All that the right wing-nuts on this site and elsewhere have in common are the same talking points .
In essence most of those talking points they use are based on nonsense.
They ignore the facts and think that their wacked out opinions ARE facts...LMFAO.
They( right wing-nuts) ignore the site Factcheck.org like it doesn't exist...LOL. Why you might ask ? It is because their nonsense has no basis in facts and lord forbid that they would base any of their arguments on FACTS.
Let's get real here for a moment here....While Obama is certainly NOT perfect for sure I give the man a solid B+ for at least honestly trying to get this country back on track after the 8 years of Bush/Cheney fvcking up this country big time .
In closing,when Obama's first term is up I believe that this country will be solidly back on track to warrant a second 4 years for Obama as President of these United States !
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sloriver
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Aug 29 @ 4:21PM
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While I don't agree with the harsh rhetoric (we need some understanding here, not conflict) I do agree with some of your conclusions. In eight years we have certainly become less secure and more hated throughout the world. The old saying, "you can't kill your enemies but you can win them over" has been proven. The Taliban and Al Quida are still healthy and active and we've opened Iraq to terrorists where they weren't operating before. I certainly hope we're on a better path now and I think we are.
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 4:24PM
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They ignore factcheck.org because they believe it's part of a liberal conspiracy. They really dislike the Annenberg family (the people who brought the world "Reader's Digest"...). To which they point several prominent liberals that have been on the boards of the Annevberg Foundation. Ignoring, of course, all the CONSERVATIVES who have served on the boards.
Selective filtering of information, very much necessary to maintain their fever-pitch of paranoia.
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lovestobake
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Aug 29 @ 4:50PM
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Would have more respect for your blog, if you mentioned the left wingers lie at time also.
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 4:57PM
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Would have more respect for your blog, if you mentioned the left wingers lie at time also.
True, true. But in recent events, which side has resorted SOLELY to the use of lies?
I mean, if one side lies 25% of the time (liberals), and the other side 90% (conservatives), there's a difference between the two.
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lovestobake
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Aug 29 @ 5:10PM
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There are blatant lies, and subtle lies. The right wins on the blatant, the left wins on subtle.
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 5:31PM
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There are blatant lies, and subtle lies. The right wins on the blatant, the left wins on subtle.
Blatant and large, versus subtle and small.
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donato
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Aug 29 @ 5:32PM
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Your blog is full of contadictions  You are quick to go back to the Bush years and play your blame game..But the years of fighting terror were hard but necessary for America..Your so called facts should always come from several independent and respected sources so one can form a rational oppinion as to the truth !
The future of America will depend on independent thinkers...Not the right or left blind followers with their blind party loyalty 
One must judge Mr. Obama by the facts....His background,character and accomplishments... I give him a A+ for his slick ability as an orator and an F for his abilities as our President 
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CHARLIgurl1
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Aug 29 @ 5:52PM
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versus subtle and small.
The liberal media has told many a porky pie and some very blatent too.
Recently they so say reported a white man carrying a gun at a townhall meeting and said the people were racist. They just showed the shot of the gun.
When the clip was played in full on Fox news, you could see it was actually a black man standing there.
The liberal media has also called concerned citizens mobs, Palosi has called people who dont want the health care. unpatriotic' and swastika wearing thugs This is government talking about their own citizens this is disgraceful.
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 5:56PM
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The liberal media has told many a porky pie and some very blatent too.
Ah, but when it comes to demagoguery, the liberal media has NOTHING on the conservative media. The conservatives have learned the lessons of Goebbels, and never let a big lie pass unrepeated ad nauseum.
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 6:09PM
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I wonder, of all the things you've posted about the Obama administration, Charli, of all the things you've learned on the conservative media, that have been shown to be blatant and slanderous lies, how many of them do you continue to believe...?
Have you been swayed one iota by all the debunking done over the last few weeks, in other words?
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MrPaul
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Aug 29 @ 7:04PM
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The future of America will depend on independent thinkers...Not the right or left blind followers with their blind party loyalty   
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musicianfriend
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Aug 29 @ 7:10PM
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FactCheck...owned by Annenbergs...Obamas past employers..They are great friends..They are always going to be on his side..
Same with Snopes..all liberal owned..
Geeesshhh..thats like lettingthe fox watch over the chickens...do you think were stupid? 
Ok. then..how about if the tables were turned and there was a Factcheck owned by Cheney or Bush..would you buy into it?
Of course not..lmao..your bias is showing.
MediaMatters...a Clinton entity..no thanks liberal bias there too..
I find it funny that you call us RW nuts..when in fact..you voted for a man who is lying to you..
He chastized Bush for the war...and Patriot Act..vowing to fix that..yet..did nothing but EXPAND the Patriot Act..and is now suportting a surge in Afganistan..
Are you delusional?
This man just passed a PORKULOUS bill that DID NOTHING to stimulate this economy..
I cant wait to see whats being written here in a bout 6 months to a year..when you finally realize..that this man is destroying this nation on purpose..destroying peoples lives....their savings..homes..jobs...all for what?
To shove down our throats his agenda..the NWO agenda...
You people are nut jobs..and blind as freaking bats..
The dumbing down of America sure did work..posts like these are evidence of this fact..
In closing,when Obama's first term is up I believe that this country will be solidly back on track to warrant a second 4 years for Obama as President of these United States !
Ah..what exactly is he doing for us? anything? I sure cant see that hes doing a damn thing to get this country on track..
Tell me what you see..that I dont..
The next election will be a boondoggle for democrats..their ratings are in the toilet..and rightly so..they suck as politicans...they dont know what they are doing...
Its like watching the freaking Keystone Cops..
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 7:14PM
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See? Didn't I call it? In the forums, MF has been shown that there were conservatives on the same panels as Obama. But does she actually pay attention to that fact? No, of course not. Because it doesn't fit into her solipsist view of the universe. She defines her own reality, and ignores anything that might challenge her prejudicial beliefs.
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CHARLIgurl1
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Aug 29 @ 7:31PM
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how many of them do you continue to believe...?
I do not believe everything put in front of me, but I do ask questions, truth behind what has been said.
Only the other evening I disagreed with something Glen Beck said about the health care in the UK, because I know the truth, I lived there, grew up there, so I can recognise a lie or misquote if I have alterior information.
What I dont do is believe either the Democrats who have tried to push everything they want for the government down everyones throats and we are all to agree with it blindly without questioning it.
The coverage of town hall meetings for instance.. if one watches one chanell youll see them portayed as angry mobs and nazis.. if you watch another, youll see them as just people, asking questions and demanding answers, some shouted yes, thats true.. but they cannot all be labeled under the same name as mobs or nazis.
Between the right and left there is truth, but finding it is difficult, as they are both swayed to their own agenda.
Take the birthers for instance.. labelled nut jobs etc... what is so wrong in wanting to know that the President of the most powerful country in the world is who he says he is? Or should we all just believe everything that drips from Obama's crew 's mouths like they are Gods?
Evidence is mounting that Obama is turning America in to a socialist country.. yet the media doesnt question it.. nor care it seems.
Obama has surrounded himself with Zsars who advise him.. some have openly admitted that they revere communist leaders.. shouldnt we want to know what they are advising our president?
As Jefferson once said.. "Question with boldness"
If more people questioned what is happening with the government and not just sit and applaude everything it does.. we would all be a lot better informed.
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 7:54PM
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The coverage of town hall meetings for instance.. if one watches one chanell youll see them portayed as angry mobs and nazis.. if you watch another, youll see them as just people, asking questions and demanding answers, some shouted yes, thats true.. but they cannot all be labeled under the same name as mobs or nazis.
The town hall mobs are a product of the right-wing media. They disseminated enough disinformation that they've inflamed people. People are upset about stuff that isn't even being considered. And when the politicians try to explain that the stuff people are saying they don't want in the reform, isn't actually in the reform? Why, the mobs shout them down.
The mobs aren't interested in debate. They aren't interested in facts. They're only interested in rioting through the meetings, preventing EVERYONE ELSE--those who actually ARE willing to listen--from learning the facts.
Take the birthers for instance.. labelled nut jobs etc... what is so wrong in wanting to know that the President of the most powerful country in the world is who he says he is? Or should we all just believe everything that drips from Obama's crew 's mouths like they are Gods?
Nope. However, when a preponderance of evidence exists to show that he DOES, in fact, meet the requirements of the office, and when the only sources disputing that fact are increasingly fringer, a rational person might conclude that the birth certificate shown by the Obama administration is real, and that the statement from the Hawaiian government that out-and-out clear-as-day says Obama is a natural-born American citizen wasn't coerced.
Evidence is mounting that Obama is turning America in to a socialist country.. yet the media doesnt question it.. nor care it seems.
Socialist doesn't mean "left of laissez-faire capitalism." What Obama is doing is "capitalism with some restrictions." There's a whole spectrum to the economics. There's a wide, wide, wide gap between where we are, and where the socialist end of the scale starts. Tossing around "socialism" (or "communism" or "Nazi" or whatever) whenever you dislike something, renders those words meaningless. They're "scare" words, meant to disengage the rational portion of the brain.
Obama has surrounded himself with Zsars who advise him.. some have openly admitted that they revere communist leaders.. shouldnt we want to know what they are advising our president?
1) Obama can nominate whomever he damn well pleases. It's up to the Senate to confirm them. Do you have proof that the Senate has been bypassed? (I.e., a REAL source, not some whackadoo blog or website) All REAL sources I've seen is "this person is coming before the Senate at such-and-such a date."
2) Some proof of openly communist leanings? And why that is relevant? I'm sure quite a few of the Republican nominees over the last couple of decades have revered right-wing dictators (e.g., Saddam Hussein, Augusto Pinochet, Manuel Noriega) who have appealed to their tastes. Aside from a few problems with civil rights, we haven't swung THAT far to the right.
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MrPaul
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Aug 29 @ 8:39PM
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The town hall mobs are a product of the right-wing media. They disseminated enough disinformation that they've inflamed people. People are upset about stuff that isn't even being considered. And when the politicians try to explain that the stuff people are saying they don't want in the reform, isn't actually in the reform? Why, the mobs shout them down. Sweet do you know this as a fact  or as something the Liberl media has told you  Have you gone to any of the meetings, talked to the people yourself
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 29 @ 8:43PM
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It's been reported on all news sources, including the conservative ones. The mobs are disrupting the meetings, which means that the people who are trying to learn something are being denied the ability to be informed voters.
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MrPaul
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Aug 29 @ 8:49PM
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Intresting I have been to two of them, the majority of the people were ove 60 and had lagitement questons And what happen to answering the rest of your comments ? The town hall mobs are a product of the right-wing media. They disseminated enough disinformation that they've inflamed people. People are upset about stuff that isn't even being considered. And when the politicians try to explain that the stuff people are saying they don't want in the reform, isn't actually in the reform? Why, the mobs shout them down.
The mobs aren't interested in debate. They aren't interested in facts. They're only interested in rioting through the meetings, preventing EVERYONE ELSE--those who actually ARE willing to listen--from learning the facts. Looks like BOTH side are tossing a bunch of BS around
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chatillion
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Aug 29 @ 9:22PM
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musicianfriend said:
...do you think were stupid?
Last time I checked it was we're...
Would you like to ask the question again?
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SweetNapaGuy
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Aug 30 @ 2:36AM
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So FactCheck.org, with its myriad of sources to back up every assertion, is somehow less believable than an opinion blog lacking in ANY sources... 
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chubs
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Aug 30 @ 3:09AM
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thats right, sweet...its just how the neo-con right wing nut-jobs work...its kinda like keith olbermann & ed schultz (yay for ND!), always correcting the facts rats limbytch, bill o'raly, and shawn manatee lie about in their far right propaganda b.s. broadcasts on tv and radio.
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ForumMod
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Aug 30 @ 3:10AM
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reposting rightwingrepublican's comment without the 'kill' reference. 
rightwingrepublican said:
I'm guessing someone must have won another argument with you again....
Factcheck.org <---- yeah, really credible.
Do you also consider CNN, Snopes and Wikipedia credible?
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