Wing_Zero_75

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Oct 26 @ 12:22PM
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Its a shame we couldnt execute them. Get these ............. waste of elements off the planet. A dead pedophile cant hurt a child. EVER.
Larry
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MrPaul

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Oct 26 @ 12:28PM
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So true, and so sad
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travelwoman

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Oct 26 @ 12:39PM
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I'm not fan of the death penalty. But I think it wouldn't hurt to get Alcatraz going again. Or maybe dump those monsters on a deserted island. Give them food, shelter, basic medical.... and otherwise turn the back on them (but make sure they cannot escape...)
Yet.... even with that, our kids wouldn't be safe. There seems to be an unlimited supply of predators....
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john49887

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Oct 26 @ 12:58PM
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I think the legal system is partly at fault, by not locking predators up for good (= forEVER!) It's called job security. Lock them up and the system wouldn't need so many prosecutors. By releasing the offenders, defense attorneys are assured future income when these scumbags are re-arrested for the same crime. It's sad to say but it is all about the almighty dollar. Any way you slice it, we as a society all lose. Taxpayers foot the bill, usually, for defending the predators. Then add the cost of incarceration which is estimated at $25,000.00 to $45,000.00 per year. Little thought, if any, is given to the victim and the family. The entire legal system is sick and in need of drastic repair.
There are and always will be evil people in this world and all the talk of ethics, morality, and TV programing will not change that fact.
I'm not fan of the death penalty. Whatever your views on the death penalty, one thing is certain; the executed offender will NEVER harm another child.
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travelwoman

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Oct 26 @ 1:08PM
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john....
Whatever your views on the death penalty, one thing is certain; the executed offender will NEVER harm another child. I know, and I'm very tempted to review my values, believe me. I DO think that I'm totally capable of killing a child molester if I knew he'd put his filthy hands on my child.... And I don't think I would give it a second thought...
Yes, there were evil people, too, when I was a kid. But not so many! Did you ever pull up a map from the "American watch dog" that shows you all the convicted child molesters in your area? Try it out.... you'll see the totally mind-boggling numbers.
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WSOR

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Oct 26 @ 1:21PM
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I'm all for the Alcatraz idea. Prison Islands in some of the iciest, & snowiest waters off Alaska, complete with slow tortures.
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bluewind37

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Oct 26 @ 1:25PM
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I support the death penalty in cases involving 1st degree murder, and, pedophiles. After what my niece was put through at the hands of a pedophile......I don't particularly like the knowledge my tax dollars are providing that monster with shelter and food.
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sawduster

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Oct 26 @ 1:32PM
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i for one do not mind the death penalty for many types of crimes. pedophilia being one of them i highly recommend it for. on a dollars and sense note, even a life of imprisonment is too good for them. with all the legal motions, new trials, medical from being (boo hoo) abused by the straight population, therapy, and the rest of the bs, not many of us can live that good a life. and the taxpayers pay for it.
and there are many places to point fingers, i agree with that too. the only thing that can really be done with the ones that start this is to detect them early in life, if possible, if not, do not let them live long enough to get a parole, as being "cured". and make people responsible for their own actions, quit making excuses for everything they do wrong. no one should be let off just because they _______________. (fill in the blank with what ever lame excuse you want.)
and ask the next bleeding heart liberal if they want one of them living in their home with their kids. see what kind of response you get.
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bardnsage

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Oct 26 @ 1:35PM
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I don't remember hearing of monsters when I was a kid. And yet,, they were there. Your mom told you all kind of rules, that addressed this situation,, without blowing up your childhood.
Stay away from ______'s house, Don't talk or take anything from strangers, Stay in Mrs. Johnson's yard, Stay with your friends, Be back before dark, Take the dog.
These were adequate, for most situations. Of course, we had one defense mechanism that our "modern" society does not have.
Courage.
Courage to get involved if you saw someone putting a kid in a car. Courage to challenge a stranger in the neighborhood. Courage to discipline kids, even those that were not our own, so that EVERYONE KNEW WHO WAS WHERE and WHO WAS WATCHING. Courage to meet our neighbors, and take responsiblity of action,,, rather than avoid the confrontation and law suits and shut ourselves up behind the walls of "it was none of our business."
40 years ago, if someone had given an excuse for not helping a kid that went,,, "I didn't want to get involved,,, blah, blah, blah,,," they would have been excommunicated from the neighborhood. Now, we excommunicate ourselves from the neighborhood, because of social fears and overdependance on the police and government to substitute for our personal lack of courage.
We place the responsiblity of action on the police, and the police alone. Even in the schools, we have shirked the responsibility of action and child raising discipline to the "SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER". What a shame.... because all they can really do is enforce the wirtten law. They can not raise, educate, and provide consequences of actions for small course corrections required before something becomes a problem. This is micro model of what we have done in society as a whole.
There have always been monsters. They have always been with us. They have always balanced their fear of consequences against the lust of thier mental illness. The balance appears gone,,, as consquences are never swift,,, and never sure.
We had a monster in my neighborhood growing up. My dad,,, and the other dad's,,, went over to visit before the sun came up. I guess they convinced him to move, or join a live in support group or something,,, because we never saw him again, and a couple of months later some people came and cleaned out his house.
Funny,,,, the sheriff asked a few questions,,, but not many.
If you do find a "problem" around your kids,,, handle it. Years later, when I was watching my kids work on break aways and throat stikes,, my dad said,,,
"Knowing I had followed the law, would have given little comfort beside the grave of my child."
I've never forgotten that. And being the selfish conservative mean spirited SOB that I am,,, I see the logic in his old fashioned simple wisdom. Don't wait for something bad to happen before you act, unless you can live with the bad thing that happens. He could not, and I can not.
Was dad a radical crazy,,, I guess if you've never burried a child,,, yeah,,, he was a radical crazy. But I never had to listen to him, my mom, the police, or any other adult apologize to me for what some creeper had done to me. I never had to spend countless hours in counseling to make sure I was healed, and not a danger to other kids or my own kids. I never had to listen to mom cry, as her nightmares about what had happend to me, made her feel like a failure as a mom.
As far as I am concerned, a little more radical crazy might be just the ticket.
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Wing_Zero_75

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Oct 26 @ 1:39PM
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By executing these wastes, we the tax payer dont have to support their ass's. At least the Hussein brothers had the right idea about over crowded prisoners. Take them out, shoot, throw into mass grve, repeat. What these sick f*ckers do to children is a fate worse than death. At least if we executed them, we could honestly tell the children that the monster that hurt them will never do so again.
Now for a deterant. I saw we have public exectuions. Stone them to death. Make it as painful and humiliating as possible. Mybe then the next would be child molester would think about the consequences of their actions. Better yet, leave the bodies there as a warning sign to everyone else.
Yeah its brutal, but I stick by good old Niccolo.
Larry
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travelwoman

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Oct 26 @ 1:48PM
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Bard....
There have always been monsters. They have always been with us. They have always balanced their fear of consequences against the lust of thier mental illness. The balance appears gone,,, as consquences are never swift,,, and never sure. I know of two cases directly (from the mothers of the molested children) where the perpetrator got away with.... 2 years of prison. Since they had already served six or more months before the trial, AND since they got parole... ( ) they were back on the street in no time flat.
I would think it would be helpful to put those child molesters with the general prison population.... Why give them special treatment? ... for the special inflicted horror to their helpless victims?
And, yes, there were monsters when we were kids. But families watched them. Neighbors watched them. They knew better than to really try. There was one old man in the neighborhood who liked to give candy to the children. My mom told me not to take the candy. I never knew if he was a monster or not....
Wing-Zero... I don't think public stoning is right. It w/could create other kinds of "lust" in immoral people....
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travelwoman

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Oct 26 @ 1:54PM
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WSOR
I'm right with you...
Do you think "they" will ever do such a thing? I doubt it... Like our children are not worth the trouble or something...
bluewin and sawduster...
Yes, it is a scandal...
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moon_watcher53

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Oct 26 @ 3:33PM
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I've read somewhere "Once you overcome the fear of living, you will overcome the fear of death !! I suppose it really works both ways.
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RANDY72

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Oct 26 @ 4:51PM
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We only have ourselves to blame for what is happening . There is no one else responsible for our dilema. These things did not just sneak up on us to bite us on the rear end this year or the year before. This has been going on for many years and the problem has been growing by leaps and bounds right before our very eyes. Complacency has its price and you got to pay when you least expect it.This reminds me of what we have going on in the government.
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1frantastic

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Oct 26 @ 5:48PM
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and most grownups around only had to give "the eye" to a child doing something out of order back in the "old-days" and the child straightend up...now days...kids think it is their right...nay...duty to aggravate grown-ups.....
I still give "the evil-eye" to misbehaving kids....it's all I am allowed to do...but at least I am trying......
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travelwoman

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Oct 27 @ 11:36AM
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moon_watcher...
Philosophy won't do any good to a child that's being molested.... It only works for grown-ups.... and only in the "theoretical" world...
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dizzydoll

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Oct 28 @ 3:42PM
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Its time to stop this BS doll. Its gone on too bloody long
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