I've officially lost it. I'm sure i never actually had it, but it's confirmed, it's gone.
All i know is that i believe people should have health care. Absolutely. But at what expense?
What type of horseshit will be included?
Nope, i don't want to pay for someone who shouldn't be here in first place to go to the Doctors. Or their kids.
Don't care to pay for the baby killing mills.
Don't care to pay for some lazy asshole who's never worked a day in their lives.
Ive struggled with health issues my entire life. I had to get a job to help pay for my medical at 15 years old. I understand what it's like to be in pain and not be able to go to the Doctors. I've been there. I'm there right now.
When i had to have a test done (which cost about $4,000) i got my ass on the phone and found a insurance company who would give me a plan for $200/month.
I paid the stinking money and got my test and my follow up done.
I dropped it after that. case closed.
I could have kept paying it, but i figured what the heck. drop it.
Fixing the health care issue is not as black and white as just giving it to people.
I lived in England as many of you know. I saw the Health Care that was provided.
I'm not going to beat the dead horse again, but i can say, it doesn't fix what's already broken.
It was really no help to terminally ill people.
We can bitch about it as much as we want. It's not going to change the outcome at all.
Just sit back and watch the wackiness unfold, that's the only way to really see whats going to happen.
If i discover that i'm indeed paying for illegals, baby killers and lazy jerks, i'm going to start my business again and not pay taxes.
I'm refuse to pay for those people.
If it turns out that we don't have to pay for any of these things, i will apologize to all the people i verbally destroyed over it.
I'm over it. I think most of us are.
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Josuha
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Sep 15 @ 4:31PM
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There are more than a couple of issues with the present 'Health Care' proposal.
More government.
Then a 'mandate'..
One proposal had a $3800.00 'fine' for not having health insurance.
Think about it.
People are struggling to keep a roof over their head sand food on the table.
We already have Social Security almost broke.
I am for Health Care, but not a 'federal' mandate.
The Health care should be a State issue.
As a matter of fact, there are going to be challedges to this under the 10th Amendment from what I hear.
And, we can't afford it.
Our gross export is now a pathetic 9%.
That means, we don't make anything.
We are no longer an 'industrialized' country.
People need to get this through their heads.
What America is living on now is simply a reputation from the past, not present, as an industrialized leader..
Let's get the jobs and industry back so people can afford to buy Health Care.
Not another debt and fiasco and more government in our lives.
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 4:44PM
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I heard something about the $3800.00 'fine'.
Sounds a little bit like Hitler to me. (oh yes, i did)
So.... Fine people for not having health care.
Maybe they can fine people for being sick, Liberals, Conservative, not having blue eyes. lol Sorry, thats exactly how it sounds.
That's one hell of a parking ticket.
Again, i'm sure all the lies and any truth will come into light quickly.
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Nightowl001
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Sep 15 @ 4:50PM
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Again, i'm sure all the lies and any truth will come into light quickly.
It's been months now that the bill has been up for debate. The biggest lies I keep hearing are from those who feel the bill should be defeated by any means. Define "quickly."
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Josuha
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Sep 15 @ 4:52PM
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Here is a link to the story by the A.P. (Associated Press)
Keep in mind this is just one proposal.
There are several flying around.
Some even more outragous than this.
Fines proposed for going without health insurance
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR (AP) – 6 days ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9AJGOQG2
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 5:19PM
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Hoping that quickly means within a few months of this stuff passing.
Thanks Josuha.
I'll be sure to check it out.
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ragtopcookie
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Sep 15 @ 5:36PM
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I think we should wait and see how it all plays out......no reason to panic just yet.....i work in healthcare.....in fact...just got home from work.....tell you what....ill keep an eye out...and let everybody know when to panic......  .........in fact...on thursday.....we have a staff meeting to talk about our 2010 benefits......ill let you know how it all plays out......stay turned.....same bat time.....same bat channel.........cookie
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 5:38PM
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Holy shit.
A scammer posted a comment... LOL
That's funny. i'm leaving it up.
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 5:39PM
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Cookie,
you'll be the first to fill us in.
can't wait to see what happens.
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ragtopcookie
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Sep 15 @ 5:41PM
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Dr love......calling doctor love....ive got the cure youre thinking of....calling dr. loooooooooove.......thats my ring tone on my cell...... ........cookie
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armybear
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Sep 15 @ 5:51PM
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you should have seen the crap I went thru just to get a flu shot!!!!!!!
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 6:00PM
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you should have seen the crap I went thru just to get a flu shot!!!!!!!
Dont get me started again on flu shots. LOL
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 6:00PM
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Dr love......calling doctor love....ive got the cure youre thinking of....calling dr. loooooooooove.......thats my ring tone on my cell.
I would expect nothing less Cookie.
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ragtopcookie
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Sep 15 @ 6:07PM
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My very first ring tone was .....dont fear the reaper......you should have heard the laughter when my cell went off during staff meetings.......kind of approrate.....i was told..... ......cookie
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gunn12fan
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Sep 15 @ 6:41PM
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Want my bill's RWR
in 1 year due to my blood pressure i have racked up close to $5k in expences going to the doc every 90 days getting pills every 30!! come on get a grip if you don't like it go find someone else to bitch too oh did i for get the $3000 ultrasound on my heart? yet we still pay for stuff like this it's called taxes!!!
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 7:03PM
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I have you beat by tens of thousands of dollars.
I have ONE hospital stay with a bill upwards of $22.000. Do you want it?
THAT'S ONE bill alone.
You want my bills?
I have all of those and still don't support hand outs.
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DiamondRain
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Sep 15 @ 7:17PM
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A person's right to have ANYTHING ends at my wallet.
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ForumMod
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Sep 15 @ 7:30PM
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Holy shit.
A scammer posted a comment... LOL
That's funny. i'm leaving it up.
oops, i took it down 
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 8:00PM
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Ahhhh bummer. It's ok.
That's the first time a scammer has actually posted on my blog. LOL
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chatillion
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Sep 15 @ 8:10PM
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RWR said:
When i had to have a test done (which cost about $4,000) i got my ass on the phone and found a insurance company who would give me a plan for $200/month.
I paid the stinking money and got my test and my follow up done.
I dropped it after that. case closed.
I could have kept paying it, but i figured what the heck. drop it.
OK... let's look at this from another point of view.
You have done the very same thing you complain about. You found a way to scam the insurance company... now, they will 'jack the premiums' for the good paying customers to cover their losses.
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 8:13PM
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I pay my bills.
I needed it to cover me so the hospital would do the test without upfront fees.
Big difference.
I'm not just letting them go and not paying them
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marchartist
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Sep 15 @ 8:42PM
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I live in Mass where you DO get fined, as does your employer. I'm single and make a decent living, so I have to pay $608 f***ing dollars a month and STILL have large copays for any procedures. We aren't given a choice. Okay, just venting....
And not sure how the Hitler reference fits in there...I'm pretty sure he didn't fine anyone for not having health insurance. He was kindof caught up in murdering them. Can we just stop comparing everyone we disagree with to Hitler? Please? Your points can certainly be made without that.
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SpiritOrnery
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Sep 15 @ 8:50PM
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Lol, I was wondering where it went, Mod!
I think it is insane to make people pay for insurance. Driving a car, sure, because if you hit someone, you need to be able to pay for injuries and repairs but health insurance? Get fkn REAL people. Many people NEVER go to the dr. Bite my azz. I am NOT paying for insurance. I would rather die of cancer MY way than pay people to poison me. Thanks but NO thanks.
NO forcing people to buy insurance. Then you are forced to go to drug dispensers to get back that money you were forced to spend. That is just CRAZY! NO! 
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RightWingRepublican
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Sep 15 @ 9:11PM
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March,
I don't recall you straightening out anyone who called Bush Hitler. 
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bardnsage
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Sep 15 @ 9:20PM
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What if the Bush is just trimmed like Hitler?
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Wolf36
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Sep 15 @ 9:57PM
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I'd just like for someone to point out, where in the constitution, does it give the Federal government the right to make citizens buy anything? If this bullshit bill is passed in it's present form, it's almost certain to be challenged in court and unless our justices are completely out of touch with reality, it will be shot down anyway.
I just wonder sometimes, "does our constitution even matter anymore to the people writing these bills"?
Wolf
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hart_of_gold64
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Sep 15 @ 9:58PM
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I have to agree with RWR about not paying anyones free ride in our country.It is hard enough for our economy to support what folks we do have here LEGALLY. Like you RWR I have worked since age 15.That was 30 yrs ago. Damn that seems like 4ever.I can say from past personal experience with someone our system totally sucks about helping the ones that need help.I know of at LEASE 20 druggies & drunks getting SSI & welfare because our system says that they can't work because it is a disease.ok..Big F**n deal! They CHOSE to do this! So why does MY money have to pay for THEIR habits? They claim sending them to a Methodone clinic or a Suboxen clinic is helping them.I have seen these people leave the dam suboxen clinic,go to WalGreens for their script & stand outside in full view of choldren dealing their suboxen away to get MORE drug money! Please someone tell me how that is fair! I have to do a mandatory piss & blood test drug test to keep my job so why not make it mandatory to make these lazy worthless pieces of dog vomit take a drug test & prove they are worthy of our money? Get off your damn lazy stinkin slimy asses & get a life a job something other than using MY money to shove up your nose or float around in your veins! ok..done venting...just HATE losers & our government allows this to happen
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justmike0
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Sep 15 @ 10:45PM
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It's been quite some time scence I have been active and it's my lose . I Thought it was called Match Doctor,Their are a lot of places to do that. Sorry if i offened U, I havent ment too do that  . Let's Float A Boat (Grils read my Prof.) and get away for a while. Good Luck. Mike  
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justmike0
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Sep 15 @ 11:10PM
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Wolf36, Right On
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yashaenka
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Sep 15 @ 11:38PM
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The senate new bill announced today has some real interesting things in it, like: Health insurance will be mandated on every person in this country or you will be fined. The other thing is the cost of your insurance cost to you will be 13% of your families income.
That cost for the most part will fall squarely on the middle class, so much for people making over 250,000 being the only ones affected. I just love Obamas statement about bills that are not even written. Just wait untill the Senate bill is reconciled with the 3200 bill of the congress I cannot wait to see all the intelligence our government has. 
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pns826
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Sep 16 @ 1:23AM
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So BO is going to cover more people with better coverage . Now just where is the money to do that going to come from? I guess they can just keep printing it like they are now.
Nah, they are going to take it from we people who pay taxes, give it to those who don't pay and break all of us. Liberals enjoy spending money and do until our money runs out.
The government run the health care program. My rear end! the ran Sociaal Security, Medi Care, Post Office, etc, etc and all are broke.
We gotta stop this, cause we are and will be paying for all the illegals in the country.
BO lies like Wilson said. It has nothing to do with race, the man is ruining our country along with Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, Frank and other Democrats.
I'm gone!! 
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GreatOakofPlenty
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Sep 16 @ 6:58AM
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Since you don't have this insurance anymore.. can we know a little more about the terms of the contract?
How did you buy it?
Were you honest on your application about the health problem you were dealing with?
Did they let you buy in and allow you to be eligible for coverage of the test you needed?
How high was the deductible. Was there a penalty you paid for dropping the insurance?
Was this the sort of problem you might have complications from before you turn 30?
What happens if it does?
What if you need a procedure which costs tens of thousands of dollars in care? How would you pay for that?
Did you use any public(state) insurace or facilities in your care? How do you compare hospitals in England to the U.S.?
Would you have the same access to the kind of care in the U.S. that you would have had in England?
Also.. does it make sense to say that Adolf Hitler was trying to force health insurance on people? The national health system in Germany dates to about the time of Hitler's birth and it's restoration after World War II was under the auspices of the United States whose leadership was trying to establish National Health Care in 1945 and 1947. Did you know that Nazi's were anti-Communist? That Hitler is believed to have personally been involved in the murder of German communists in the post World War I era? Did you also know that the only economy on Earth during World War II that didn't declare martial law or submit to rationing was the German government which maintained a free market economy thanks to it's fascist philosophy.
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GreatOakofPlenty
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Sep 16 @ 7:06AM
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marchartist
I live in Mass where you DO get fined, as does your employer. I'm single and make a decent living, so I have to pay $608 f***ing dollars a month and STILL have large copays for any procedures.
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However... Massachusetts passed this healthcare system under Mitt Romney's governorship. He didn't go as far as he could have gone in making it possible for you to get cheaper health insurance as he is a Republican and a former CEO at that who created precisely the kind of half in/half out policy that could sink the one being proposed nationally. You may be interested in what the AMA, which represents about 1/3rd of doctors, has to say about the fact that, while one single national system would be a horrifyingly complex thing to deal with... dealing with several dozen private corporate insurers who make their living trying to offer as little care as possible to the largest number of subscribers makes things even MORE confusing. Ultimately.. a public system is one which can not refuse anyone... the bane of any one who feels that scarcity and exclusivity is the requirement for a happy life, but precisely the opposite of what is being decried by fanatical republicans who claim that somehow insuring more people and making it less likely for the money they put into the system to be diverted into providing billions of dollars in profits that are not going to be spent making people well!
In Japan.. a country whose population is quite large.. 140,000,000 .. quite old... and quite demanding of many of the tests and medical procedures we demand here .. they STILL spend half as much per person on healthcare as we do.
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GreatOakofPlenty
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Sep 16 @ 7:10AM
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"Ive struggled with health issues my entire life. I had to get a job to help pay for my medical at 15 years old. I understand what it's like to be in pain and not be able to go to the Doctors. I've been there. I'm there right now."
If this is true... HOW did you buy insurance for so little. Which company was willing to insure someone with life long health issues. And considering that prescriptions and treatments can be several times the yearly salary of a VERY well paid person... what could you POSSIBLY have been earning at 15 years old to defray the cost of significant medical treatment. And if so... did you have to deal with ANY of these issues while you lived in England? And then... you came back to Michigan and you're saying you have enough money to pay for medical treatment on a fee basis until you needed insurance for a short while and some NON-PUBLIC, NON-SUBSIDIZED, NON-MANDATED BY THE STATE OF MICHIGAN health plan let you buy in... covered you for $4000 and then let you out without a penalty?
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GreatOakofPlenty
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Sep 16 @ 7:14AM
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Engler Announces MIFamily Plan to Expand Health Care Services Submitted to Secretary Thompson
Contact: Susan Shafer (517) 335-6397
March 1, 2002
Governor John Engler announced that Michigan’s proposed expansion of health care coverage, the MIFamily Plan, was submitted today to Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson. The Department of Community Health held public forums and accepted public testimony on the proposed plan following the announcement of the MIFamily plan in the Governor’s 2002 State of the State address.
“I am extremely pleased to submit to Secretary Thompson this comprehensive and innovative plan to expand health care to persons in need,” said Engler. “This plan was a priority in my State of the State address, and is a priority in Washington as President Bush continues to allow states the flexibility to improve and expand health care.”
“We appreciate the valuable input we received from consumers and advocates as the proposed plan was reviewed and many of these suggestions have been incorporated into the MIFamily Plan,” said Department of Community Health Director, James K. Haveman, Jr. “For example we re-visited the issue of co-payments for the lowest income beneficiaries under the plan, resulting in lower co-payments for this group.”
Federal approval of the Health Insurance Flexibility and Accountability (HIFA) waiver is necessary in order to implement the MIFamily plan. Michigan is hopeful it will receive federal government approval to begin MIFamily coverage as early as October 1, 2002.
MIFamily will not reduce or change health care benefits to senior citizens, pregnant women, persons eligible under a mandatory Medicaid category, children or persons with disabilities or persons with developmental disabilities. Mental health services will not change for any person currently receiving services and will be expanded to serve single adults and parents under the waiver. Under MIFamily, children covered by Healthy Kids will receive 12-month continuous health care coverage instead of the current month-to-month coverage.
Persons with disabilities will be able to earn more in the workplace without fearing they will lose their health insurance through Medicaid, as the MIFamily plan raises the income level to 350% of poverty for working disabled persons covered under Section 1619 (b). Currently, persons with disabilities on this coverage are limited to incomes of $21,886 and an asset limit of $2,000. The MIFamily plan will make it possible for those with disabilities to earn up to $31,188 a year and to save for retirement needs without losing their Medicaid benefits.
In response to public comments, the MIFamily proposal now includes Freedom Accounts for working disabled persons covered under Section 1619 (b). This group will now be able to save up to $15,000 in a Freedom Account to purchase items necessary to maintain their independence and the accounts will not be counted as an asset under the new provisions.
MIFamily will expand Medicaid benefits and improve health care access for 222,000 people as follows:
Parents and persons acting as a parent living in families with incomes between 51% and 100% of poverty, or approximately $7,535 to $15,070 a year for a family of three. Current coverage in this category is only available for parents with incomes below 50% of poverty. The MIFamily plan is expected to provide coverage to an additional 80,000 parents of children currently covered by Medicaid. This coverage will provide a HMO-like benefit covering outpatient care, pharmaceutical coverage, mental health and substance abuse services and limited inpatient care. Some of these people are currently required to “spend down” their personal funds on health care expenses each month before they are eligible for coverage. Under MIFamily, they will receive continuous health care coverage, greatly improving their continuity of care;
Pregnant women living in families with incomes between 186% and 200% of poverty, or approximately $21,182 to $23,980 a year. Current coverage is available to pregnant women with incomes at or below 185% of poverty. The MIFamily plan is expected to provide Medicaid coverage to an additional 2,000 pregnant women;
Single adults with no children and income of up to 35% of poverty would receive health care coverage under the MIFamily plan. These individuals are currently not eligible for Medicaid and approximately 50,000 are expected to receive MIFamily plan health care coverage including outpatient services, pharmaceutical coverage, mental health and substance abuse services or coverage through a county health plan;
Under MIFamily, counties will be encouraged to partner with the state and federal governments to provide health benefits to an additional 90,000 county residents. Currently seven counties, Wayne, Ingham, Muskegon, Genesee, Kent, Kalamazoo and Midland, participate in a pilot of this program. Over the five year life of the waiver, it is expected that remaining counties will implement this program offering a specified outpatient benefit and cover eligible county residents to 100% of poverty. Individual counties have the ability to establish what income is counted in determining eligibility
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edthepoet
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Sep 16 @ 7:34AM
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Your entitled to your opinion.
Here's are the main reason for health care reform.
It's the number one reason why people file for bankruptcy, imagine working forty or fifty year, your house is paid off, and you 20,000 in the bank, then suddenly you have a serious issue that lands you in the hospital for one month and a zillion followed up with a specialist. Bam your hit with a 650,000.00 hospital pill where they charge 40.00 for an aspirin. You loses your house and all the money you had in the bank,then you still owe 400,000. Is this what you think is right?
Let's say you even had health ins company says sorry that a pre-existing thing,or they say sorry.
Now, should we just accept everything in Obama plan or all that the reps plan, hell no. But, you can't say that the health-care situation doesn't need reform.
Why isn't the govt buying in bulk when it comes to meds?
Why do hospitals get to charge 800.00 for the exact same minor issue that a family doctor would charge 80.00 for?
Why shouldn't there be a place where people who are turned down for health-care to buy ins, I am one of them because I have diabetes, I am called a high risk.
Why shouldn't ins companies be allowed to sell ins in every state?
Why shouldn't we tighten up the tort laws?
Why shouldn't we deport any and all immigrants after they get their emergency care, or if the first doctor deems it not an emergency, refuse the care?
Why is it ok to give billions of dollars to foreign country who hate us and for unjust wars, but not help Americans here first?
Fifth teen years ago, nobody paid for their ins, there wasn't deductibles and no bs pre-existing clauses and there wasn't 60 million people without ins.
What will health-care cost you in another fifth-teen years?
Why do we give drug addicts,drunk and sex addicts free health-care,but a person who just had something bad happen to them like a heart problem...etc can't get help?
After all this and I kept this short, you can honestly say we don't need reform?
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thenewguy295
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Sep 16 @ 9:04AM
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I too would like some reasonable form of national health care but look who is going to run it? These are not people with a history of competence.
We'll end up paying for boob and nose jobs and gender reassignment procedures because someone will twist around the language in the law to allow it.
Right now the worst of it is the lack of real concrete 'what are we getting for our money' from the authors.
Have you ever been approached by a scam artist? They just keep talking and talking, they never answer your questions.
We are being scammed.
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Roverboy
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Sep 16 @ 10:17AM
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'Ya know...
I live in the People's Republic of Kalifornia, and for the last 20 years or so, this state has been giving free healthcare to all of the gazillions of illegals that flock across the border, yet the legislature sits there and wonders why the state has no money now!
They've chased out nearly all big businesses, they've raised taxes, raised fees, and have generally made this state near un-liveable. Yet, their answer is to raise taxes once again. That's why the Governator is hated so much - he said NO! Not because he's a Republican, but because the people simply can't afford it anymore.
Imagine what it'll be like when the Feds give free healthcare to everybody, and have no way to pay for it.
Healthcare will never be free - somebody's gotta cover the costs, and it's going to be us, one way or another.
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bardnsage
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Sep 16 @ 1:26PM
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Healthcare will never be free - somebody's gotta cover the costs, and it's going to be us, one way or another.
A TRUE STATEMENT. THE ARGUMENT IS WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
But since we are going to pay for it,,, one way or the other,,,,
and,,,,
In Japan.. a country whose population is quite large.. 140,000,000 .. quite old... and quite demanding of many of the tests and medical procedures we demand here .. they STILL spend half as much per person on healthcare as we do.
and,,,,
Bam your hit with a 650,000.00 hospital pill where they charge 40.00 for an aspirin.
why are not working on REFORMING THE COSTS of healthcare,,, instead of working on figuring out who is going to pay $40 for an aspirin.
Every single left proposed bill I have read,,, works on RISK FINANCING,,, not RISK CONTROL. Bottom line,,, they are stuck in the paradigm of getting the pile of money to pour into a pit of costs.
And even though the House punished Joe Wilson for his violation of rules,,, that does not mean that the crafters and marketers of this bill are not telling a lie to sell it. The biggest,,,, that if you are happy with your current plan,,, it will be available to you.
And if they are not going to tell the truth,,,,
and they are focused just on the money and not the costs,,,,
and they attack anyone who opposes the bill as a racist,,,
would you even buy a used car from these guys, nevertheless your health care. Do you really trust them to have your best interests at heart? Really?
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PeacefulGuy
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Sep 16 @ 6:28PM
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Why should it be the responsibilty of businesses to makes sure their employees have health insurance?
Employers began providing health insurance as a way to compete for workers in a tight labor market during a period of government mandated wage freezes following World War II..
What this health care plan is going to come down to is.. A Business is going to shift the responsibilty onto the government..Because providing health insurance to workers for some companies is very much a burden... Record keeping and other issues also take place for companies if the choose to do it..Instead of the hassle they will let the government do the work..Talk about red tape.. And the results will be overwhelmingly worse for those that need coverage..The government doesn't handle anything correctly..They would mess up a wet dream... What government will do foresure is cut medical cost and in doing so cut your treatment options..
How would you like the government to tell you that since you this type of cancer you can only receive this amount of anti cancer treatments..And trust me it is going to happen..
How you like the government saying sorry we don't feel you need that type of operation after you were involved in a serious accident and have extreme facial injuries..You can't have your facial injury corrected.. Because the government plan doesn't not cover such operation because of cost cuts they need..
You really don't live in the world of reality if you think cost won't skyrocket.. Most doctors will just say sorry we don't accept any government health care coverage and won't treat you unless you pay cash..If you don't pay cash sorry sucker go somewhere else.. 
Do you think a top rated a number one doctor should be paid the same as an average doctor.. With this health care plan thats what will take place..They will limit cost..which in return will limit treatment..which in return will limit your stay in the hospital...Limit your abilty to choose..and in the end limit your lifespan..
Government need to keep out of the health care business..
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Knightingale362
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Sep 25 @ 11:45AM
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Baffled by Health Care Nonsense!!!
Quite honestly, I cannot believe that a country with the best minds, finest intellects and probably the most analytical resources in the world, still have a vested interest media that simply does not present the real health care facts to it's people!
I'm not going to join the bandwagon on defending the UK's National Health Service other than to say that the statistics on child mortality, life expectancy, cost per capita and many other other performance related benchmarks is proof that when it comes to medicine, Britain and many other nations totally outperform the USA.
How totally ridiculous it is for the American media and other corporate interests to broadcast anecdotal horror stories of Canadian or UK health services when common sense demands that we acknowledge there are tragedies and mistakes in any system anywhere. But still....rather than mirror all the other legitimate protests in defence of the UK NHS, perhaps we should take another angle on some interesting facts:
Yes....for low-risk, non-critical care...one might have to wait a little longer for a hip replacement or other non-urgent surgery...but...but...if the UK adopted the American philosophy where those people with the most money or the most advantageous heath care employment package took priority...and we removed heath care from 20% of our population, refused to treat non-British nationals and turned away people with pre-existing conditions....It could be guaranteed that our waiting lists would disappear too!
The fact is that the USA is the only nation in the world that sees medicine and the health of their people to be an opportunity for profit! The first dominant society that has abandoned the ethos of Hypocrates in favour of commercial greed. Most other nations have doctors who see their career as a vocation.....a calling....and their motives are NOT driven by financial ambition. This is yet another reason that health care costs are higher in the USA.....doctors are paid far, far more! Strangely, despite this, by the accepted international ratings on national health care performance, the USA is rated 38 in global health care league tables whilst we in Britain complain about being in eighteenth place! US doctors earn a massive amount more than their European counterparts but our medical universities do not teach accountancy or profiteering but in truth....if money is a measure....the USA is not getting much bang for it's buck in the global healthcare league!
Oh well.....I doubt all this will make much of a difference to those entrenched and silly silly believers that all and everything in the USA is superior to other nations and to those who refuse to acknowledge facts rather than fiction....but....but....someone, somewhere.....should publish the reality rather than myth of National Health Care Systems and a humane approach to caring for ALL your citizens.
Yours Sincerely,
KAB (UK)
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teddybearr48
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Oct 14 @ 4:26PM
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me too
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PeacefulGuy
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Oct 15 @ 3:00PM
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SEE WHAT REAGAN HAD TO SAY ABOUT SOCIALIST HEALTH CARE..
He had Obama pegged from the grave it seems...this is a must see video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrlDlrLDSQ
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