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posted 9/14/2009 10:17:02 PM |
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  NASSY

So, I am surfin the net just reading up on current events. I see a new article that they are going to start allowing the hunting of Grey Wolves. I can not even say how I feel........ The finally have the numbers of these beautiful creatures to be taken off the endangered species list and now that there are more they feel that is to many. People complain because the kill there livestock and there pets......don't get me wrong it is sad to have lost a pet to wild creatures. I lost a cat to coyotes. But I blame myself......if you live in an area where theses animals live and hunt then you should be taking precautions for your domestic pets. We pretty much killed of the Grey Wolves for there pelts. Not to feed families, or for survival it was all for the money. Now here we are again ..........I know that they will be hard to find.....they may not get that many but, one it to many. I could go on and on about it all, but I won't I have attached a link so you can see the video and read the info. Make your own judgement.....I have lived in Idaho in the middle of nowhere and had bears, moose, coyotes, elk, deer....just about any kind of wildlife to live with. Make your choice.....

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212255880.shtml

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Comments:
Jankia

Sep 14 @ 10:51PM  
In your area controlling the wolf pop.is more in line with protecting its endangered prey...right?
Here in the Great Lakes area Ive seen its not so much about protecting pets and farm animals as it is complaints from city dwellers concerned about there childrens safety and the pilfering of there precious garbage can for food.
starflower10

Sep 14 @ 11:40PM  
I had a red wolf that was around my home for about a year. She was lame in one leg and she would come up and eat my cat food. I was tolld they ate cats which is a lie, she was scared of my cats. I have not seen her for about 6 months guess seh died. They are beautiful animals hate to see any of them killed.
fromscratch

Sep 14 @ 11:48PM  
They nearly wiped it them out years ago, what a shame.....
travelwoman

Sep 15 @ 12:37AM  

They have all the explanations you want for legalizing the wolf hunt again.
That they eat their sheep, and calves, and pets....
That they fear for their kids at the school bus stop....
That there are "simply" too many, since there are now supposedly over 1000 gray wolves....
etc. etc. etc. and very much whatever

But... I think the truth is that they simply want to go hunting a wolf.
I guess they feel then more "manly" or something...

As soon as the news were out that they could hunt wolves, Fish and
Wildlife (or whatever it's called) have sold several hundred wolf tags in a couple of days, only just in Idaho.
After a couple of weeks of open hunting season, 3 wolves were dead...
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PS and off topic.... why not changing the settings of your blog on "automatic approval"?
Coven4nt

Sep 15 @ 1:15AM  
Well yeah its sad to kill these animals but dont blame the hunters for it, blame the ranchers whose only proposal was to kill them so theyr livestock lives, the governament if it was effective they would pay the ranchers for theyr loss and let the wolves live, but they dont wanna see things from that point of view.
In Portugal the wolves are also a manace to livestock, yet the governament offers a compensation prize to the ranchers that loose animals to the wolves...
but well thats just my point of view, not all idealists share the same point of view
terriblethom

Sep 15 @ 2:04AM  
[B] I am an avid hunter and have been all my life. I will tell anyone out there that the howling cry of a wolf on a winters night is one of the most beautiful sounds you can hear. I think the government has opened the season so they will get more votes for our lying president. The ranchers control a lot of money to give to him. They fought the restocking for years. Wolves prey on the weak and sickly mostly and since the deer population is down out there in the western states they are eating beef. Hey guys they push the slogan on all of us to eat beef so why not the wolves? Oh I forgot they dont get robbed at the grocery store paying for a decent steak or roast. Thom

PS, the deer population is down because the ranchers shoot them so they dont eat the precious grass the cows feed on.
dizzydoll

Sep 15 @ 2:06AM  


more babies born less space to accommodate them and so humans will encroach into wildlife areas until it is all gone

i am pro-nature... not pro-human
there should be more of us
mystery2u888

Sep 15 @ 9:51AM  
travelwoman

Sep 15 @ 11:26AM  

This is not my blog, but I can't help coming back to it and being happy about the different comments....

... when even hunters tell you that legalizing the hunt of wolves again has nothing to do with livestock and child safety, etc.... that should really make us think...
thenewguy295

Sep 15 @ 11:28AM  
They are probably allowing it for the no doubt high hunting fee they will be able to charge to bring some money into the gov't coffers. They'll probably require a local guide which will mollify the locals a little bit and the slow elk farmers or sheep molesters will vote for the politicians that allowed it.

We need a lot more wolves before we should be hunting them but once an animal has a legal hunting season on it that animal is pretty well assured of thriving. Most of our conservation dollars come from hunting fees and that money gets spent on animal habitat and protection during the "off season". In a kind of back handed way this could go far towards a 'wolf in every woods'. More wolves equals more hunting fees equals more money for the concerned conservation departments and more incentive to see the numbers increased.

Still I hate to see them killed.
misschoos

Sep 15 @ 12:53PM  
amvet

Sep 15 @ 4:00PM  
I would venture to say only a few of you, if not all, have never seen a gray wolf in the wild. They are large and when hungry can take down a full grown elk, bull or an easy prey is a human. I agree somewhat that we need to protect them for no species need be wiped out. We have re-transplanted black bear here and we have had several attacks. A woman that was feeding them, which is unlawful, was malled nearly to death by a black male bear that she would swim with in her little pawn. They are dangerous wild animals, even though they can be very friendly, they can turn on you in a heart beat.
I have a friend that raises Grey Wolves with a Federal and State Permit and the big male that he carries around with him waighs over 250 lbs and stands over seven feet when standing up. He keeps him on a large chain when out in public and has them behind 2 high fences at his remote cabin as the law requires. He told me, no matter how much they have been handled or how many generations they have been in captivity they are still dangerous at feeding time. They are not teddy bears. I believe you might change your mind a little if you came face to face with one in the wild especially if he or she decided to have you for dinner. Check where you reside and if all you see is streets, cars and houses you are more than safe and it that position is where your opinion is coming from you might want to rethink it.
amvet

Sep 15 @ 4:00PM  
I would venture to say only a few of you, if not all, have never seen a gray wolf in the wild. They are large and when hungry can take down a full grown elk, bull or an easy prey is a human. I agree somewhat that we need to protect them for no species need be wiped out. We have re-transplanted black bear here and we have had several attacks. A woman that was feeding them, which is unlawful, was malled nearly to death by a black male bear that she would swim with in her little pawn. They are dangerous wild animals, even though they can be very friendly, they can turn on you in a heart beat.
I have a friend that raises Grey Wolves with a Federal and State Permit and the big male that he carries around with him waighs over 250 lbs and stands over seven feet when standing up. He keeps him on a large chain when out in public and has them behind 2 high fences at his remote cabin as the law requires. He told me, no matter how much they have been handled or how many generations they have been in captivity they are still dangerous at feeding time. They are not teddy bears. I believe you might change your mind a little if you came face to face with one in the wild especially if he or she decided to have you for dinner. Check where you reside and if all you see is streets, cars and houses you are more than safe and it that position is where your opinion is coming from you might want to rethink it.
Coven4nt

Sep 15 @ 11:15PM  
Wolves prey on the weak and sickly mostly

Yes they do, but you also know that a ungry wolf will care less for weak and sick animal if he sees a cow in front of him, wolves are also oportunist hunters by default, its theyr nature to act that way and we must respect that, but like you said ranchers make alot of pressure and that is why governaments act the way they do.

Lets not blame the beasts for what they do naturaly... blame men for theyr stupidity
Coven4nt

Sep 15 @ 11:35PM  
He told me, no matter how much they have been handled or how many generations they have been in captivity they are still dangerous at feeding time.


Well yeah, it took men hundreds of years to domesticate wolves and turn them into house hold dogs, you cant simply expect to supress thousands of years of animal instinct in a couple dozen years, it takes alot of time to "reprogram" an animal basic instinct, and even so they will never be fully domesticated, take a german sheapard for example, when he feeds try and put your hand in the bowl of food and in 90% of the cases youll see that he growls at you or might even threat to bite your hand.

One thing is certain, men already obliterated lots of species from the face of the earth, and this senseless killing needs to stop and we need to think ahead of what can we do to save what we have left, for the first time in the history of the planet one specie has the hability to protect all the others, its up to us and the future generations and how well they are educated to preserve all life forms of this planet, else none of this would actualy exist.
We live in a simbiotic form of life and we need to realise that what we do to one specie will affect an entire chain and further down the isle will affect us aswell.
amvet

Sep 16 @ 3:17PM  
I agree with you almost completely. The powers that be say we loose thousands, yes thousands of species each year. A lot of them can only be seen under magnification. What do we do only preserve or try to preserve the large pleasing to the eye species. It is and has always been when any species competes with Humans for space to live or grow animals or food the species in conflict will loose every time and has since time began. The restocking programs by State and Federal Wild Life Departments is in my estimation brainless. Do you think you should leave a snake hole in your house just because poisonous snakes live outside or do you reserve that area for a safe haven for yourself? The gators, black bear, cayote, gray wolf, Elk and many other species that they have transplanted at much government expense just because they once roamed there makes no sence at all. The become a nusience and many time dangerous to the people that eradicated them from that area, I bumped my trolling motor into a 12 foot gator in an area that I had fished productively for years until the state re introduced them back there. In places you can have all the gators you want so there is not a shortage. Wouldn't it make more since to Re Introduce the American Indian to all of Eastern United States at great expense to the Government. You talk about a species that needs saving, Check this out and see if you might want to cry a tear or two for them, that is, what is left of them.. But Hey, The way they are treated is OK because I and you probably are getting the benefit of their displacement, and most of the rest of people with a cause of their own also. We tend to Gag on a Knat and Swolow a Camel. OOPS, not swolow a camel because they are in need also. What we need do is get things in perspective.
misschoos

Sep 16 @ 3:35PM  
Why don't you all go and live somewhere safe?
amvet

Sep 16 @ 4:48PM  
And where would that be Chicago or Houston or any other large metro area. There are more killings each day there than our military has a week. No thank you I prefer the wild side. You missed the point though, where you live now once was a wild place and the indians and the wolfs had it why don't you invite them there. Seems right to me.
amvet

Sep 16 @ 4:48PM  
And where would that be Chicago or Houston or any other large metro area. There are more killings each day there than our military has a week. No thank you I prefer the wild side. You missed the point though, where you live now once was a wild place and the indians and the wolfs had it why don't you invite them there????? Seems right to me.
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