legacy1
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Jun 25 @ 11:23PM
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As usual....always looking for cheap heat. Not cool! 
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Snappygoddess
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Jun 25 @ 11:26PM
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Being weird doesn't automatically mean you are guilty of being a child molester. Not like the media has always told the truth or never made anyone out to be guilty when no one really knows if they are or aren't. 
None of us were there...we don't know. I am not a fan of Michael Jackson but I believe he was made out to be something he wasn't.....true he didn't help his cause with his behavior.. but that doesn't mean he molested children. Once the media makes a story out to be gospel truth no one in the limelight ever gets their life back do they? 
I hate the way people jump on the bandwagon to flog someone who is already dead. 
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 25 @ 11:27PM
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Was he or was he not a man that slept with children?. Can you supply a justification for that?. Would you let Michael Jackson sleep with your children?.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 25 @ 11:27PM
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In case you were so wound up in yourself you missed it...he was found
NOT GUILTY!!!! 
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 25 @ 11:28PM
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Being weird doesn't automatically mean you are guilty of being a child molester
Would you let him sleep with your children?.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 25 @ 11:30PM
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In case you were so wound up in yourself you missed it...he was found
NOT GUILTY!!!!
So was O.J. Simpson. Would you marry him?. Because your found not guilty doesn't mean you didn't do the crime.
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starflower10
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Jun 25 @ 11:30PM
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Guess he is facing his judgment now.
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sybnann
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Jun 25 @ 11:33PM
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No, I wouldn't have let any man sleep with my children, BUT that in itself is not to say that he was INDEED a child molestor!!! Innocent until proven guilty!!!!! The man is gone... please allow him to rest in peace and give him the benefit of the doubt!
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edthepoet
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Jun 25 @ 11:35PM
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When a person dies, so your hatred of that person,otherwise the only living thing from that person is the hatred your walking around until your dead.
Everyone would have bet money you be attacking him, and won big time.
God made vultures for a reason I guess.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 25 @ 11:37PM
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No, I wouldn't have let any man sleep with my children, BUT that in itself is not to say that he was INDEED a child molestor!!! Innocent until proven guilty!!!!! The man is gone... please allow him to rest in peace and give him the benefit of the doubt!
What kind of indicator do you need that a man is a child molester. If your husband was sleeping with children what would that indicate?
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Snappygoddess
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Jun 25 @ 11:37PM
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Were you there? Where is YOUR proof that he did in fact molest those children.???
All I am saying is that none of us know because we were not there and I do not believe his money bought him a not guilty plea.
Really hard to say if I would let my children sleep with him.. it's speculation now anyway.
The man is dead...if you had happened to like the man, would you still be flogging on a dead man with dead issues??
Let it go.. your venom is showing and there's really no need for it here.. 
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 25 @ 11:38PM
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I have always said this..and think it to this day....
Michael Jackson LOVED children as much as anyone does...probably more...and tho he was a grown man, he was mentally still a child, and living his childhood fantasies, that he never enjoyed as our children have, because of the life his parents forced him to live. I feel the idea of HURTING a child like the media and people like you choose to blather about would never be something he could do.
I abhor any and all child predators in the worst way, but have NEVER considered Michael one of them. Like I said...he was just an overgrown child that loved to see other children happy, and had the means to make his and their fantasies come true.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 25 @ 11:40PM
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When a person dies, so your hatred of that person,otherwise the only living thing from that person is the hatred your walking around until your dead.
Everyone would have bet money you be attacking him, and won big time.
God made vultures for a reason I guess.
I liked Michael Jackson up until I found out he was sleeping with children. If you people can still like a person after you found out that they were sleeping with children that's pretty screwed up.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 25 @ 11:42PM
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Michael Jackson LOVED children as much as anyone does...probably more...and tho he was a grown man, he was mentally still a child, and living his childhood fantasies
And his child fantasy was sleeping with children?. You people will find any excuse let me tell you. Your just as screwed up as he was.
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starflower10
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Jun 25 @ 11:44PM
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Guilty or not guilty. We cannot judge but the Lord can and probably already has.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 25 @ 11:47PM
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So was O.J
people don't want to believe their "idols" could possibly do anything to hurt someone.
In their minds they know these celebrities and performers. The fact is, we don't know them at all.
OJ was acquitted. We all know he's guilty.
No grown man should be sleeping in bed with other peoples kids.
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Herodotus
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Jun 25 @ 11:49PM
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One of the greatest musical talents the World has seen. Adored and enjoyed by millions and you cant find one decent word to say.
He faced trial. He was found not guilty but then again that wouldn't be enough for you. Another fact you choose to "overlook".Still thats never got in your way before has it.
Perhaps in judging him, though the thought of you judging anyone but yourself, reviles me, you should consider what kind of society and culture, turns a beautiful young talented black kid into the person he felt he had to become.
I think you may have reached your lowest point but somehow I just know you can stoop even lower. Shame on you!
The comments above will have little effect on you because your arrogance, ignorance, plain stupiidty and a skin as thick as a rhino will not permeate. Enjoy the rest of your life alone because thats more than you deserve.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 25 @ 11:54PM
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Since when does *sleeping* mean *molesting*?
If that was the case...there would be no more slumber parties....
I reiterate...the courts weighed the evidence and ruled it was false and unjust...
And no little runt can, no matter how *supreme* he thinks he is, make it so.....
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 25 @ 11:58PM
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Since when does *sleeping* mean *molesting*?
LOL So you would let your children sleep in bed alone with a man you don't know?  No really?
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legacy1
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Jun 26 @ 12:01AM
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You ALL fell into his trap...he suckered you into his game and guess who won? He does this shit for the joy of pissing people off..plain and simple and the more you throw your somewhat sane comments at him...he is right there to fight back with his insane BS...he knows it...just let him play by himself and this thread would have been just as dead as the King Of Pop himself.... 
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jcarolina
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Jun 26 @ 12:04AM
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I'm with Tirimisu on this. I didn't find out he was molesting kids because it was never proven. I never liked Jackson, or most of his music, but I admire and respect his talent and what he did with it.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 12:07AM
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The whole issue fires me up.
3 months ago i spent 8 hours listening to my friend L's 8 year old son in Child Talk explicitely talk about how his uncle molested him. The State PD has Medical proof that it happened. They have the guys DNA from her son. The Uncle is still a free man. This was 3 months ago. NOTHING has happened to the Uncle. Nothing.
Upon him coming forward to talk about the Uncle, he also explained how sometime last year, his 15 year old cousin molested him too. They know it's true because the little pervert admitted it when the cops went to talk to him. He's still walking free. Because they didn't want to treat him as an adult, he's free to do it again. No consequences. AND her family is mad at her son for telling anyone. THEY ARE MAD AT THE VICTIM FOR TELLING THE POLICE. Their own 8 year old family member, they are mad at.
Now her son is behaving terribly, he attempted to molest a friend during a sleepover and has been acting out by hurting himself.
He pays for it and the perverts walk free.
Oh the society we live in.
No respect for the born or unborn.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 12:11AM
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RWP....that was truely one of the most assinine questions posted....
and deserves no dignity by getting an answer... 
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legacy1
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Jun 26 @ 12:12AM
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Ok RWR...let's see you have on one hand an actual pervert who has f***ed up the lives of kids you know etc...on the other hand you have parents proven to accuse a music icon for the all mighty dollar and was aquited by a jury of his peers only to have said accusations said to be guilty when proven false?
I think the proof for me was before the trial they-(LAPD) had MJ disrobe to show his penis and the markings the kid(s) described proved to be not correct with their testimony...Hmmm interesting! 
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 12:18AM
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RWP....that was truely one of the most assinine questions posted....
and deserves no dignity by getting an answer..
But you didn't answer it.. You're the one who said Since when does *sleeping* mean *molesting*?OK, So would you allow your kids to "sleep" with a man you don't know?
Not assinine at all. You make it sound like it would be ok with you.
Legacy, ok let's say that we all believe he's innocent. All of us. How he behaved is going to raise eyebrows. Regardless of who he is. You just don't sleep with other peoples kids. Don't openly give people reasons to think that way about you. He just left himself wide open for it. It don't look good. Not at all.
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gunn12fan
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Jun 26 @ 12:28AM
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Im sorry he passed on but good lord move on to something different its over and done
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 12:34AM
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No one ever said he wasn't guilty of bad judgement.....but children never think about the consequences of bad judgement.
I think if he had been allowed, he would have given away his fame to be able to continue to pretend he was still a child. That was where he was happiest, and why he was so devastated when the media and money-grubbing people turned it into something so reprehensible.
I was never a MJ fan...not my kind of music...but I can recognize the huge talent this man/child had...and am sad for the loss.
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 12:36AM
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Being found not guilty is not the same as being innocent. He was a pedophile and I for one say Good Riddance!
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 12:38AM
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The sweet sound of avoidance.
if one says NO to my question, it would make them a hypocrite.
if one says YES, it would make them a bad parent.
Congrats.
Being found not guilty is not the same as being innocent. He was a pedophile and I for one say Good Riddance!
Yup.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 12:43AM
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I I'm with Tirimisu on this. I didn't find out he was molesting kids because it was never proven. I never liked Jackson, or most of his music, but I admire and respect his talent and what he did with it.
So if your talented 46 year old next door neighbor was sleeping with your kids and wasn't found guilty of child molestation you would still admire him?. How FU is that?. My god people are you listening to yourselves?.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 12:45AM
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I made a statement concerning your question...what part of it did you not understand...hmmmm?
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jcarolina
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Jun 26 @ 12:46AM
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I know......everyone who thinks he's guilty of molestation get up a lynch mob and go kill him........
oh......he's already dead.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 12:52AM
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I think she realized how stupid her statement was.
She won't answer, believe me. She got nailed and doesn't want to talk about it now. She would let her kids sleep in bed with a stranger.
So if your talented 46 year old next door neighbor was sleeping with your kids and wasn't found guilty of child molestation you would still admire him?. How FU is that?. My god people are you listening to yourselves?.
They have the "it's not my kid" mentality. As long as their kids aren't the ones being hurt, they don't care.
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Snappygoddess
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Jun 26 @ 12:52AM
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All I said was that you had no proof that he did molest children. I never said I liked him or condoned some of the things he did. I just asked.. where was your proof that he did molest children??
That makes me screwed up because I don't automatically believe everything the news media (or you) says he did? I think that makes me smart.. not to believe what the media says as gospel truth.
Either way.. I am done commenting on this.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 12:56AM
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I made a statement concerning your question...what part of it did you not understand...hmmmm
All of it. This man by evidence and admittance slept with children. If you don't find that disgusting but would rather choose to idolize the man your just as screwed up as him. How many people who love children sleep with them in their bed other then a pedophile?.
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jcarolina
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Jun 26 @ 12:58AM
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One thing.....Supreme.....no, I wouldn't let kids sleep with anyone. Over at friends I've had for 20+ years.. sure... family absolutely......someone just because they're famous? Never. Not even Billy Graham, and I'm Christian.
Where do you get from me saying I admire his talent that I'd let kids sleep with him? Where are you from?
From what I've read of your blogs, someone might need to dial 911 if I even saw you talking to children.
Of course.....you're just trying to antagonize people anyway. I doubt you'd have a word to say in public.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 1:04AM
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Where do you get from me saying I admire his talent that I'd let kids sleep with him? Where are you from?
I see you you can admire the man for his talent. Would you admire an engineer or brain surgeon in the same manner?.
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 1:05AM
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So was O.J. Simpson. Would you marry him?. Because your found not guilty doesn't mean you didn't do the crime
everyone who was ever found "not guilty" ,.,will always have the cloud hanging over them of,."wonder if he did it?",.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 1:06AM
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All I said was that you had no proof that he did molest children
Oh I see, you wouldn't let your kids sleep in bed with him but your asking me for proof. My proof is that all of you are smart enough to not let " your " kids sleep with him but hypocritical enough to idolize the man.
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:06AM
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Being found not guilty is not the same as being innocent.
So much for justice in your country then. Where should his "innocence" be determined, in the press?, by people after his money £as others have pointed out here by) or on MD?
What is the difference between "guilt" and "innocence"? The insane on here would argue, "we knew he did it we just cant prove it". So how do you know he did it?
You don't.
As for whether or not parents should allow their children to sleep with a grown man. Isn't that a question you should be directing at the parents, who first allowed it and then conveniently complained later? But then again that doesn't fit your twisted arguments does it?
There was I thinking the law said "innocent until proven guilty". Seems like some of you, neither understand your own laws or constitution.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 1:08AM
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'scuse me...looking to see where I said I idolized this man... I believe I said I was NOT a fan...
Anyway...working for law enforcement, I have seen more pedophiles than I care to even think about...and they disgust me....but in this case, I have looked at, and listened to most everything...and I stand by my own opinion...
Carry on...I am through... 
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 1:11AM
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I do understand the Constitution and the way the law is written. He had to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. There was reasonable doubt. That does not make him innocent.
I was just watching an interview with 2 of the jurors in his case. Both of them said they knew he was guilty BUT they had to follow the letter of the law. They were given certain criteria and charges to consider. He was found not guilty of the charges before them.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 1:12AM
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innocent until proven guilty
A person who sleeps with children isn't interested in innocent until proven guiltty. If they were they wouldn't be sleeping with children. We don't allow children to sleep with adults why?.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 1:12AM
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This is truly priceless. Supreme, maybe they don't hear themselves.
Wonder what her kids would say.
They would probably be forced to keep it hush hush by mommy dearest. 
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:12AM
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This man by evidence and admittance slept with children
First of all I dont idolise MJ but I do admire his talent. The English language is far more spohisticated, than the damage you frequently render it.
So the "evidemce" is (another one of your "facts") that he slept with children? Did MJ deny it? No. Did the parents of the kids object? No Did he interfere with the children in any way?No
So deluded one, what crime or heinous or disgusting act did he actually (rather than one dreamed up by you) did he actually perform? None
What part of none don't you understand?
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:14AM
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We don't allow children to sleep with adults why?.
What Law are you referring to?
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 1:14AM
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Michael Jackson had the same rights as you,..,innocent until proven guilty ,.it was not proven,.,.and Michael was also a republican,..,i'm shocked you would attack "one of your own"................. 
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 1:14AM
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I believe I said I was NOT a fan
Yeah right.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 1:14AM
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It reminds me of a talk i had about surveillance cameras.
People feel basically safe with them around, let's say a parking lot.
Those cameras don't stop someone from grabbing you and killing you.
They are there for AFTER you're dead and gone.... what good are they really? You're dead.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 1:19AM
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Michael Jackson had the same rights as you,..,innocent until proven guilty ,.it was not proven,.,.and Michael was also a republican,..,i'm shocked you would attack "one of your own".................
So what your saying is that the act of sleeping with children is not enough to prove molestation. We as the public should or find nothing wrong with idolizing a man that sleeps with children?
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 1:22AM
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Oh for crying out loud, SB...give it up...you will have nightmares...
Quit while you and whats-her-face are behind.....
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 1:23AM
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So what your saying is that the act of sleeping with children is not enough to prove molestation. We as the public should or find nothing wrong with idolizing a man that sleeps with children?
*did you ever sleep with YOUR children?*
and i did NOT fvking say that i idolized anyone,.that's your gig,.,
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imlost2
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Jun 26 @ 1:24AM
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Growing up with a family of ten and brothers who ran cub and boy scouts, and a mother who ran girl scouts, we always seems to have a house full with ppl sleeping everywhere. Now I can't tell you the times I've climbed over bodies on the floor or rooms full of kids. Why does everyone think something dirty has to go on. Can any man here be a scout leader and let some kids stay over and share a king sized bed without anything going on cuz ya ran out of room? Sure ya could, if ya can't there is something wrong with you. And if you feel guilty there is something even more wrong with you. There might have been four in the beds, four more on the floors a few on the sofa's and maybe one even in the tub, cuz it rained hard and the tents got all wet. So it's very possible Michael just had kids over and he was just like that and like others said was found not guilty. It's funny when my daughters have their friends over nothing is said if they bunk up with their older sisters, now why is there a double standard? These ppl that stayed at Michaels knew him very well, they weren't just kids off the street either, it makes a difference it's not like they were just anyone. Lost
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:25AM
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So what your saying is that the act of sleeping with children is not enough to prove molestation
That is a correct interpretation of your law. So why are you struggling to understand it? You don't like it? Too liberal for you? Or you don't like the fact its there to protect the innocent?
Now stop ducking and diving
What LAW did he break?.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 1:26AM
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Ok Supreme. The old lady is getting angry because we called out her bad parenting. Leave her alone now. We don't want her to have a stroke. Her great great great grandchildren would be devastated.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 1:27AM
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YEAH! What He ^^^^^^^ said!!! 
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 1:27AM
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YEAH! What He ^^^^^^^ said!!!
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 1:29AM
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right wing republican extremist.,,.you just made a big fvking mistake
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:30AM
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There is a deathly silence in Mianus
Shall I type the words for you ChickenSupreme?
He didn't break any law or molest anyone.Its all in my scrwed up head.
Confession is good for the soul. Ask the Lord he will tell you.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 1:31AM
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right wing republican extremist.,,.you just made a big fvking mistake
Does it involve torches and pitchforks?
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:32AM
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The old lady is getting angry because we called out her bad parenting. Leave her alone now. We don't want her to have a stroke. Her great great great grandchildren would be devastated.
What a nasty, ugly, bitter and contorted individual you are. I can just imagine, what the product, of the union of the two of you, would be.
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 1:33AM
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Can any man here be a scout leader and let some kids stay over and share a king sized bed without anything going on cuz ya ran out of room? Sure ya could, if ya can't there is something wrong with you. And if you feel guilty there is something even more wrong with you.
Are you serious? A Scout leader would not could not sleep in same bed/tent as a scout. And because we think there is something wrong with that, that makes us dirty or something wrong with us? How about something wrong with said Scout leader?
Child molesters ingratiate themselves into jobs, careers, hobbies, volunteer work that give them easy access to children. Why make it easier for them? To allow them access to your child at their most vulnerable when they are asleep?
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 1:34AM
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Does it involve torches and pitchforks?
been there before have you,.,.,.i think so.,,.,.you blew everything she said completely out of proportion,.for what reason,.,.
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:35AM
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Does it involve torches and pitchforks?
In your case, it would be silly white robes with pointy heads and burning crosses.
So once again.
What LAW did he break?
Or don't you rabid reactionaries believe in the rule of law?
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 1:36AM
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ranger,.,.,.answer my question.,,.did you ever sleep with your children?,.
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starflower10
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Jun 26 @ 1:36AM
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Like I said we sit here judging MJ. but who are we to judge. He will receive the judgement he deserves and only God and MJ know the truth ,so be it.
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:38AM
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Sherrybaby
Once again.What is your proof that MJ molested anyone? Forget putting kids in risky situations for the moment.
What is your proof? Not your innuendo or gut feel but what is the proof? In law you need proof. Would you like to be jailed or condemned because of a hunch?
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:41AM
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Only God and MJ know the truth ,so be it.
Nothing to do with god. 12 of his fellow Americans judged him innocent of any crime.
Thats what your constitution provides for.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 1:44AM
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In your case, it would be silly white robes with pointy heads and burning crosses. Probably.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 1:45AM
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This has been SOOO much fun!  But must sleep.....and I know I will sleep well.... 
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 1:45AM
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He had 2 different children 10 years apart accuse him of molesting him. The first case the parents in a civil suit that was settled out of court. In the second case that actually went to trail, the 13 year old young man was able to describe MJ's penis that has some kind of identifying mark. What that is, I do not know. A birthmark, a mole? The young man was correct in his identification. Why would he know this? Why would he have seen MJ naked and so up close that he could identify that?
And for the most, children do not lie about being molested.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 1:48AM
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Sherry, it's no use dear.
They liked how he danced and sang,that makes him innocent in their minds.
This has been SOOO much fun! But must sleep.....and I know I will sleep well....
Get your beauty sleep. 
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:52AM
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Sherrybaby
You said for the most part.Thats a big hole in the argument.
Can't you see that money might be an incentive for parents to encourage their children to either lie or at least misunderstand what was going on?
MJ was eccentric without doubt but don't you think it only right, he was tried and acquited on cold hard evidence, rather than conjecture, vitriol and bile?
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starflower10
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Jun 26 @ 1:52AM
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It has everythign to do with God. We sit here and bicker about if he slept with children or not. Dose it really matter what we think? God is the one who gets the say at the end of ones life. If you do not believe that then i am sorry for you.
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Tiramisu4u
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Jun 26 @ 1:52AM
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You are incorrect! The childs testimony was thrown out after they examined Michael and found out the description did NOT match! That was one of the deciding factors in his aqquittal! 
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 1:54AM
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Get your beauty sleep.
i look at her pics and then yours,,.maybe YOU should get a little shuteye.,instead of chasing pigs around a coral all night long
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 1:56AM
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It has everythign to do with God. We sit here and bicker about if he slept with children or not. Dose it really matter what we think? God is the one who gets the say at the end of ones life. If you do not believe that then i am sorry for you. True. It really makes no difference.
i look at her pics and then yours,,.maybe YOU should get a little shuteye.,instead of chasing pigs around a coral all night long I haven't been chasing you anywhere. Stop spreading rumors.
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 1:57AM
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They liked how he danced and sang,that makes him innocent in their minds
Irrelevant as you know it is.
This is a question of LAW. A law and a constitution you appear to have no respect for.
Do you still call yourself a patriot?
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 1:59AM
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You are incorrect! The childs testimony was thrown out after they examined Michael and found out the description did NOT match! That was one of the deciding factors in his aqquittal!
I think you are wrong and why are you clapping? I have not called anyone here a name nor do I find the talk of a pedophile anything to clap about.
AS far as kids not lying for the most part, that is my opinion and mine only. I did not mean that be a deciding factor in his guilt.
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 2:01AM
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I haven't been chasing you anywhere. Stop spreading rumors.
thank you,.,.
you have been adversarial toward almost everyone ever since you got here,.you must be at least 18 years of age to be on this site.,i dont think you are
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 2:01AM
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It has everythign to do with God. We sit here and bicker about if he slept with children or not. Dose it really matter what we think? God is the one who gets the say at the end of ones life. If you do not believe that then i am sorry for you.
True. It really makes no difference.
So that is about to save the US Government billions. Let god judge. Meanwhile scrap the constitution and all law. As god is the judge and jury.
This gets more and more bizarre. What it tells me is that the rabid right have no belief in either the law or the constitution. UnAmerican.anti patriots.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 2:02AM
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Dish it out but can't take it?
Goodnight everyone
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 2:07AM
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MJ was eccentric without doubt but don't you think it only right, he was tried and acquited on cold hard evidence, rather than conjecture, vitriol and bile?
Unfortunately in molestation cases, it can be a case of he said/she said/they said. There may not be any cold hard evidence. I think that is one reason he was acquitted. He was found not guilty. Again there is a difference between not guilty and being innocent. .
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 2:07AM
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Sheerybaby
Thats exactly right. Its all about what YOU think not about the truth or evidence.
Quite honestly I wouldn't want to be tried on what you think or anyone else for that matter.
God is watching you too you know! You may end up stoking fires, if you continue to condemn people for something that they haven't done.
How would you feel if I made false accusations against you? I think rightly, that I was being grossly unfair. So why not "do unto others, as you would have done on to you"?
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 2:08AM
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Dish it out but can't take it?
Goodnight everyone
you attacked her with no provocation,.twisted her words and attacked.,
go away and come back when you grow up
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 26 @ 2:09AM
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Muppet,
You know you're upset because i ignored you trying to hit on me.
No means no.
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ANGRY_MUPPET
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Jun 26 @ 2:15AM
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Muppet,
You know you're upset because i ignored you trying to hit on me.
No means no.
again you are barking up the wrong tree,.nice try,.,.but throwing *yourself* in the mix wont work,.belligerent arrogance is not a turn on for me,.
you picked on the wrong woman tonight,.,.you want to continue this?,.,.if not,.,.apoligize to her here for misquoting her ,.your choice
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 2:15AM
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Again there is a difference between not guilty and being innocent.
Then I am afraid, sadly you do not understand the law and your ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You want to retry him based on what you've read or heard elsewhere and also what you assume MUST have happened. Thats a step away, from a lynch mob mentality.
Here is a defintion of the word innocent
a Not guilty of a specific crime or offense; legally blameless: was innocent of all charges.
b. Within, allowed by, or sanctioned by the law; lawful.
and guilt.. .
Thats a dictionary defintion. Feel free to ignore this evidence as well. I think what you probably mean, is that in your eyes, despite the fact he was found not guilty, you will always believe he was guilty..
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 2:19AM
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Thats exactly right. Its all about what YOU think not about the truth or evidence.
Quite honestly I wouldn't want to be tried on what you think or anyone else for that matter.
God is watching you too you know! You may end up stoking fires, if you continue to condemn people for something that they haven't done.
How would you feel if I made false accusations against you? I think rightly, that I was being grossly unfair. So why not "do unto others, as you would have done on to you"?
I did not say it was all about what I said or thought. Now who is twisting words? The only thing I said was my opinion and that was about children lying about being molested. Do you really think that children lie about such a horrible life threatening and changing event?
As far as god watching? I don't believe in god ( please do not start a new topic about this) and am not concerned about going to hell. And if there is a hell, there will be a special place for pedophiles!
I have not made false accusations against anyone. I believe the accusations made by at least 2 children.
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 2:19AM
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Interesting how quickly ChickenSupreme lost radio contact when confronted by facts
Are you receiving me?
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 2:24AM
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We have had the lies, the half truths.Now the genius.
Thriller
R.I.P Michael Jackson. They too will be judged!
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 2:26AM
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Once again just because I do not agree with you does not mean I do not understand the law or the Constitution.
I do not want to retry him ( pointless in this case due to his death). Double jeopardy is attached. No I do not believe he is innocent. I never will. I can live with that. I do not need you to show me a dictionary defining anything. I know the definition and I also know the legal definition according to US laws.
You think he is innocent because he was found not guilty. Many people get off on technicalities. That makes them no more innocent than MJ. That makes them Lucky.
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 2:48AM
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You think he is innocent because he was found not guilty. Many people get off on technicalities. That makes them no more innocent than MJ. That makes them Lucky.
Believe what you want to believe. Here's hoping you never get accused of a crime you never committed. Of course there are techiclaities but he was not cleared on a technicality. Still that didn't stop you using the "argument".
He was cleared on the evidence but you are not prepared to believe that. So what is the point in argiung the facts.
Anyway, his death gives you the pyrrhic victory you were seeking. Now enjoy dancing on his grave. Does that make you feel better?
I have nothing more to add to this because all we will be debating is what is in your head. Pointless, particularly as you now have your "corpse". Good work!
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chevymn
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Jun 26 @ 2:56AM
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I think that until you have listened to your own child tell you in detail how some man touched them, fondled them, or maybe even f@!ked them. You just need to shut the hell up. Our judicial system is a joke. A guy I used to work with got busted with videos of him molesting his neice. Three months later he works at Walmart. Micheal? Great performer, dancer and singer. Icon? yes. Child molester? Ask the kids. If not, why all the payoffs? Haven't heard anyone mention those?
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ragtopcookie
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Jun 26 @ 3:25AM
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Wow.......miss a nite at matchdoctor...miss alot......after reading all the comments.....i agree that youve all been suckered into a debate here that nobody will ever win.....while i agree with both sides of it......theres no way in hell im ever gonna get involved with it.....the man is gone now and i think whatever happened wont be happening ever again.....one would think that would be enough to end this debate.....thats just my two cents worth anyway......cookie
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 3:39AM
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chevymn
You are missing the point completely.This is not about paedophiles but about one man and his death.
What happened to respect for the law in your country? This blog is a disgrace.
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mkcsks
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Jun 26 @ 3:59AM
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Oh well, guess he won’t be sleeping with any children anymore.
A perfect example of your stupidity. Dead people don't sleep with anybody. Too bad you think you're GOD and know everything.
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kitkat316
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Jun 26 @ 4:00AM
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God forgives sinners....why should people won't?,,,let MJ, REST IN PEACE!!!
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Bionic_Angel
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Jun 26 @ 4:21AM
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You and RWR belong together ... when's the wedding?
Why anyone listens to a word you say I'll never know ... anyone who calls themselves Supremebeing has got to be a complete arse. As long as you live you'll never know everything ... and clearly you know nothing of any value except your own personal bigotted view on life. What an unhappy individual you must be. I feel more sorry for you than I do MJ's family right now. No one knows a thing about another human being because they're not them. I won't be reading any more of your blogs ... I've only read one before and that was enough to tell me you're just a trouble maker who likes stirring it up. Can't think why I came back for more. I won't be tempted again.
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Herodotus
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Jun 26 @ 7:01AM
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Here;s another of MJ's greatest
Beat it
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1RockinDude
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Jun 26 @ 7:23AM
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I wasnt in the court of law..to hear the evidence. I never cared for his music. But unless you know the man on a personal level. Instead of reading the magazine's or watching crude TV shows..it was all about ratings. Was he guilty of the crimes?
Who knows ? Did money exchanged hands..yes
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edthepoet
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Jun 26 @ 8:17AM
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Now, the Author of this blog is just upset that MJ stop letting him jump on his tigger after he ate the last pint of his ice cream,lol
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Fayvorite
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Jun 26 @ 8:22AM
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By the time I read everything I am too drained to respond....but I can't help but think: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
And I'm not religious so I don't know why that popped into thought.
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NADIAROX
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Jun 26 @ 8:26AM
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LET GOD BE THE JUDGE
“Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them.”
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Wing_Zero_75
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Jun 26 @ 8:57AM
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I wasnt going to comment on this, but I changed my mind after reading the comments.
I honestly dont think he did anything sexual to the kids. I believe it was parents trying to blackmail him for money.
1, Why werent the charges brought forward when the parents supposedly found out? I think the parents saw this him as an easy target. Blackmail him and try to get as much money out of him as possible. I think if he was guilty then he would have paid some of the money to these parents. When he refused, THATS when the criminal charges were pressed. If I was a parent and he did that to a child of mine...............he wouldnt have made it 50 no matter how famous he was. How many kids had gone there and slept in the same bed as he did and nothing was ever said or done until someone tried to blackmail him? Why would anyone admit they slept in the same bed as the kids if they were hiding somehing like that?
2, I will admit he was a bit off. In my oppinion, all he was, was a child in a mans body. I think being pushed by his father into the spotlight at an early age stopped his mental developement. How many people do you know would build his version of disney land at his house?
I guess in closing, I wasnt there. Some people want to see the best in him because of his music, others want to see him as a weirdo freak. I saw him as a child who didnt really know where he fit in in life. and for the record, im not a fan of his music. Before anyone throws latoya out there, she was a jealous no talent bitch who wanted to ride his fame. There are too many questions and not enough answers for anyone to say whether he did it or not, just oppinions. I am the last person to stick up for a child molester. They should be used in harsh chemical lab experiments. Try putting makeup or shampoo in their eyes rather than some poor rabbit, then inject them with bleach when they are of no more use.
Larry
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imlost2
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Jun 26 @ 9:20AM
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Sherry, Scout leaders sleep in tents all the time with their kids, ROTC leaders sleep in tents, some small with their kids. Some are not any bigger than a king sized bed, what's the difference you tell me. I say get your minds out of the gutter. If you can't sleep in small quarters with kids, yes there is something wrong with You. I as an adult can sleep in small quarters with girls, I take my girls that I teach all the time on trips when we go to horse shows and share hotel rooms because of the economy and there is nothing going on. I don't see why boys can't do the same danged thing without ppl thinking bad of them. Geeeeez Lost
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 10:19AM
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He was cleared on the evidence but you are not prepared to believe that. So what is the point in argiung the facts.
So was OJ Simpson. Face it, if your a celebrity being tried in California by jury the amount of evidence you need to convict the celebrity would be an outright admission of the crime.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 10:44AM
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Scout leaders sleep in tents all the time with their kids
So Michael Jackson was a Scout leader or should have been?. Michael Jackson was out on a wilderness trail teaching children about the great outdoors?. I hardly see the correlation unless that is you want to. Going out into the wilderness with other adults and children is hardly the same as locking yourself in a room with children.
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IamTrinity
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Jun 26 @ 11:58AM
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Sherry, Scout leaders sleep in tents all the time with their kids, ROTC leaders sleep in tents, some small with their kids. Some are not any bigger than a king sized bed, what's the difference you tell me.
I think you just showed yourself the difference Lost. A cramped tent makes closness a necessity, but MJ had a mansion with many bedrooms.
I'm not going to judge him because I don't know what the hell he was and I don't think he ever knew what he was either. We do know that he was a "cracker" wannabe so certainly not proud of his own race.
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Fender
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Jun 26 @ 12:22PM
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Well, well...Well.
I read every comment on this blog and the blog itself.
...Sure, at one time Michael Jackson was an American Music Icon...At another time he was tried for being a pedophile...
Are most of you so naive that you believe he is innocent? With enough money freedom can be bought...So can families.
...If I had a child would I let them sleep in a bed with a adult? No. No matter what the situation. We aren't talking about someone who took children on camping trips. We are talking about a sick man who was rich beyond belief, yet hung around with minor's. Even though he had a huge mansion, said minor's slept in his bed. WTF?
Even in death an atrocity such as this cannot be overlooked.
...I believe he was guilty. I believe families were bought. Once...I could of said, false accusations...Twice...Truth, plain and simple...
How many people would be devastated if someone who molested a child in their family suddenly died? Not to fvcking many that's who!
JMHO-Fender.
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Sherrybaby412
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Jun 26 @ 12:42PM
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I was not going to make anymore comments about this blog but....
Sherry, Scout leaders sleep in tents all the time with their kids, ROTC leaders sleep in tents, some small with their kids. Some are not any bigger than a king sized bed, what's the difference you tell me. I say get your minds out of the gutter.
You say my mind is in the gutter? Excuse me but where is your common sense? You would allow a nonrelative to share your child's bed? That is crazy to put it simply.
Our main job as a parent is to protect our kids. Allowing them to be alone with another adult especially one we do not know is not doing our jobs.
Also Scout rules PROHIBIT a nonrelative from sharing a bed or tent with a child. It is only allowed IF a relative is in the same bed/tent.
# Sleeping arrangements: BSA rules state that Scouts may sleep in the same quarters as adults only if they are family members. Scouts may tent with Scouts; adults may tent with other adults; Scouts may tent with other unrelated adults only if a related adult is present.
Also as was stated , he wasn't a scout leader, just a man who liked to share his bed with a child. His own words.
If he wasn't doing something wrong, why not stop once the first allegations were made? Why not have kids sleep over but in separate rooms with their parents nearby?
He didn't stop because he ENJOYED it. He didn't think he was doing anything wrong.
Just like every other pedophile out there. Uncle George, Mr. Smith the PE teacher, Wally from the garage, Sam the Sunday school teacher. All of them that walk among us everyday.
YOu try to kid yourself he wasn't a pedophile.
This is my last post on this subject.
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edthepoet
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Jun 26 @ 1:25PM
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Do I believe MJ did cross the line with kids, Yes, but the parent sold their son ass, both are guilty in my mind.
Nonetheless, there's no actually proof and he's dead.
Maybe that was karma he deserved.
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CHARLIgurl1
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Jun 26 @ 1:30PM
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Looking at the situation with Micheal Jackson from an unbias either way stance, theres a few factors in this.
Parents had to give permission for thier children to stay with him at the mansion. Even after the first aligation, parents were still allowing thier children to go and stay. Hundreds of children passed through there at some point or other, so why was its just 2 out of all these children that so say had this happen to? Surely there would have been far more as paedophiles cannt help themselves, so if he was one, there would surely have been far more.
The first aligation was settled with a financial settlement, this in itself says something about the parents. How many would settle for just money if they truly thought thier child had been violated? Personally I would have refused the money and fought on to get a conviction. Instead they were happy for a cash sum.
Micheal has been described as a man who because his childhood was robbed, tried to relive it in adult years with sleep overs, sleeping with the children as he would have done as a child. This does not excuse it however, as he should have had forethought that someone would see ill of it.
The only evidence that people have that he did anything is statements from those seeking compensation, (money). The last one, the mother was discovered to have gotten money from other celebrities in the past, so she was not foreign to knowing ways of obtaining money.
There were so many flaws in the case, the child and sister who was also there gave conflicting statements, who was wearing what and where, almost as if they had been told what to say, but couldn't pull it off when the cross examination went in to more detail.
Finally, I think that it will never be proved either way, but as there is doubt on both sides, I will refrain from deciding guilty or not guilty due to lack of hard evidence.
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lisa46
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Jun 26 @ 2:26PM
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The chapter of John
" If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." then you can say your better than him. Until then why can't we show respect??
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 26 @ 6:53PM
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Micheal has been described as a man who because his childhood was robbed, tried to relive it in adult years with sleep overs, sleeping with the children as he would have done as a child. This does not excuse it however, as he should have had forethought that someone would see ill of it.
There has been hundreds of child stars. How many have resulted to sleeping with children until 46 years old in attempt to reinvent their childhood?.
Surely there would have been far more as paedophiles cannt help themselves, so if he was one, there would surely have been far more.
Yeah, that's what the Catholic Chruch thought also.
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RightWingRepublican
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Jun 28 @ 12:29AM
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There has been hundreds of child stars. How many have resulted to sleeping with children until 46 years old in attempt to reinvent their childhood?.
Hmmmm None
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kjac
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Jun 28 @ 1:56AM
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I was curious. Does this give me the right to finally piss on Jerry Falwell's grave? While Michael Jackson was able to maintain doubt about his guilt through a broken court system, (See Donte Stallworth) there's no doubt at all Falwell blamed terrorism on the innocent. He even admitted to that himself before the world became a better place with his death.
If I were a believer in mythology, I'd say Mikey and Jerry are sitting together somewhere in a very uncomfortable place. But since I don't buy into that, they are both rotting in wormy earth. With no consciousness to care what we think of them.
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ragtopcookie
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Jun 28 @ 2:39AM
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And now jessie jackson is involved in this.....what a circus this has become....now we get to see so called family members fight over whatever is left of the guys fortune and who gets to control everything.....let greed take its place at the table now......its just shameless......cookie
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 28 @ 10:23AM
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Mitch Albom, Detroit News and Free Press
In fact, it's hard to think of a celebrity who had less to do with the real world than Jackson. In the real world, you don't have pet llamas or roller coasters in your backyard. In the real world, if you're $400 million in debt, people aren't still lending you money. In the real world, you don't buy human bones, wear lipstick as a man or sleep with other people's children in your bedroom.
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marylou
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Jun 28 @ 11:50AM
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I agree with Tiramisu4u's comments about Michael Jackson. I really believe he was innocent.......and loved children. Maybe seemed a strange way at times.....re turning his estate into like a fairyland for them.....but then they say he was eccentric in nature.
The stranges people at times can be the most caring........and the most so called *normal* people can be the child molesters....re Priests....Ministers and all sorts.
The kindest ones......seem to get accused.........yet the guilty ones can hide behind any profession and seemingly get away with it.
It is for God to judge the human soul. And like many have already said....*he was found Innocent*.
OJ simpson was different....there is no comparing the two.
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Supremebeing412
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Jun 28 @ 4:01PM
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The stranges people at times can be the most caring........and the most so called *normal* people can be the child molesters....re Priests....Ministers and all sorts.
The kindest ones......seem to get accused.........yet the guilty ones can hide behind any profession and seemingly get away with it.
It is for God to judge the human soul. And like many have already said....*he was found Innocent*.
OJ simpson was different....there is no comparing the two
I think your having some diffculty seperating Michael Jackson the star and Michael Jackson the person. An innocent person doesn't pay off a false allegation with an estimated $15 million dollars. This 46 year-old drug addicted man locked children and himself up in his bedroom.
O.J. Simpson was found innocent even though the preponderance of evidence showed him to be guilty. The cases are very similar in that to convict a celebrity in California absent a video taped confession is damn near impossible. In both cases the average person would be behind bars for the rest of their natural life.
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kjac
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Jul 6 @ 7:13PM
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I agree. We've reached a point in this country where quitters and child molesters are praised as heroes. Truly pathetic.
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CHARLIgurl1
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Jul 6 @ 7:42PM
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An innocent person doesn't pay off a false allegation
And ther same can be said for the parent.
No inncoent parent of a victim would just accept cash, no matter how much it was.
If it were a real molestation, thier lawyers could have proved it.. taken it all the way.. had a conviction AND a settlement.
But they just accepted cash..
This smells of money seeking BS
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chubs
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Jul 7 @ 8:53AM
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I raised 3 chillens and me and their mother loved having them sleep with us, did that make us pervs?
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DiamondRain
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Jul 22 @ 2:15AM
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Duh...
Did you ever sleep with your friend's children? How about your customer's children?
Well Michael Jackson did.
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dirtygirlwithnomoney
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Jul 23 @ 6:10PM
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Okay, so maybe Michael did let kids sleep in his bed, but from all accounts that I've read/heard Michael was different from most ppl. He was a lot like a child himself. I let the cat sleep in my bed but that doesn't mean I'm molesting it.
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Supremebeing412
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Jul 28 @ 9:51AM
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Okay, so maybe Michael did let kids sleep in his bed, but from all accounts that I've read/heard Michael was different from most ppl. He was a lot like a child himself. I let the cat sleep in my bed but that doesn't mean I'm molesting it.
Would you let your kids sleep with him?. I see, it's OK for a 46 year-old man to sleep with children as long as they're not yours.
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