First, the negs of Obama speech.
He basically said to the country, I am no longer going to deal with the Reps.
Now, after months of trying to shut down health-care totally, I can see why he's going there. Hopefully he will include some of the very good idea's of the reps like tort reform and allowing cross state selling of ins to make it much more competitive.
He didn't give me enough details about how this will be paid for.
Joe Wilson screaming out that Obama is a lair only gave the Dems the proof of the Reps being the party of no and was one of the most disrespectful acts ever during a Presidential Address.
Then adding Va rep Cantor texting all through the speech was another major disrespect for the office.
Now, the pos points.
If only pre-existing clause of it makes through, our country will be much better for it, Obama made it loud and clear he want this.
This was the first time that that Public could understand clearly what Obama wants in his health-care bill and that the general public could actually understand what he was saying. Instead of his usual Professor way of speaking.
He did an outstanding job of putting down all the major lies about the health-care bill, but, we must also wait to see what is in the actual final bill before we can give him full credit on that.
My conclusion is that Obama made great stride towards getting a health-care bill through in some form in that speech.
I will until I see the final draft to make a decision either way because that is the only time one has all the data to make an inform decision.
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burnslikethesun
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Sep 10 @ 8:54AM
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He basically said to the country, I am no longer going to deal with the Reps.
Wrong, what he said, and he means what he said was, I will listen to and am open to any and all suggestions. I will not take serious anyone that has claimed to just be interested in stopping reform from happening. Many republicans are on record say as much. Does this mean he will listen to them all? no, yet there are 166 point presented by Republicans that are in some of the bills. This is much better then when the Republicans had complete power, they are on record say, we are the majority, deal with it.
He didn't give me enough details about how this will be paid for. Again wrong, he has repeatedly stated who this would happen, over and over and over again. The song hasn't changed.
Joe Wilson screaming out that Obama is a lair only gave the Dems the proof of the Reps being the party of no and was one of the most disrespectful acts ever during a Presidential Address. Lord Joe is a cracked, Dems have had proof of this long before him. What it has done was open the eyes of a few more swing voters and some other republicans. There is a split happening in the republican party. Old verse new. Til this split is mended, there is no hope to regain any control. Just like any professional sports team that reinvents themselves. It takes years, or one really good lie, say something alone the lines of you must live in fear of Saddam and his connection to the 9-11 attacks.
If only pre-existing clause of it makes through, our country will be much better for it, Obama made it loud and clear he want this. This will not be enough. Not by a long shot. For profit health care can not be the only choice or it is just reshuffling of more of the same.
He did an outstanding job of putting down all the major lies about the health-care bill, but, we must also wait to see what is in the actual final bill before we can give him full credit on that. Completely agreed.
I will until I see the final draft to make a decision either way because that is the only time one has all the data to make an inform decision. True that my friend true that.
I give ya a Kudo for your blog.
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Mission_Impossible139
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Sep 10 @ 8:58AM
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If you dig deep into tort reform, I think you will find it's not that big of a deal. The insurance companies are upping the rates for malpractice as high as the market will allow. In other words, they are scamming the doctors to no end. Surprising? Not at all. When you look at the numbers as to those so called "win the jackpot" lawsuits, they are really only a small small percentage and used mainly as yet another scare tactic produced by the health care corporate rapists. They make a ton of profit scaring the doctors with this BS.
Malpractice lawsuits have actually gone down by 9 percent in some states. Tort law is not federal law so each state has to make it's own laws concerning tort change. So, this is all a bunch of hype from, again, the right who is being herded through the gates by the insurance companies to distort and distract from the real problem of health care reform.
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 9:07AM
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Hi Burn,
As it your right to your opinion on how you perceive Obama speech, no one can argue with how you saw things last night. I believe we are both for a good health-care bill, bravo
I have mad respect for anyone who brings forth their passion and logical points of views, ty
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 9:22AM
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Hi Mission, yes, you are correct malpractice suit are down, however there are fed tort laws.
United States tort law consists of all the various tort laws of the states. Torts are generally divided into three categories: intentional torts, negligence, and strict liability torts.
In my area, many doctor have left the state or went into another field because of the lawsuits. I lost my pediatrician who was awesome, my family doctor and an extreme amount of Orthopedists have left the state due to higher premiums because of law suits.
Now, should health-care be held hostage over this one issue hell no.
What you said on my other blog is so true, Having good health-care is American.
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gunn12fan
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Sep 10 @ 9:24AM
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Yall are going to run this in to the ground
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Mission_Impossible139
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Sep 10 @ 9:33AM
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Yall are going to run this in to the ground
This is one of the most progressive pieces of legislation in our lifetime. The healthcare corporations are putting millions into misinformation. It has to be talked about so the truth gets out. We need health care reform with a public option to bring the costs under control, to make Americans healthy and to allow American business' to be competitive in the world markets. It's essential, important and if not done, we'll see an economy sink even further into an abyss we have not seen ever in America.
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msjo62064
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Sep 10 @ 9:36AM
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I agree with you mission something needs to be done. I think Obama has the right idea he just needs time and support to get it done. This country was ready for a change thats why he got voted into office. And he got stuck with alot of mess thats been building for years. So if he can help out the American people more power to him 
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 9:39AM
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Mission, your 100% right on how important this issue truly is.
Spending over a trillion dollar on the Iraq war and giving billions away to foreign countries is ok, but making sure the the American public doesn't have medical care isn't ok.
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CentsofHumor
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Sep 10 @ 9:49AM
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What I've not seen so far..an for that matter, not even mentioned is the>>>>>>>
"insult" leveled at all Americans by Obama...Here he is, pontification on just how
this whole charade is going to be funded........."Not one dime of TAXPayer moned
will be taxed" !!! ...the money will simply be relocated from wasteful projects already being spent.....
Are we presumed stupid enough, to swallow that swill? If Medicare/Medicade has
been wasting 900 billions over the past forty years...what's going to make any of
that change.happen........OBAMA...yeah right! ! Noticed that the only point Obama raised on Tort Reform, Malpractice, Lawsuits,, met with howls and cheers
whilst Pelosi, sat stone faced, in disapproval....And with all the Lawyers controlling
so much of what the House and Senate dwells upon...its back to same ole, same ole. Makes not a bit of difference if you're a Democrat or Republican.....the lies just
keep coming.
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lovestobake
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Sep 10 @ 10:04AM
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I am with you cents, but; what also concerns me is why all the lies.
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 10:06AM
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entofhumor, I totally agree that Obama did a terrible job of explaining how this was getting paid for. Though, I believe I could find ways to help pay for it.
1. close up every drug rehab and anything related to it in the country, why in the hell would pay for a system that has a 90% fail rate and to people who choose to use drugs over and over, rather then give it to a person who has diabetes,breast cancer...etc.
2. Have the Govt buy out the last years of the top 20 meds people need, this would cut the cost of medi-care,medi-caid and people who couldn't afford the 12.00 pill can now afford the fifty cent pill and not end up in the hospital costing the govt 300,000. 00 operation because they couldn't afford their meds.
The other great benefit is that the pharma companies will have billion for more R/D
3. Open more local clinic's for minor stuff, to help relieve the hospital emergency room and lower the overall cost. or example: If a person who can't afford to pay his or her family doctor the 80.00 visit, then goes to the hospital where the hospital doctor there will do the exact treatment for 800.00 and bill the govt.
What this country true need is more great idea's and less stupid bantering.
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Loren62
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Sep 10 @ 10:27AM
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If this Health Care abortion goes down in flames...don't blame the Republicans. The Democrats have the seats needed in BOTH houses of Congress to get this done. If they don't...it is on them. The blue dog Democrats DON'T want to vote for this mess...and frankly, I don't blame them one bit. Before you all start to blame the other side of the isle....you had better get the votes settled on your own damn side first! 
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Mission_Impossible139
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Sep 10 @ 10:54AM
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Endofhumor and lovestofake...please tell me of a better way to deal with the health care crisis? How to cut costs without raping the public and lining the pockets of healthcare corporations who survive on coroporate welfare? I'm curious as to what alternative you have to offer rather than listen to more of your off color dogma let's hear something positive.??????
Where's the beef fellows?
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SweetNapaGuy
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Sep 10 @ 11:07AM
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The Democrats bent over backward trying to get a bipartisan bill through Congress. They cut out passage after passage, trying to gain Republican support. And yet, even though they put in everything the Republicans asked for (at least, those that made sense...), the Republicans have made it their political agenda to make sure that nothing gets passed. It would be too much of a political coup for the Democrats if people could actually be healthy without going bankrupt.
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willy3411
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Sep 10 @ 12:36PM
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In 2005 President Bush was booed by the Democrats at the State Of The Union Address.
When a Republican speaks out against Obama, he gets chastised.
Such a double standard. Disgusting
Dems boo Bush
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 12:55PM
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Hi willy, if it wasn't wrong why did Joe Wilson say he was sorry and nowhere in my blog did I say it was ok for des to do the same thing.
Now, if the reps thought it was so wrong, why did they decide to do it.
It was a plan thing, the reps and dems had a copy of the speech ahead of time, therefore there wasn't any surprise. He did on purpose, to take away the meia attention from the address on health-care.
To some point it did work, the media is all over it, but, in many other ways it backfired because the one things seniors hate is disrespect, not to mention all of the soilders who are fighting for this country under Obama command.
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willy3411
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Sep 10 @ 1:05PM
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Ed, I'm just pointing out that there is a double standard. It's ok to blast Republicans in the media, but when a Democrat is in power, there are too many softballs thrown his way.
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ladyvampire
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Sep 10 @ 1:27PM
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Kudos Ed, and thanks for backing up my earlier blog! 
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 1:42PM
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Hi Willy,
Your right, to only point at reps is wrong as it's wrong only to point out at dems.
But, couldn't the reps give obama some time in office before they throw stones, they been attacking anything and everything he says or proposes.
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 1:44PM
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Rightwing,it's a good thing your not a lobbyist, our country would be sold awhile ago with your looks.
Being a perv isn't a bad thing,lol
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willy3411
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Sep 10 @ 6:16PM
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Ed, that's because he lies.
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 10 @ 7:46PM
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My comments vanished 
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edthepoet
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Sep 10 @ 9:44PM
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Right wing, I promise I didn't remove your comment. My guess that either the mod did or there was a system glitch.
So please post what you wrote again.
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