person of a sex, size, religion, country, etc. that you also don't like.
If it's a statement of hate, intolerance, "your kind has to leave", etc. it is still about prejudice even if it is directed to a person of a sex, size, religion, country, etc. that also included people who make similar statements against others.
Even more so if you lump all the people of that sex, size, religion, country, or etc. together and judge them all by the actions of a few.
It is not good natured "cage rattling" if one group does a thing, but "hate crimes" if the other person either returns it or objects to it.
Equality is a lovely thing, but, it is never achieved, unless and until you are willing to grant that even your most despised enemy, much less just the person you could care less about one way or the other, has the same rights and privileges.
Which I say primarily to the people who told me I have to leave this site because I politely told a "vampire" that I won't be answering his emails. Because guess what?
Not answering emails of someone you don't wish to privately hear from is not a hate crime. Posting public insults of a certain person or type of person is.
Though, in many cases, people assume a lot about what is and is not insult. IE:
"I can't stand Nazis" is not an insult. It is a statement of preference.
"All Nazis are butt licking doo doo heads" is an insult.
"All Nazis are butt licking doo doo heads who deserve to be ground up as sausage. In fact, all Germans because we know they are all Nazis, anyway" is a hate crime.
That's right! Even though they are the people who are considered by the majority of the world to have committed the worst, and biggest, spree of hate crimes ever, it's still a hate crime to say that Nazis should be ground up as sausage; and, even more so, to lump all Germans past and present together, assuming that they are all alike.
Nasty business that!
As long as people continue to perpetrate hate crimes against each other, small scale or large scale, and as long as other people stand idly by while the hate is being spewed forth - even more so if they are laughing over it, and telling the people under attack to just suck it up - instead of demanding a common ground of decency towards others, there will never be peace.
Now, pardon me while I sit back and laugh, as many people assume emotions that never existed during the writing of this blog.
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snidegrass

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Jun 24 @ 9:04AM
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couldn't have said it better myself. now pray tell me the origin of space in 100 words or more.
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i8yurdog

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Jun 24 @ 9:05AM
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Pretty presumptuous really, I have mulled over a million ways to analyze prejudice, and frankly, I have concluded that it is not only our right to say what the heII we please, it is our duty. If we continually go around never pointing out the obvious flaws attributed to specific nationalities, or in your case species, none will ever try to prove us wrong.
Now, beating up someone, whether it be because they are Hawiian or their junk was hanging out of their shorts in gym class is just wrong. But dammed me if I don't make fun of the dumbass in hopes he won't embarrass himself the next day.
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dizzydoll

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Jun 24 @ 9:14AM
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couldn't have said it better myself. now pray tell me the origin of space in 100 words or more. excellent, glad to see you popped in again
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jcarolina

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Jun 24 @ 9:18AM
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Hopeless, you're looking a bit gray today, I hope you aren't coming down with something.
MD isn't a place for intelligent debate, many of the bloggers here appear to have been victims of schoolyard bullies, and now that they can defend themselves from behind a computer monitor, they take their vengeance on anyone who doesn't agree with them.
As for myself, I wasn't a bully, nor was I victimized by them. I was more the kid who stood up for the demoralized. Unfortunately some of these people cannot differentiate between intelligent objectivity and resentment driven subjectivity, which is understandable, but very sad.
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Herodotus

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Jun 24 @ 9:20AM
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Well said. I personally am not prepared to tolerate racism or mysoginist sentiments.
There are a number of bloggers, of that ilk, who inhabit this site. I have never told anyone, that they should not be on this site, or that we don't want their kind here. I have experienced some people on her, who are still grappling with social skills pre school and one can only wonder how suhc gems of humanity can find themselves in search of a significat other on a dating site. Maybe its a poor choice of eau de toilette or simply odeur de toilette.
I for one would hate you to go but hey why dont those that think you should leave beat you to it?
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HopelesslyHopeful

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Jun 24 @ 9:22AM
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Now, beating up someone, whether it be because they are Hawiian or their junk was hanging out of their shorts in gym class is just wrong.
Well, guess what? That puts you in fundamental agreement with everything I just said! So presumpt this (assume rude gesture, and, then laugh)!
I never said one cannot, or should not, point out flaws. Pointing out flaws, having opinions, as I showed in my example, is not the same thing as insult or hate crime.
If you think it's wrong for a group of people to raise up and start "ethnically cleansing" another group of people, it certainly is your duty to say so. However, if the tables get reversed, it is still your duty to object to the action, even though you probably already are fairly well disgusted by the first group, by then.
And,actions include words! If the words are written, or spoken, to promote hatred, they are words that should be condemned, regardless of whom they are directed against.
Which was why I said to said person of pointed teeth that I do not talk like that about him, his religious beliefs, his god, etc. and I would appreciate the same courtesy. Strange how many people think me asking for the same courtesy that I extend to others to be me oppressing someone!
Anyway, as I said, somewhere else, I have no time for this today, answering comments. It's just that yours was right there and rather interesting.
It's kind of a bummer the way it goes, though. I thought I would still be getting email notices of comments being made, so that I could read the ones of certain people, if I felt like it. Oh well!
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HopelesslyHopeful

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Jun 24 @ 9:24AM
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Hopeless, you're looking a bit gray today, I hope you aren't coming down with something.
hee hee I just put up new photos and they haven't been approved yet.
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HopelesslyHopeful

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Jun 24 @ 9:28AM
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*ahem* As it turns out, I was right and I am receiving the emails that comments were made, still! It just took a wee bit for the emails to reach me, right at first.
Just saying, by way of correcting what I said in that other comment!
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edthepoet

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Jun 24 @ 9:36AM
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Now, I do agree mostly with what your blog is about, so you get a kudo for that.
As for me, the freedom of speech is necessary, because no one will ever be to draw the line where it should be and who would be that perfect person, unless Jesus comeback, that will never happen. His death is a perfect example of denying free speech.
Look at what's happen now in Iran, with no right to protest.
Excellent blog.
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lovestobake

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Jun 24 @ 9:51AM
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Does a person have the right to say what they want, I answer yes with a few exceptions, as you can't yell fire in a crowded theater if there is no fire. Does a person have the right or maybe a duty to object to what is said, I answer yes again. Does a person have the right to say what they want on md, I answer no, this is determined by the owners of the site. So in my humble opinion any person wanting to take away any of these rights is wrong.
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edthepoet

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Jun 24 @ 10:03AM
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I do agree with what lovetobake wrote, yes, common sense does come into play and of course, this site does and should have the right to censor.
I give MD major credit for mostly allowing people to voice their opinions with little interference.
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mik48

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Jun 24 @ 11:50AM
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Bravo and so well put! It is a sad commentary upon this site and the world that such people are allowed to write hatred in their comments and blogs. Hugs Michael
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