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The favorite word of the liberal. If you don’t see things their way you’re an uncompassionate bigot religious monster. Apparently most of America is filled with such. Not an advocate for gay marriage, bigot. Not an advocate for interracial marriage, bigot. Why does the mass have the opinions and feelings they do towards the unnatural?. The liberals would have you believe that it’s rooted in religion.

People generally accept what they see in nature and reject all other. Some things we do consciously and some unconsciously. Why does the mass view gay life style and marriage as they do?, because they see no corresponding reference, support or act in nature. In fact nature has no use for gay people does it. If gay’s were left up to the wrath of mother nature they wouldn’t exist because one thing good old mother nature does quite well is destroy that in which is not needed. Now I’m strictly talking about nature and “ not “ insinuating in any way that humans and religious zealots should result to the same tactics.

Why does the mass frown on race, interracial relationships and so on. Again, because they see no corresponding reference, support or act in nature. Each specie mates within it’s own specie or “ kind “ for you biblical readers. In their natural environment do black bears mate with brown bears?, do gray squirrels mate with red squirrels, no. Why?, what happens on a genetic level?. You look for information on the internet regarding interracial offspring and everything is bloody fantastic. The offspring of interracial couples are prettier, more handsome and healthier. You really believe that?, they got studies to prove it. Funny, Stanford University came to a more logical conclusion, the increase of disease.

We have clouded the truth with so much liberal bullshit that we follow and legislate the complete opposite of nature on not only a biological level but on a common sense level as well. Your not a bigot you are mirroring the most exact truth and direction there is, nature. Nature is designed this way for a reason, to ensure it’s survival. If mother nature could weigh in on these topics the liberals would call nature a freaken bigot.

Gay marriage in itself, why not. I agree in part but let’s look at the larger picture in the legal arena and the plethora of legal arguments to follow concerning private business rights, religious, parental and so on. How do these rights infringe on the rights of the mass. Should the owner of a business have the right to deny employment, service or access if it finds that such person(s) are not in the best interest of the company. That allowing such person(s) is potentially harmful to it business activity. Will a religious organization one day be legislated against it’s doctrine. Who will be considered “ natural parents “ in the future?. Your wife or husband turns gay , divorces and enters into a gay marriage. What are your rights as the heterosexual parent(s) going to be?.

In closing,

What of the unnatural world ever survives?. What has gone against the laws of nature and lived to tell about it?, nothing. Every invention, cure, treatment and rights are found in nature. When we as society play god/creator what happens?, we bring about our own demise. Look at America today, the unnatural legislating laws against the natural. Much of our problems on every level exist for one reason only, we are acting outside the laws of nature. We want to believe in things that are extraneous to the truth and reality of nature. If you’re a religious person, because God placed you as ruler over nature doesn’t imply that you are not subject to the rules, laws and reality of.
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Comments:
Josuha

Jul 29 @ 12:09AM  
Why does the mass frown on race, interracial relationships and so on. Again, because they see no corresponding reference, support or act in nature. Each specie mates within it’s own specie or “ kind “ for you biblical readers.

I'm not sure if I'm following your 'logic'..

The Bible relates marriages of different races.

For example, one of Solomon's wives was from Cush, now present day Ethiopia.
Unless they had a surgence of blonds there, she was black.

The 'prohibition' of mixing 'nations', for example Cannaite women with Hebrew men was from their practice of pagan worship, which was forbidden, not because of 'race'.

I think your mixing apples and oranges in regard to moral beliefs of a people and the Bible in general.

SweetNapaGuy

Jul 29 @ 12:40AM  
because they see no corresponding reference, support or act in nature.

Just because you haven't seen the evidence, doesn't mean it doesn't exist (citecite).

And interracial couples???

Wow... So every time there was a migration, some "unnatural act" was committed when they interbred with the locals. Instead, I guess, they should have just slaughtered the natives?
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 12:57AM  
I'm not sure if I'm following your 'logic'..

The Bible relates marriages of different races.

For example, one of Solomon's wives was from Cush, now present day Ethiopia.
Unless they had a surgence of blonds there, she was black.

The 'prohibition' of mixing 'nations', for example Cannaite women with Hebrew men was from their practice of pagan worship, which was forbidden, not because of 'race'.

I think your mixing apples and oranges in regard to moral beliefs of a people and the Bible in general

1:11-12, and God said let the earth put forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind wherein is the seed thereof upon the earth and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind whose seed was in itself.

Many parts of the bible have some scientific validity. How?, I have my own beliefs. What I do is take portions that I can prove to have scientific credibility in today's world in which the authors of would have no knowledge of, that is unless they were either more advanced then us or experienced some type of intervention. I can't prove on a scientific level that accounts of interracial relationships are actually true or encouraged. What I can prove is that the wording in many parts of biblical writings is outside the capacity of what could or should have been known of those of that time. As you know the bible has many authors some more credible then others. The author of Genesis debatable but not the capability. Whomever had advanced knowledge of genetics.








Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 1:11AM  
And interracial couples???

Wow... So every time there was a migration, some "unnatural act" was committed when they interbred with the locals. Instead, I guess, they should have just slaughtered the natives?

Your quite the simpleton aren't you. Can you give me a specie that migrates such as a whale that mates with a different specie of it's kind?. Does a killer whale mate with a humpback whale?
Josuha

Jul 29 @ 1:23AM  
The only reference to genetic manipulation is in Genesis.
"4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them.

Some translations say
"There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them."

There are some references in the Book of Enoch, in this case the 'sons of God' are called 'the Watchers'.
The Book of Enoch not considered Canon, although Yeshua (Jesus) mention Enoch in scripture and the letter of Jude.

The Book of Enoch and Genesis relate there was some kind of a 'hybred' created by the union between the 'fallen ones' (Or 'sons of God, Watchers')

In the Book of Enoch.
"And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells[40]: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. "

Some speculate that they also attempted genetic manipulation of animals,
"And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood."

Scripture indicates the human population was 'corrupted' genetcally, except for Noah and his generations.

"9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. "

So Noah and his line was the only line not corrupted genetically.

Thus the reason for the destruction of mankind except for Noah and his sons.

This is the only 'genetic manipulation' that I am aware of in regard to humans in scripture and writings accepted by some orthodox churches.

The prohibition of marrying 'humans' outside of the Hebrew nation was only from a standpoint of the pagan practices of the peoples in Canaan, not to race.




SweetNapaGuy

Jul 29 @ 1:24AM  
Ummmm...

There's only one species of humans. You ARE aware that blacks are the same as whites, with only a few superficial differences, right?

Right?

Please tell me you think that blacks aren't non-humans.
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 1:35AM  
The only reference to genetic manipulation is in Genesis.
"4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them.

Some translations say
"There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them."

There are some references in the Book of Enoch, in this case the 'sons of God' are called 'the Watchers'.
The Book of Enoch not considered Canon, although Yeshua (Jesus) mention Enoch in scripture and the letter of Jude.

The Book of Enoch and Genesis relate there was some kind of a 'hybred' created by the union between the 'fallen ones' (Or 'sons of God, Watchers')

In the Book of Enoch.
"And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells[40]: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. "

Some speculate that they also attempted genetic manipulation of animals,
"And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood."

Scripture indicates the human population was 'corrupted' genetcally, except for Noah and his generations.

"9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. "

So Noah and his line was the only line not corrupted genetically.

Thus the reason for the destruction of mankind except for Noah and his sons.

This is the only 'genetic manipulation' that I am aware of in regard to humans in scripture and writings accepted by some orthodox churches.

The prohibition of marrying 'humans' outside of the Hebrew nation was only from a standpoint of the pagan practices of the peoples in Canaan, not to race.


and your point as it relates to my last comment is what?. My point Josh in 1:11-12 is why would such a thought even cross the the mind of someone of that time?. " yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind whose seed was in itself ". They are very specific and to the point here. How and why?.

Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 1:41AM  
There's only one species of humans

Yeah, name another specie in which only one exist.
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 1:49AM  
I'm still waiting sweetnapa, Let me help you, there isn't. You have been taught what you have been taught for other purposes other then reality.
SweetNapaGuy

Jul 29 @ 1:50AM  
So you ARE saying that blacks aren't human?
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 1:57AM  
So you ARE saying that blacks aren't human?

Sure they are just as a brown bear is a bear and a black bear is a bear but brown bear and black bear don't mate do they. Why?. You seem to lack the courage to answer that Napa. Why is that?
Josuha

Jul 29 @ 2:05AM  
and your point as it relates to my last comment is what?. My point Josh in 1:11-12 is why would such a thought even cross the the mind of someone of that time?. " yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind whose seed was in itself ". They are very specific and to the point here. How and why?.

The scripture your referring is about 'plants and animals' as they were created and the 'laws of nature' set forth by it's Creator.

Again, if you read my synnops of the 'corruption' of mankind through genetic manipulation as recorded by the Book of Enoch and Genesis, the 'laws' of nature were broken and humanity corrupted genetically except for Noah and his 'generations'.

If your suggesting that there is a 'prohibition' in scripture of different 'races' of humans marrying, there is not.






SweetNapaGuy

Jul 29 @ 2:06AM  
Because brown bears are one species (ursus arctos) and black bears are another species (ursus americanus).

But whites and blacks are the same species, homo sapiens sapiens. No different from each other than canis lupis familiaris: a Great Dane is as much a dog as is a chihuahua. And someone with the phenotype attributed to African is as much a human as someone with the phenotype attributed to European.

Where do you draw the line? Do Italians look like Swedes? Should they be prohibited from "polluting the bloodline"? How about Saxons versus Prussian? Both of them are German... or are they?

How about German versus Jew?
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 2:26AM  
Because brown bears are one species (ursus arctos) and black bears are another species (ursus americanus).

But whites and blacks are the same species, homo sapiens sapiens. No different from each other than canis lupis familiaris: a Great Dane is as much a dog as is a chihuahua. And someone with the phenotype attributed to African is as much a human as someone with the phenotype attributed to European.

Where do you draw the line? Do Italians look like Swedes? Should they be prohibited from "polluting the bloodline"? How about Saxons versus Prussian? Both of them are German... or are they?

How about German versus Jew?

Well let me ask Napa why are black bears and brown bears considered different species but white humans and black humans are the same specie. You failed to answer a question Napa, name another specie that only one exist. Don't tell me your quick internet brilliance has failed you.
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 2:32AM  
The scripture your referring is about 'plants and animals'

Well according to liberals Josh were one of the same aren't we?. Isn't it a fact that much of their ideology relies on a god/creator while denying one exist?. That absent of a god/creator they would be subject to what?.
SweetNapaGuy

Jul 29 @ 2:35AM  
Well let me ask Napa why are black bears and brown bears considered different species but white humans and black humans are the same specie.

Because black bears and brown bears can't breed.

And black humans and white humans CAN breed. And their offspring are genetically viable.

And the reason why there's only one species in the homo genus is because we killed off all our competitors.
SweetNapaGuy

Jul 29 @ 2:39AM  
Just so we're clear, is your racism the harmless kind (i.e., you've got no clue about which you speak, you simply don't want to be in the same species as all those mudskins), or the harmful kind (i.e., you believe that minorities are sub-human and think that they should serve the true human race, the white race)?
Josuha

Jul 29 @ 2:42AM  
Well according to liberals Josh were one of the same aren't we?. Isn't it a fact that much of their ideology relies on a god/creator while denying one exist?. That absent of a god/creator they would be subject to what?.

That is in itself can be argued that 'evolution' could have created an 'inferior' type of human based on evolutionary preconceived ideas of 'adaptation'.

That is, for example, one 'race' is more 'adapt' to modern technology than another.
One is smarter than another.

Hitler used this very same evolutionary argument against 'inferior' races as opposed to the 'master race'.

So, taken to the extreme, yes, evolution can be aruged against other races and has been.

However, based on scripture, there was only one race, mankind.
There are no 'races'.

Mitochondrial DNA now suggests that we all have DNA passed down from one female.
This gives credence to the 'Eve' story.

Rather 'Eve' had the genetics and DNA for all races, is open for debate.

If we all have a common ancestor, then we are all 'related' on some level, so race is really a moot point.


Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 2:43AM  
Because black bears and brown bears can't breed.

And black humans and white humans CAN breed. And their offspring are genetically viable.

And the reason why there's only one species in the homo genus is because we killed off all our competitors.

They can't breed or wont' breed?. Killed off all our competitors Well at least you have a sense of humor.
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 2:47AM  
Just so we're clear, is your racism the harmless kind (i.e., you've got no clue about which you speak, you simply don't want to be in the same species as all those mudskins), or the harmful kind (i.e., you believe that minorities are sub-human and think that they should serve the true human race, the
white race)?

Here we go. Typical liberal that can't answer the questions so me and everybody else is a racist. Bla, bla, bla. Same old story.
SweetNapaGuy

Jul 29 @ 2:50AM  
I HAVE answered the question. You simply believe yourself to be smarter than the last 400 years of biologists and (more recently) geneticists.

Humans are humans. Period. End of story. To deny the humanness of people, simply because they don't look like you, is a dangerous and chilling belief.
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 3:05AM  
Josh,

That's a logical scientific argument in that DNA ( creation ) had a single source. You have to create something before it can exist but your also assuming things not in evidence. We are taught things today Josh that are not necessarily scientifically true for reasons outside the laws of nature.

Is equality among us possible?. Are we trying to change things by way of legislation because they can't be change via reality.


Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 3:13AM  
I HAVE answered the question. You simply believe yourself to be smarter than the last 400 years of biologists and (more recently) geneticists.

Humans are humans. Period. End of story. To deny the humanness of people, simply because they don't look like you, is a dangerous and chilling belief.

Again you failed to answer the question other then " we killed them off ".

" name another specie in which only one exist" . Can you answer that with something more intelligent then " we killed them off ".
cbond35

Jul 29 @ 8:56AM  
The Bible was written by men/humans.........Men/humans are flawed........Therefore the bible is flawed.....How many times has the Bible been re-translated and re-written? Imagine how much has gotten lost along the way.

Who knows, maybe we evolved, maybe aliens created us, maybe our beginnings crashed here on an meteorite, maybe there is a God, maybe he is an alien......And maybe we are just animals floating on a big ball of dirt in space.

Hey supremebeing, I take it you are an advocate for the "master race"?


ElmerFudd445

Jul 29 @ 9:37AM  
In their natural environment do black bears mate with brown bears?,

Better do a little research on this one!..
one.. Brown and Black bears are one in the same
Two.. they have found brown bear and polar bear mating and DNA..
three.. the have found Kodiak and brown bear mix in DNA
So they do cross bread.. as dogs do.. as cats do.. as humans do..

Great story tho... tell the to your male dog that will hump anything..
ElmerFudd445

Jul 29 @ 9:46AM  
Look at America today, the unnatural legislating laws against the natural. Much of our problems on every level exist for one reason only, we are acting outside the laws of nature. We want to believe in things that are extraneous to the truth and reality of nature. If you’re a religious person, because God placed you as ruler over nature doesn’t imply that you are not subject to the rules, laws and reality of.

Would make for a real boring world if we were all the same!.. Dang.. you'd have nothing to Blog about..

All this makes for an interesting planet don't you thing?

I will say you brought up some interesting points on legal and business views..
ElmerFudd445

Jul 29 @ 9:48AM  
damn I wish we could edit our blogs!!! too early in the morning to be writing.. still haven't finished my coffee..

Anyway.. we love you Supreme (not in the gay way).. you always can keep us thinking
observed50

Jul 29 @ 10:18AM  
Elmer> Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't want to present facts against fiction again. It just seems so...so...well...fruitless.

Other fiction...why is there only one species of humans? Like all living things, we live in relationship to other things by how we are similar and dissimilar. Similar....our line looks like this...

* Kingdom: Animalia
* Phylum: Chordata
* Subphylum: Vertebrata
* Class: Mammalia
* Subclass: Theria
* Infraclass: Eutheria
* Order: Primates
* Suborder: Anthropoidea
* Superfamily: Hominoidea
* Family: Hominidae
* Genus: Homo
* Species: sapiens

A robin looks like this...

* Kingdom: Animalia
* Phylum: Chordata
* Subphylum: Vertebrata
* Class: Aves
* Order: Passeriformes
* Family: Turdidae
* Genus: Turdus
* Species: migratorius

There were other Homo's...other than Liberace...in other words, other species. Home erectus, Homo habilis, Homo neanderthalensis and others. And yes...they were left in the dust of evolution, because they couldn't hack it. They were out-competed for a niche occupied by a bi-pedal animal with half a brain. i.e., we probably slaughtered em...because they were different.

I would hesitate to want to really say...a brain. More like half.

Horses...one species. Elephants...two species. Giraffes...long held that it was one species...may be up to 6...the number that had been assumed to be subspecies until recently. There are 5 remaining species of rhino.

Until the last ice age, two species at least of humans. Then...ol' neanderthalensis took one for the Gipper. More recent discoveries question the possibility of 2 or three other species surviving quite late as well.

But certain kinds of animals, at the top of their niche chain, do reduce species numbers to a dominant few species. Unclear why that happens when it does, but it does. Change in climate, change in predators or food supplies...many different reasons.

But being one species...doesn't have anything to do with phenotypes differences.

Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 4:49PM  
Better do a little research on this one!..
one.. Brown and Black bears are one in the same
Two.. they have found brown bear and polar bear mating and DNA..
three.. the have found Kodiak and brown bear mix in DNA
So they do cross bread.. as dogs do.. as cats do.. as humans do..

False. A brown bear is not a black bear. False, black bear do not mate in the wild with anything other then black bear. Same with Kodiak and so on.
Supremebeing412

Jul 29 @ 5:55PM  
So they do cross bread.. as dogs do.. as cats do.. as humans do..

The result of domestication. Animals in the "wild" mate with only their kind. Not one credible photo or evidence exist of a specie in the wild mating with another species not of it's kind.

ElmerFudd445

Jul 30 @ 6:35PM  
False. A brown bear is not a black bear. False, black bear do not mate in the wild with anything other then black bear. Same with Kodiak and so on.

Not true mr supreme... better go look at the research... these are recent discoveries.. in fact there has been a lot of news lately on the discovery of the Kodiak discovery and the brown bear and polar bear with the DNA evidence.. discovered in Northern Alaska..
ElmerFudd445

Jul 30 @ 6:41PM  
My bad... grizzly and polar bear..

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/bear-hybrid-photo.html
ElmerFudd445

Jul 30 @ 6:43PM  
discovered in Northern Alaska..

My bad again.. my television education got the best of me there.. It was Canada
Supremebeing412

Jul 30 @ 8:12PM  
these are recent discoveries.. in fact there has been a lot of news lately on the discovery of the Kodiak discovery and the brown bear and polar bear with the DNA evidence.. discovered in Northern Alaska

Yeah I know, hybrid out of captivity. Cross bred released in the wild. Could be Russian, Canadian, Norway or could be our nut cases. You don't know what these people are capable of do you?.
Supremebeing412

Aug 2 @ 8:56PM  
Hey supremebeing, I take it you are an advocate for the "master race"

Who said anything about a master race?. The blog is mostly intended to measure and show your trained responses. Where in the blog does it place whites above blacks or elude to master races?.

Look at this comment;

So you ARE saying that blacks aren't human?

Now, where in the blog or my comments do I suggest that blacks aren't human?.
RightWingRepublican

Aug 3 @ 9:42AM  
Now, where in the blog or my comments do I suggest that blacks aren't human?.

The same place where people won't answer a simple question.
sloriver

Aug 3 @ 10:08AM  
The favorite word of the liberal. If you don’t see things their way you’re an uncompassionate bigot religious monster. Apparently most of America is filled with such.

Bigot could be described in one word: intolerant. I absolutely hate labels because they allow bigots to catagorize people and thus discount them. I even hate the label bigot. I see that you're intolerant of gays, blacks, and any other catagory of people who aren't like you. This world is diverse. If you can't accept that then you're a dinosaur, unable to adapt, and on the verge of extinction.
kjac

Oct 8 @ 3:53AM  
A quick question to see if you are a straight shooter or a coward of words.

A simple yes or no, do you believe people of seperate races should be allowed to marry?
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