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A new American hero has stepped up and called out the party of NO!

What a set of stones this guy has to finally have someone actually step up and support the little people for a change...way to go Congressman!!


Alan Grayson Pimp Hands The Republican Party On Health Care

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Comments:
burnslikethesun

Oct 1 @ 10:08AM  
This is worth five kudos at lease. Funny short and sweet.
What is this world coming to, Dems fighting fire with fire, and the Lions win a game!!!
it this the end of times?


legacy1

Oct 1 @ 10:10AM  
What is this world coming to, Dems fighting fire with fire, and the Lions win a game!!!
it this the end of times?

Burns I would like to think so!!
jcarolina

Oct 1 @ 10:17AM  
Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999.
hellosue2009

Oct 1 @ 10:30AM  
FINALLY someone speaks the truth! Stand tall and shout it from the rooftops. No plan from the republican party and all they want to do is stop the healthcare reform - they like the status quo since they are not the ones suffering.

We voted for change in the USA so let's get some! We are tired of the same old, same old where the rich get richer and the middle/lower get nothing.
POPO

Oct 1 @ 11:25AM  
Five Major Faults with the Health Care Bills
by Nina Owcharenko
WebMemo #2599
Current efforts by Congress to "reform" the health care system are centered on several flawed policy initiatives that will transfer more power and decisions to Washington and away from patients and families.

Rather than create a massive government-based health care system and dislocate people from their existing private coverage, policymakers should focus on putting the health care system on a path where individuals and families are in control of their health care dollars and decisions.

Shortfalls of the Health Care Bills

The following five provisions are the cornerstone of the House and Senate bills and unavoidably result in legislation taking health care reform in the wrong direction.

1. New Public Plan and Federal Exchange. Both the House and Senate bills would create a new government-run health care plan through the establishment of a federally run national health insurance exchange. The result: widespread erosion of private insurance and substantial consolidation of federal control over health care through the exchange.[1] As is evident in the details of the House bill (H.R. 3200), there is no level playing field for competition between the government plans and private health plans. Plus, the incentives in the legislation guarantee that millions of Americans will lose their existing employer-based coverage.

2. Federal Regulation of Health Insurance. Both the House and Senate bills would result in sweeping and complex federal regulation of health insurance. Moreover, it would take oversight away from states and concentrate it in Washington.[2]

3. Massive New Taxpayer-Funded Subsidies. Both the House and Senate would expand eligibility for Medicaid, but they would also extend new taxpayer-funded subsidies to the middle class. Such commitments would result in scores of Americans dependent on the government to finance their health care.[3] This is unfortunate because Congress could have reformed the tax treatment of health insurance to enable people to keep their existing private coverage and buy better private coverage if they wished to do so.

4. Employer Mandate. Both the House and Senate bills would impose an employer mandate for employers who do not offer coverage and for those whose benefits do not meet a new federal standard. An employer mandate would hurt low-income workers the most and would also stifle much-needed economic growth.[4] Employer mandates are passed on to workers in the form of reduced wages and compensation. This is exactly the wrong prescription for businesses, especially during a recession.

5. Individual Mandate. Both the House and Senate bills would require all people to buy health insurance. There is no doubt that such a mandate would result in a tax increase on individuals and families whose health insurance does not meet the new federally determined standards. This means that Congress will, for the first time, force Americans to buy federally designed packages of health benefits, even if they do not want or need those benefits.

It also means that health benefits will tend to become increasingly costly as powerful special interest groups and representatives of the health industry lobby intensively to expand the legally mandated health benefits, medical treatments and procedures, and drugs that all Americans must buy under penalty of law.

The Republicans have submitted 3 different alternitive bills for bi-partisan consideration. Alan Grayson lied on the floor... No Republican bill has ever suggested if you get sick....die quickly

Please provide proof any Republican in the house has submitted such a bill If no proof is submitted then this too is a Lie..

legacy1

Oct 1 @ 11:32AM  
No Republican bill has ever suggested if you get sick....die quickly

What he is saying hey republicans...quit sitting on your damn hands-(like always) and let's get something done. While they sit on said ass and hands...people are dying. The same old same old....and who profits from all of this?

With the republican party it's like asking my dad when I was a kid for $20 bucks..NO!
Can I borrow the car..NO!

Can my friends come over..NO!

Shit, like Congressman Grayson, I quit asking and starting doing....and ever since I haven't been home!
hellosue2009

Oct 1 @ 11:39AM  
provide proof any Republican in the house has submitted such a bill

Yes, please provide the 3 bills you refer to; otherwise doing nothing is the same thing as letting people get sick and die.
MrPaul

Oct 1 @ 12:20PM  
POPO They just dont get it They are to busy sucking on the teat of the goverment programs.
Josuha

Oct 1 @ 12:35PM  
Arguing democrat and republican is like arguing typhoid and smallpox.
Vote Libertarian.
POPO

Oct 1 @ 12:36PM  
What he is saying hey republicans...quit sitting on your damn hands-(like always) and let's get something done. While they sit on said ass and hands...people are dying. The same old same old....and who profits from all of this?

"People are Dying" makes for a great sound bite... But people are dying with health care insurance, it's against the law for someone to be turned away from a hospital if their dying, they don't throw them out in the street to die. Could things be different and better? absolutely! but the American people deserve a plan that compliments our health care system, not complicate it or dismattle it, nor create more debt then we already can't pay back.

With the republican party it's like asking my dad when I was a kid for $20 bucks..NO!
Can I borrow the car..NO!

Can my friends come over..NO!

Shit, like Congressman Grayson, I quit asking and starting doing....and ever since I haven't been home!

If the Democrat party followed your plan of action, they would have passed HR3200 along time ago, they have the majority vote and do not need the republicans to give a thumbs up to pass it. The conflict of passing it, lies within the Democrat party their not all on board with it.Plus they know many will loose their seats if the American people are not happy with their vote. It's the American people majority and the Dems stopping HR3200 from passing not the Republicans.

Based on what I have read thus far Republicans don't want to add more debt to this nation. I'm hard pressed to believe the Democrat party is so caring and loving and concerned about saving life in America, when they passed a bill called Roe V.Wade that has killed 40 million babies thus far and counting. 40,000 dying a year without health insurance dying if that's true? is a drop in a bucket of water compared to 1 million babies being killed a year with government funding. Seems to me to be double talk




dwmnhuntsville

Oct 1 @ 12:52PM  
well said POPO
AverageJoe

Oct 1 @ 1:47PM  
This guy is just a windbag! If you want to talk about a good Democrat you should talk about Byron Dorgen of North Dakota. He is attempting to add legislation to the health care bill that would allow us to purchase Canadian drugs at discount prices... as everyone else in the World does. However, Harry Reid one of the Democrats "three stooges" is blocking the measure saying only "this is not the proper time to discuss this issue". What Harry really means is that Obama has made a dirty deal with the drug companies... in exchange for support of his health plan and 80 billion dollars, Obama will allow the drug companies to continue to ripp us off with inflated rates for prescription drugs!!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iaQOMCQ1dpwWu8ux2Nx44Gu6RAqA
POPO

Oct 1 @ 2:34PM  
Yes, please provide the 3 bills you refer to; otherwise doing nothing is the same thing as letting people get sick and die.

Sue,
The information your requesting is online for all to see, rather then expecting me to do your research, you would be better served seeking out that which you don't know on your own In the process it will allow you, to see both sides of the debate, rather then having us have to explain it to you.

Out of respect for Legacy's post, it would be rude for me to turn this into a posting of Republican Bills...I'm sure you can appreciate staying on topic

People get sick and die everyday around the world, it's not just those without insurance who die. Using your logic...."One Million Babies" are killed each year in the USA by abortion, because those on the left are doing nothing to prevent this.
Is that what you mean by saying this?
otherwise doing nothing is the same thing as letting people get sick and die


I'm trying to understand your arguement?
legacy1

Oct 1 @ 8:43PM  
This guy is just a windbag! If you want to talk about a good Democrat you should talk about Byron Dorgen of North Dakota. He is attempting to add legislation to the health care bill that would allow us to purchase Canadian drugs at discount prices... as everyone else in the World does. However, Harry Reid one of the Democrats "three stooges" is blocking the measure saying only "this is not the proper time to discuss this issue".

Joe please not forget that Shrub tried blocking this back also when he was Pres.

http://www.suddenlysenior.com/canadastoprx.html

They are to busy sucking on the teat of the goverment programs.

As usual adds nothing of substance to any kind of argument...and for the the record we are adults here...we can use the word tit and not go Eh eh eh Like Beavis & Butthead

The conflict of passing it, lies within the Democrat party their not all on board with it.Plus they know many will loose their seats if the American people are not happy with their vote.

True Popo and again they are putting politics before the people....

And the best they-(Right wing) can up with is for Grayson to issue some appology on the floor for calling them out.

bardnsage

Oct 1 @ 11:01PM  
You mean this guy....

Grayson's town hall,,,,



Perhaps he should search the republican bills and ammendments that got killed in committee by the DEMOCRATS.

He's just the "whip",,, following the scripted playbook,,,,just like his town hall meeting.

I want to see a plan worthy to stand on it's own merits,, and not need a bunch of snake oil to slide it down.

DEMS,,, pandering to the loosers of life in society,,, and passing laws to make more of them.
POPO

Oct 2 @ 9:59AM  
True Popo and again they are putting politics before the people....

Legacy....from everything I have seen and read on this, It's The People (the majority) that are against it. So the politicians are putting the People before politics, not politics before the people as they should, and fear of being without a job.

Obama and the Dem Congress are trying their level best to force a bill on the people and may succeed, inspite of the resistence, (they have a behind the scenes plan) as they are of the opinion, they know what's better for the people then the people do. Seems to me their lack of support for this insane bill, only further encourages them to try and berate and belittle their opposition, rather then making case for why it's such a great idea to force this on those who are against it.

For those who say the Republican party, is the party of No, is at the very least, amusing and comical, I thought the whole reason why the left hated Bush, was because he and the right were the party of "yes" yes to tax cuts, regulations, banking, corporations, wars, wall street, big business, oil, drilling here, drilling now. You know all the things that are condusive to Capitalism.
hellosue2009

Oct 2 @ 10:11AM  
I tried to research it and cannot find it - its why I asked. No need to be so condescending when we are participating....
POPO

Oct 2 @ 11:00AM  
Sue, I'm not sure how you search or why you can't seem to find anything on this as there are many sites that clearly show HR-3400 here's one of many...

Empowering Patients First Act – Republican Bill Held Up in 8 Committees
The Democrats’ mantric claim that the Republicans have not offered any solutions of their own is pure poppycock. The Democrat-sponsored "America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009" (H.R. 3200) is not the only proposed health care bill submitted for Congressional consideration, but the major media networks are not giving equal air time to the Republican-sponsored alternative. Speaker Pelosi has repeatedly stated that Democrats would consider reasonable alternatives if offered by the other side, all the while not acknowledging the existence of H.R. 3400, "The Empowering Patients First Act", arguably the better-written and more cost-effective bill of the two. Clearly Pelosi and her gaggle of radical left-wing sycophants do not want the American people to know that the Republican bill exists and that’s why they have it safely buried under the weight of not one, but eight different committees. See the full text of the bill here: H. R. 3400

http://whovotedhow.com/h-r-3400-gop-sponsored-health-care-bill/

Now you know the rest of the story.... The story Pelosi and the Dems don't want you to know.

I wasn't being condescending.... I was encouraging you to re-search behind the headlines of the lap dog media BS. and the liars in Congress who have said the Republicans have done nothing, other then say No! That's a flat out lie.. and yes they should apologize to the American people for being liars, Joe Wilson called it right when he said "You Lie" and they knew that.

Loren62

Oct 2 @ 11:00AM  
What he is saying hey republicans...quit sitting on your damn hands-(like always) and let's get something done. While they sit on said ass and hands...people are dying. The same old same old....and who profits from all of this?

The Democrats DON'T need the Republicans for anything. If this Health Care ABORTION you fools are begging for is so grand...then, the Liberals on the Hill can thrust this thing on through.

The trouble doesn't reside on the Republican side...it resides with the moderate Democrats who know darn well a vote for this mess is a vote of unemployment for them most likely during the next election.

Clean your OWN house up before you start accusing the status of others!
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