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  skyscraper948

I dont get it.

Iran is a weak nation, with a weak military and weak economy. The people live under sharia law.... but so does saudi arabia. The government cracks down harshly on protesters... but so does Israel and china. We dont want to allow them to have nuclear weapons... but we allowed Israel, pakistan and india to get them... And how can we expect them NOT to want them when we (and Israel) have openly threatened them for the last eight years and meddled in their affairs for much, much longer, at least since 1953.

It makes no sense.

We, as a nation, are becoming the hypocrites of the world. And it saddens me.

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Comments:
edthepoet

Jun 24 @ 10:07AM  
You make valid points in your blog, though we should worried about the unknown until the dust settle.

Making rash decisions or speeches at this point is futile and unwise.

Obama has been doing the right thing in this case.

It's always better to response then to over-react.
chatillion

Jun 24 @ 10:14AM  
skyscraper948 said:
Iran is a weak nation, with a weak military and weak economy.

... and so is America. I think we should stop bluffing the world on our strength before someone calls us on it.

Just my point of view.
john49887

Jun 24 @ 10:24AM  
Why are we concerned about Iran?????

Exxon wants the oil?
Herodotus

Jun 24 @ 10:43AM  
Totally agree with your points other than the Wahhabi Sheiks rule Saudi Arabia (the home of Bin Laden and many of his apparatchiks ) but buy shed loads of weapons from the US and Britain so can be called allies.

Iran has a notional democracy ruled over my despotic clerics and miltary. Without them I think you would see a liberal democracy there.

skyscraper948

Jun 24 @ 10:45AM  
Exxon wants the oil?

Exactly... And the U.S. doesn't want a government that is not in their pocket to have control of the Straits of Hormuz. Closing that waterway would bring the world to its knees in a matter of hours and probably start WW3. hmmmmm... interesting.
marylou

Jun 24 @ 10:54AM  
.....because the Leaders of Iran......are wolves in sheeps clothing......they arent building weapons to defend themselves.........they are sneaky and have other plans for them........and US and everyone knows it. Simple as that !!!
DRACULA_VwV

Jun 24 @ 10:57AM  
America and England, invade Iran, Russia retaliates, China backs Russia, America nukes China, China becomes depopulated and regulated in an instant, Nukes permeate the earth's surface, All systems fail, The rise of a nongovernmental/nonreligious worldleader, Church destruction, And religion abolished, The nature of all things revealed.
Herodotus

Jun 24 @ 11:03AM  
Trust Dracula to always see the upside of things
DRACULA_VwV

Jun 24 @ 11:09AM  
What would you do after a nuclear war, I'd finish the job, That's for sure.
DRACULA_VwV

Jun 24 @ 11:11AM  
So that the system in place now, Will rise no more.
ttomtarr

Jun 24 @ 11:11AM  
Two reasons to meddle in Iran.

1 We don't want the bad guys to steal the Iranean oil.

2 We want to steal it ourselves.
skyscraper948

Jun 24 @ 11:18AM  
.....because the Leaders of Iran......are wolves in sheeps clothing......they arent building weapons to defend themselves.........they are sneaky and have other plans for them........and US and everyone knows it. Simple as that !!!

You're not claiming that Iran is stupid enough to give Nuclear weapons to terrorists, are you? I mean, the Iranians are religious crazies... but they are not stupid... or suicidal.
ttomtarr

Jun 24 @ 11:22AM  
.....because the Leaders of Iran......are wolves in sheeps clothing......they arent building weapons to defend themselves.........they are sneaky and have other plans for them........and US and everyone knows it. Simple as that !!!

Right ! And our ICBMs are fo fight off invaders landing on the beaches of Florida and California, Right?
skyscraper948

Jun 24 @ 11:32AM  
they arent building weapons to defend themselves.........they are sneaky and have other plans for them........and US and everyone knows it. Simple as that !!!

oh, and there is absolutely no evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons, btw. They have allowed in UN inspectors to their nuclear facilities (which are for civilian electricity generation and perfectly legal under international law). Israel has never allowed UN inspectors into their facility in the past 40 years, which is illegal. Hmmmmm... who's sneaky again???
lovestobake

Jun 24 @ 11:53AM  
Will not debate what went on 60 years ago, this is now. If those that have a job care to keep it the oil best flow for now. It is nice going to the grocery store to buy food to survive, let this stop, and we are eating worms to survive many would be the first to say take over Iran and rename it Exxon. It is easy to be civilized when you can afford it. The drac, is not to far off. We worry about Iran having nukes for the same reasons we don't want Pakistan to fall into the hands of the fanatics. They may or may not use or sell them, but; it will make it much harder to have some kind of order in that part of the world.
dizzydoll

Jun 24 @ 11:57AM  
We dont want to allow them to have nuclear weapons... but we allowed Israel, pakistan and india to get them...

I dont get this>>>>who voted that America makes the rules for the world?

but i suppose if they dont abide we can always go and bomb the sh1t out of them. that be the case, who pays?




dizzydoll

Jun 24 @ 12:01PM  
The first fission weapons, also known as "atomic bombs," were developed jointly by the United States, Britain and Canada during World War II in what was called the Manhattan Project.

i see only these countries are allowed

ttomtarr

Jun 24 @ 12:06PM  
Will not debate what went on 60 years ago, this is now

I commend your forgiving nature, but most wars have been fought over injuries much farther in the past than 60 years. Would you relinquish rights to your house if thuggs managed to take it from you, and occupy it since the 50s ? I doubt it.

The words of religeous leaders over 1,000 years dead have a major affect on today's world, with many people ready to fight, kill, or die tor that reason alone.

And "they" worry about us having nukes for fear they might fall into the hands of religeous fanatics. Can you remember any mealy mouthed clergymen blessing some very recent wars we started based on totally false premises?
dizzydoll

Jun 24 @ 12:06PM  
so does that mean, nuclear power stations are not allowed either?

i expect many will break OUR rules

so i expect another war pretty soon... pity Bushie isnt around to join the party,
dizzydoll

Jun 24 @ 12:14PM  
if i recall we didnt ALLOW pakistan to use nuclear, they did it without permission and they were threatened at the time and they DID NOT take heed

1RockinDude

Jun 24 @ 12:33PM  
It seems to me the insane President of Iran has said on more then one ocassion that he wants to wipe out Israel from the map...so his God can return
dizzydoll

Jun 24 @ 1:02PM  
as does pakistan want to wipe our india, if its going to happen no one can stop it.

The States, Canada and UK... should have thought before experimenting with nuclear fusion, knowing full well of potential dangers... but of course they always know better. so its up to them to decide again who uses nuclear and who doesnt....now??



kjac

Jun 24 @ 1:03PM  
It seems to me that the civil unrest in Iran benefits us greatly. It keeps them busy, and therefore more worried about their own problems than they are creating more for everyone else.
skyscraper948

Jun 24 @ 5:16PM  
It seems to me the insane President of Iran has said on more then one ocassion that he wants to wipe out Israel from the map...so his God can return

He did not say this, even though its been said in the media he did... the actual quote was "The Zionist regime will be erased from the pages of time." And they weren't his words anyway... he was quoting Ayatollah Khomeni. The misleading quote came from a "news" organization which had ties to Israeli intelligence.

And even if he did say this, what difference does it make to the U.S.? Israel is not an ally anymore, since the cold war ended. In fact, they are a burden... on our image in the world and our tax dollars.
skyscraper948

Jun 24 @ 5:28PM  
so does that mean, nuclear power stations are not allowed either?

No... nuclear power stations are perfectly legal under international law.

The States, Canada and UK... should have thought before experimenting with nuclear fusion, knowing full well of potential dangers... but of course they always know better. so its up to them to decide again who uses nuclear and who doesnt....now??

Agreed... in a perfect world there would be no nuclear weapons... but what if we sat back during WW2 and allowed the Nazi's to develop an atomic bomb first... what would the world be like today? hmmmmm....

We dont want to allow them to have nuclear weapons... but we allowed Israel, pakistan and india to get them...

I dont get this>>>>who voted that America makes the rules for the world?

What i meant by "allowed" was not that we gave permission (although in some cases we did). But we were not willing to act to prevent it... therefore "allowing" it.


dizzydoll

Jun 24 @ 6:29PM  
but what if we sat back during WW2 and allowed the Nazi's to develop an atomic bomb first.

this isnt true

according to Wikipedia:

The first fission weapons, also known as "atomic bombs," were developed jointly by the United States, Britain and Canada during World War II in what was called the Manhattan Project.

and nobody in the world could stop Pakistan, the whole world tried even threatened them with sanctions and they said bring it on and went ahead anyway.

the US have chosen a very dangerous course by interfering with the Arabs from day one... choosing who should and shouldnt be in power etc... you know the history better than i. no Arab state has any respect for the US, in fact they hate Americans now.... they dont hate other countries as much as the US and probably the UK now too.
dizzydoll

Jun 24 @ 6:44PM  
if the Nazi's had been first you can be sure Hitler would have built his own atomic bombs and no one could have stopped him.
ElmerFudd445

Jun 24 @ 11:34PM  
Actually.. Germany was the first to start work for the "bomb"

On August 2, 1939, just before the beginning of World War II, Albert Einstein wrote to then President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Einstein and several other scientists told Roosevelt of efforts in Nazi Germany to purify uranium-235, which could be used to build an atomic bomb..

And now it has come out that Japan toward the end of WWII almost accomplished the same thing.. and where close to testing it ..

"If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the mighty one." and "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." Robert Oppenheimer after the first test of the atomic bomb.
ttomtarr

Jun 24 @ 11:43PM  
Gee, Elmer, do you mean to tell me those great American inventors, Openhiemer, Einstein, and Werner von Braun weren't born in Chicago?
ElmerFudd445

Jun 24 @ 11:47PM  
For got the finish...

So, unfortunately (or fortunately) our country did what it had to do..

By the way... The main reason the US has supported Israel over the years.. During WWII Israelis (which at the time had no country) where the only ones in the region that were our allies.. the rest of the middle east where fighting with Hitler...
ElmerFudd445

Jun 24 @ 11:52PM  
actually.. Openhiemer was born in New York.. but god bless those other Chicago
scientist !
skyscraper948

Jun 25 @ 8:26AM  
By the way... The main reason the US has supported Israel over the years.. During WWII Israelis (which at the time had no country) where the only ones in the region that were our allies.. the rest of the middle east where fighting with Hitler...

This is not true... not sure where you got this from. After WW1 most the middle east countries were under british or french occupation, because of the break-up of the ottoman/turkish empire after the war, and actively fought on the side of the allies. in fact, many of the zionists during this time actually worked with the nazis, because hitler had considered transfer to palestine as a possible "solution to the jewish problem" in europe.
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