So I just finished making dinner a couple hours ago, when I get a knock on my door. There's a woman standing there who asks me to sign a legal document from the DMV for a car I sold to a different woman last year. She says that the first woman never re-titled the car, and when she sold it to the 2nd woman, had whited out the info I wrote on it and put the new womans info instead, she even whited out the price I had sold it for and put a much lower amount.
So this paper she wants me to sign has these little boxes the check and sign saying I agree that the info is true, and that I sold her the car. I told this woman that I could not sign it since I did not sell her the car directly, and that she needed to have the other woman sign it instead. She claims that the DMV told her that since the 1st woman whited out her own info, I had to sign it since there was no proof the 1st woman was the one I originally sold the car to. I refused on the grounds that I would then be the one falsifying info! So I turned it over, and wrote what I knew and the date I sold it with my name and number if the DMV wanted to contact me about it.
This just ticked me off to no end! I was a victim myself when my ex stole my car, forged the title and sold the car, then after years of delay, got a slap on the wrist. 2nd of all, I was annoyed that supposedly the DMV wanted ME to commit a crime by signing that form so an idiot could get away with not titling the car and paying the fees/taxes. And 3rd I am annoyed that she was driving this car for 8 months while it was still legally in MY name! Not to mention no legal plates on it. If there had been an accident or anything I could possibly have been held liable until they got it all figured out, but it would still end up being be on my record either way. And then I got to eat my dinner half cold,,, ick.
Argh! Some days it just doesn't pay to answer the door!
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summerbreeze916

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Oct 12 @ 9:35PM
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I agree with you. I would have done the same thing. You left your number, so if the DMV needs to call.....they will. It's a good thing the first woman did NOT ever get stopped or ever was in a car accident. What a mess that would have been!
Argh! Some days it just doesn't pay to answer the door! ........or answer the phone...........or get up out of bed.........
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RightWingRepublican

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Oct 12 @ 9:54PM
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Glad you were smart enough to realize what you were about to sign. Most people would have never thought twice. You saved yourself some future trouble i think.
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ttomtarr

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Oct 12 @ 10:03PM
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The fine print on the title gives an address where you can notify the state, by mail, that the vehicle or vessel has been sold. It is well worth the stamp and ten minutes writing to get yourself officially OFF the hook.
I have seen boat owners held responsible for removing sunken boats (with $15,000 fuel removal fee) under similar circumstances, where the vessel was never transferred to the new owner..
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Fender

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Oct 12 @ 10:31PM
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That is nut's...I'm glad you didn't listen to her though!
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beckyiv42000

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Oct 13 @ 12:54AM
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Most states have a form you have to fill out and file with the DMV when you sell a car.. for your OWN protection... it states who and when you sold the car to the person you sold it to ..its so that IF they do get a ticket or get in an accident and they have NOT registered the car in their name or changed title you are NOT responsible for it... BUt if you dont fill this paper out.. yep you can be held responsible... Im glad you didnt SIGN anything...but I would try to get a copy of the bill of sale ( something you should always keep too) to show the DMV... good luck
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ladyvampire

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Oct 13 @ 2:16AM
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I would have done the same, and then called dmv to let them know .
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GotMeOneNow

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Oct 13 @ 8:46AM
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I went through my papers (thank goodness I keep everything), and I found that I saved a photocopy of the title that she signed, AND my son being thorough also made a copy of her DL. I will call the DMV today and ask if they need a copy faxed to the state office. I hope they make her pay all the fees she avoided!!!
To be honest I feel sorry for the new owner at this point. That car had issues and would die without warning for whatever reason, which is why I sold it in t he first place. So the new owner I bet didn't do any repairs, and now this new person is stuck with a car that has issues she doesn't know about.
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Roverboy

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Oct 13 @ 8:53AM
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Did you file a "release of liability" form with the DMV after you sold the car? You should have.
Once they have this little piece of paper (which should be filed with them immediately after the car is sold), the car is no longer your problem.
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thenewguy295

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Oct 13 @ 11:52AM
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In our state it's up to the buyer to take the paperwork to the Sec of state's office and get their name on the title. Totally open to abuse and the seller is left on the hook if the buyer decides to abandon the car etc. At least that's how it used to be. If they changed it I'd totally approve.
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GotMeOneNow

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Oct 13 @ 8:24PM
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Spoke to the SMV people less than 2 hours after I sent am email, must be a record! She said that they can get it all worked out, but the middle person is gonna have to pony up for ALL the fees she never paid in the first place, including plate fees for a plate she wont even be using. The biotch totally deserves to get screwed for that one!
And if it all goes well, the new owner will be able to title it pretty fast and be able to drive by next week. That is if she can get is started! The car is a POS which is why I sold it in the first place. Kinda feel sorry for her since I am sure the person I sold to didnt do any of the work. Sigh
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