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It should not be a big deal but it is. Do you know I searched and nobody on this thing has put atheist on their profile? Not anybody that's been here in a long time. Sad.

People freak out with the mention of the word. know there are many, I believe many tens of thousands, who say that and I have FB friends who do but in places like this it seems like a death sentence. How sad.

I was a religious zealot once. I threw decades of my life away trying to figure out what some non-existent god wanted me to do. I prayed and lay on my face and talked funny and sang and preached and all the time sank into a muddle of sadness because nothing ever worked. Then my dad died and I got so pissed at god for doing that, taking him away, and then over time I got to thinking how stupid that was. Then I got to looking at the rest of my religion and saw it was stupid too. A guy lived in a fish for three days, really? And a few of all the animals of earth walked to a boat in the middle east and lived there in the boat? Really?

Then there's all the hateful killing in the OT, god happy with murder and genocide in a way that makes Hitler look like a boy scout. Yeah, I got over my programming. Then I saw the Hubble Deep Space Survey, that there's millions of GALAXIES out there. No, nothing "created" that.

That's a nutshell. Anybody can believe what they want. Worship an invisible nobody, a tree, a rock formation, whatever. It's your right. It's mine to not believe in any of it.

But you know people were nicer to me in this christian country when I was a practicing Buddhist after I left christianity. I can say, "I'm Buddhist" and that's cool. I can be hindu or even muslim, ok, but to believe in nobody? I'm crazy, I should be shot, I should be run out of the country.

No, I should not. I am born here, I am just as American as anyone else, and I have the same rights.

And I'm not such a coward that I'm afraid to say who I am.

So maybe I'll be alone and lonely. That will suck. But at least I'm real, which is more than anyone can prove of any deity.

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Comments:
fred605

Oct 6 @ 6:01PM  
Brother U,
verily I beist ye Viking,
before that I beist ye,
lion tamer.
How can being ye atheist,
compare to that!

God bless thee,
brother U.
Fayvorite

Oct 6 @ 6:14PM  
A guy lived in a fish for three days, really? And a few of all the animals of earth walked to a boat in the middle east and lived there in the boat? Really?

Oh and don't forget it all began with a talking snake and an apple!

I can't say I'm an atheist because I do believe in what I can't explain, like the paranormal or spirits or other dimensions or aliens or hell I'm wide open in believing in more than I can understand.

This is a great conversation to have over a fine bottle of wine with someone.




uniqueme436

Oct 6 @ 6:25PM  
You got it, Fayvorite.

There's a misconception about what an atheist is. An atheist is just someone who does not believe in a creator. When it comes to spooky stuff and spirits and whatever, who knows? There's evidence of that. I just can't accept christianity or the other yahweh folks, and it's silly to think someone "created" this place.

Fred, you're just odd. lol
smoothassilk

Oct 6 @ 7:03PM  
I feel everyone should have a faith of some form.

I'm not deeply religious but I believe in fate..a soul is to strong to destroy upon death.I feel that there is something out there in the sunset,the horizon for each of us as individuals to experience on our own terms.

Upon my moms passing..I found an old bible of hers and in the back page,written in her perfect hand writing...

NEVER DOUBT IN THE DARKNESS WHAT GOD HAS TOLD YOU IN THE LIGHT

Amen
fred605

Oct 6 @ 7:06PM  
Verily brother U,
I beist odd,
but in truth I believest in,
ye creator,
how did it all start?
By itself, all chance?
And whatever started it,
could not have hadist ye beginning,
for then something,
wouldest have had to create it,
therefore ye creator hath no beginning,
can ye conceive of such?

Look verily at ye universe,
see the intelligence of it's order?
beist it random?
I think not, there beist a creator,
to not believe is foolishness.

What beist thy purpose?
to live then die?
Verily it beist to find,
thy creator in thine,
own way.
To not attempt this,
maketh thine life meaningless.

God bless thee,
brother U.
LOVER17

Oct 6 @ 8:22PM  
I searched and nobody on this thing has put atheist on their profile? Not anybody that's been here in a long time. Sad
No, what's sad is people who don't have faith and who don't believe in God!
znselenide

Oct 6 @ 8:40PM  
I feel everyone should have a faith of some form.

I do! I have faith in myself!!


Wing_Zero_75

Oct 6 @ 10:00PM  
Im a nihilist and believe in nothing. When you define what god is, you come up with, an answer to explain natural phenomenon that we didnt understand as a primitive race. I am a strict determinist and even find the concept of free will as absolutely laughable.

Larry
drcocktail

Oct 6 @ 11:29PM  
AMEN.i
DiamondRain

Oct 7 @ 1:48AM  
Why do atheists presume to not have a religion? I find that 95% of them worship at the alter of hating other peoples' religions. That's their religion. It's a religion of hate.

This blogger is a perfect example. Dripping with hate for other peoples' beliefs and thinking he is somehow elevated by rejecting them.
uniqueme436

Oct 7 @ 2:03AM  
Ms Diamondrain, that's the silliest thing I've ever heard. I don't hate anything. I think religious people hate me because I don't buy into their delusion.

Why should I hate someone for believing something I don't. I don't care. Why is it christians think about hate so much? I just don't understand such judgmental attitudes.

Whatever, I go to sleep perfectly content. No ulcers from guilt, no tears for being a sinner, no heartache for loosing most of my friends to a ...you know, burning hell place.

No, I don't hate. I feel very sorry for religious people who is supposed to love everybody but say ugly things like you do. What would Jesus say?
DiamondRain

Oct 7 @ 2:09AM  
Again you presume too much. I am not a "religious person."

You hatred is obvious in your flippant, summary dismissal of the possibility of a God. You are as dogmatic in your rejection as those that you criticize are in their acceptance.

I threw decades of my life away trying to figure out what some non-existent god wanted me to do.
uniqueme436

Oct 7 @ 2:17AM  
I guess maybe you have hatred so you think everybody does?

Hell, I don't know, you just sound weird. There is no creator god. It's an absurd notion. I have no doubt. Of course, if there is one all he has to do is show me proof and I'll change my view.

The quote you put on that comment is absolutely right. I did.

So whatever, what else you gonna go wacky about? It's keeping me entertained, anyway.
DiamondRain

Oct 7 @ 2:24AM  
I think what I find most annoying about liberals -- and there are so many things to choose from -- is that every one of them is passive aggressive. They viciously attack anyone who doesn't share their beliefs, and then play the victim. It's so predictable and boorish.
uniqueme436

Oct 7 @ 2:34AM  
You're just odd, ma'am. How you get that from anything I said is beyond me. I'm not a liberal, not in the strict sense. I'm a nonconformist. Not that it matters at all.

I guess you just needed someone to whup'up on and I was handy, huh? Does it feel good?

So you know what ms. Rain? I think you're f***ing nuts and I don't care about you enough to hate you. I don't care if you hate me or not. I've been hated and it didn't bother me a damn bit. I like me. That's what matters to me. Other people have been crazy enough to like me and one or two loves me. Weird but true.

Amazing, huh?
Pompoms

Oct 7 @ 2:36AM  
I was a religious zealot once. I threw decades of my life away trying to figure out what some non-existent god wanted me to do.

Your whole blog is entertaining. I am so happy you joined blogland.

kudo worthy too.
uniqueme436

Oct 7 @ 2:38AM  
Thank ya PomPoms
Pompoms

Oct 7 @ 2:39AM  
Larry
I am a strict determinist and even find the concept of free will as absolutely laughable.


Sometimes that seems plausible to me.
Pompoms

Oct 7 @ 2:44AM  
So you know what ms. Rain? I think you're f***ing nuts and I don't care about you enough to hate you.

but why accuse him of being a woman? Damn a woman is always more intelligent than a man.

I am loving your blogs.
kornbluth

Oct 7 @ 2:46AM  
Then there's all the hateful killing in the OT, god happy with murder and genocide in a way that makes Hitler look like a boy scout.

If that's what the creator-god is like, then we're all doomed. I see no advantage in believing that, but it doesn't make me an atheist. An athiest KNOWS there is no god. I don't know that, so I'm agnostic.

Then I saw the Hubble Deep Space Survey, that there's millions of GALAXIES out there. No, nothing "created" that

Then where did it all come from? Then where did THAT come from? "Creation" is something from nothing. The modern, highly-sophisticated scientific nomenclature for that is "Big Bang." How sophisticated can you get? About as far as Thomas Aquinas 700 years ago. He argued that if we can agree that there must have been a First Cause -- that's IF -- then we can call it God. But that does not necessarily mean that this First Cause micro-manages human and geological affairs on this planet and thousands of others in newly-discovered solar systems.
uniqueme436

Oct 7 @ 3:00AM  
Pompoms you're such a dear!

Kornbluth... that's an odd name, but anyway, yeah, read up on some of the things the old testament god did and got other folks to do. Really nasty stuff.

As far as I am able to know anything, yeah, I know there's no creator. Where did it come from? Who knows. We're teeny little people on an obscure planet with only a few centuries of science lost in a universe so massive there's no way to even comprehend it. I just sigh at the thought and move on.
Pompoms

Oct 7 @ 3:10AM  
You are a positive force in blogland, and able to hold your own better than I can because you are much more eloquent than me.
Pompoms

Oct 7 @ 4:02AM  
You and Jim will probably get along because you are both atheists, but I can't help wondering, you should be open to the concept of "a soul" whose sole purpose is to learn..
moon_watcher53

Oct 7 @ 10:12AM  

Then where did it all come from? Then where did THAT come from? "Creation"
is something from nothing. The modern, highly-sophisticated scientific
nomenclature for that is "Big Bang."

What is so terrible in accepting that THE UNIVERSE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR
TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF YEARS ??
When man became able to connect various thoughts into one concept, he spent
a lot of time on his back while attempting to make something out of the arrangement
of the stars and clouds that were passing overhead as he tended his sheep !!
Those dreamers are still alive and well as they use FEAR OF A BURNING LAKE
OF FIRE to use to convince the masses there was a "fairy in the sky" who watched
our every move and wrote it all down in the LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE !!
Misguided fools will always be around to predict the future while losing their Illgotten
gains in the Stock Markets.......a good example of this is ms.Rain !!

Go spend some time on your back and visualize how life could be if you in fact
were THE leader of the entire population !!
eastham

Oct 7 @ 10:47AM  
As far as religion or lack thereof goes, I believe in God and the first amendment. We do not have an established church in the US. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want or disbelieve. It is when we don't think of others or step on people's philosophical toes that we get in trouble. As Pope Francis said, fundamentalism and rigid thinking are best avoided.
hypnomaster007

Oct 7 @ 1:44PM  
Why do atheists presume to not have a religion? I find that 95% of them worship at the alter of hating other peoples' religions. That's their religion. It's a religion of hate.

This blogger is a perfect example. Dripping with hate for other peoples' beliefs and thinking he is somehow elevated by rejecting them.

Oh, Diamond!

Project much?

By the way, you misspelled "altar."

I read the original poster's statement. Let's summarize his major points, shall we?

1. He's an atheist.

2. He's surprised and a bit hurt that many people respond to such an admission
with such venom.

3. He used to be religious, and, after a painful life experience and a closer look
at the particular myths of his religion, he decided it wasn't for him anymore.

4. He's not convinced there's a creator.

5. Other folks can believe whatever they wish, and he should be afforded the
same freedom.

6. People treated him better when he told them he was a Buddhist than they do
now when he says he's an atheist.

7. He's prepared to deal with rabid responses because this is a genuine belief of
his and he wants to stand by it.

That's what the guy said. I don't see much of a subtext, no set of underlying meanings.

Here's what you said again:

Why do atheists presume to not have a religion? I find that 95% of them worship at the alter of hating other peoples' religions. That's their religion. It's a religion of hate.

You're statement implies that you know - at a minimum - twenty atheists. Really?
And 19 of these atheists you know worship at the altar (fixed it for you) of hating other peoples' religions. So you've listened to them extensively, read their work, debated with them, etc. and that led you to your stunning statistical conclusion. Right?

Or you just made up a dumb fvcking statistic on the fly in a flagrantly pathetic attempt to make your case.

Let's finish off with your closing:

This blogger is a perfect example. Dripping with hate for other peoples' beliefs and thinking he is somehow elevated by rejecting them.

Uh, no. That's YOU, Diamond, you cold, hard, pointy, 200 carat conservative
jewel of gleaming lunacy. And I can prove it.


Just a couple of posts later you wrote this:

I think what I find most annoying about liberals -- and there are so many things to choose from -- is that every one of them is passive aggressive. They viciously attack anyone who doesn't share their beliefs, and then play the victim. It's so predictable and boorish.

Like I asked earlier: Project much?

As for me, I grew up Catholic. Now I'm an atheist. So now you know 21 of us.

Amen.

ion_quest

Oct 7 @ 1:53PM  
It's the states.
The number of Britons who say they have no religion has hit a record high, new data has revealed.

More than half of the British public (53 per cent) say they are not at all religious – a figure that has increased by five percentage points since 2015 and by 19 percentage points since 1983, when just three in 10 people deemed themselves non-religious.

I can't quite discount the possibility of a creator, however remote. Call me agnostic.
Some will use religion to try and manipulate. You've already seen it here. Don't bite. There's no nutritional value.

Kudos
Pompoms

Oct 7 @ 1:53PM  
Hot topic but in fact it has nothing to do with anyone what we believe.
ttomtarr

Oct 7 @ 1:55PM  
Atheists are amusing people. They identify themselves by what they do NOT believe in.

I don't believe in dragons, but I am not an Adragonist. Neither am I an Aflyingpiggist. Have never been an Aflatearthist either.

I have positive values in my life, and I somewhat identify by those. I would be sad if all I had was things I don't believe in.

It has been my experience that when people are proud of what they don't do, there is an awful lot of things that they haven't done.
hypnomaster007

Oct 7 @ 2:37PM  
Hey ttomtarr,

Just curious:

Do you believe in Zeus? How about Poseidon? Thor? Loki?

The Egyptian god Horus? The Indian god Hanuman?

I'm guessing - correct me if I'm wrong - that you are an atheist with respect to those gods and the religions that are associated with their worship.

I'm guessing you do not run around your neck of the woods telling all you meet, "Good news, brothers and sisters. I am not a devotee of the Indian monkey god Hanuman."

Because if you did, now that would be amusing.

So, we atheists just go one god further in our unbelief.

Religious belief is overwhelmingly a product of where you were born and how you were raised. Simple as that.

Pompoms

Oct 7 @ 2:44PM  
Religious belief is overwhelmingly a product of where you were born and how you were raised. Simple as that.

True. Until you start to question.
moon_watcher53

Oct 7 @ 5:30PM  
Religious belief is overwhelmingly a product of where you were born
and how you were raised. Simple as that.

Wish I'd been born at the Vatican (World's longest playing Ponzi) !!

Oh wait, bet those nuns are not allowed to get PREGO !! Or.....are they ??
ttomtarr

Oct 7 @ 5:59PM  
I grew up in a North Eastern industrial city. Many people were displaced persons from World War II, people who lost their homes, family, all possessions, and didn't even know what happened to it all. In the swirl of war, it all just disappeared. They made their way to America, and started over, never knowing what had become of their husbands, wives, children or parents.

Many of these people's lives were held together by their faith, often Catholicism for the Poles, Italians, and many others. It was the only thing they could cling to, in the face of total loss, the one continuation from their prewar lives. While I do not share their faith, it would take a far crueler man that I am, to attack their faith, the one thing that enables them to deal with the loss of all they loved and held dear, often that kept them from giving up, or suicide.

I don't discuss my beliefs or philosophy with strangers. I will just say that your expressed ideas of me are vastly oversimplified. Also, my beliefs have made major changes over the years, based on experience, contemplation, and study. I recommend all 3 to you.
hypnomaster007

Oct 7 @ 6:42PM  
I notice you didn't have the slightest problem proclaiming that atheists are "amusing" because they identify themselves based on not believing in something. And you later imply that the beliefs of atheists are not shaped by "experience, contemplation, and study." The tone of your remarks about atheists was somewhere between indulgent - those silly atheists - and scornful.

The only thing I expressed about you was my speculation that you were an atheist when it came to a pantheon of deities likely ignored by you because you never had any real exposure to them. I even invited you to correct me if I was wrong,

You didn't.

My point that we are all atheists with regard to many, many deities of different times and cultures stands.

Your point about the power of religion to hold communities together is a valid one. I can see that as both a positive and a negative. But it had nothing to do with your original remarks or my response to them.
uniqueme436

Oct 7 @ 9:18PM  
Wow I take a day to go to Houston to get a car and yall go all talky talk on me. Haha!
SimplyImp

Oct 8 @ 9:39AM  
Religious belief is overwhelmingly a product of where you were born and how you were raised. Simple as that.

It is also based on life experience. Consider the many that 'find Jesus' later in life, but were areligious prior.


CrowHawk

Oct 8 @ 9:40AM  
Why do you need to splash your private beliefs all over unless you want to start more attacks? What you believe is private and whatever is your right. Dont need to advertise or defend anything. Be whatever............... atheist, thief, gay, trans, anything you want...............dont need to post it here all over and start more riots unless its what you trying to do for your own fun
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