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Environmental Money Grab

posted 4/13/2018 10:39:38 AM |
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  SimplyImp

Have you ever wondered about the stores recent excuse about charging 5¢ for a plastic bag for your groceries? As far as I'm concerned, it's a cash grab, plain and simple. Stores budget for the cost of a bag in every single item that they carry, it's the cost of doing business.

They all bleat about the amount of plastic going into the landfills with grocery bags, blah, blah, blah, but I don't see them saying a word about the plastic garbage bags they sell. Or any of the other plastic kitchen catchers etc, etc.

Nope, it's strictly the grocery bags. They say, oh, the single use plastic is what they want to stop. Hello? I don't think it's the single use at all. I think it's because people use them more than once, and that's where the problem lies. I know many of us pet owners use those plastic bags for cat litter or to pick up after their dog. Or use them as kitchen catchers - and why not?

As far as using a reusable cloth bag for groceries, how sanitary is that? How often do those cloth bags get washed? How many germs are passed on from one reusable bag to another via the cashier? And why am I paying twice for a bag, when the cost of it is already in every item I've purchased.

Oh, the bs that I get when I talk to management about it. Staples used to charge for plastic bags and said the money was donated. When I demanded to see the copy of the cheque for the charity, guess what, they didn't have it. When I protested that I'd just spent over $700 in their store and they were going to charge me for a bag, they relented. They don't charge for bags anymore.

But most of the grocery stores charge, and so does Walmart. So I go elsewhere, because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay an extra charge for something that's already been factored into the price of what I'm paying. And yes, I have cloth bags that I leave in my car, and usually end up staying there when I go into the store. That's not the point.

The point is, they spout these environmental concerns, and yet Glad and every other plastic manufacturer seems exempt from the plastic concerns. If people are so concerned, then why are those plastics still available? And what the hell is the difference of throwing away trash in a grocery bag, or a plastic bag from GLAD, et al?

There isn't any. And that's why it's just a money grab. Most people, not being business people, buy the bs that it's an environmental thing, not having a clue that the cost of that bag has already been factored into their purchase, many times over. So they mimic the environmental bullsh*t, like good little sheep, not ever wondering why the other plastics are still available.

Why is it that the local produce stores don't charge for their bags? Because if anyone would be environmentally conscious, it'd be the people that support the local farmers. Why? Because they do budget for those bags in the cost of their items, and have more ethics than to try and screw their clients for something they know their clients have already paid for.

The other stores? They just found a great way to increase their profit margin. The next step? Oh yeah, it'll be, well for health reasons, you have to bag your own groceries. It's almost already there with the self-checkouts and lack of staff, so you're forced to use them if you don't want to wait in horrendous line-ups.

When they stop selling GLAD bags, kitchen catchers and all the plastic manufacturer's bags, that's when I'll believe the extra charge for a grocery bag isn't just a money grab and the environment is truly what's the concern.


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Comments:
jimnastics1

Apr 13 @ 11:13AM  
Here in NJ, no one charges for plastic bags, except Aldi.
Similar to you, I feel reluctant to pay the measly cost for a plastic bag.
However, I still shop there. Instead, I use one of their many cardboard
boxes to hold my items.
The have a container for the stock people to throw the empty
card board boxes into, which is available to the public.
In those times when it is empty, it is easy to find one on the shelf,
that is near empty. So, I empty that by putting the item on the shelf
and use that box.
After I empty the car, those get recycled with my paper refuse.
The effect - less plastic into the environment, which is a very good thing.
I wish more stores did exactly the same thing.
Fayvorite

Apr 13 @ 11:21AM  
Here in NJ, no one charges for plastic bags, except Aldi.

Same here in FL. Jim are you back in Jersey already?

Costco is like Aldi with the boxes, however Aldi's offers to see you grocery bag if you want to buy one, Costco doesn't, Costco is still my favorite story for quality, it is the quantity I have to buy that makes it harsh.

After the move to Tampa I can finally buy bulk again and split it with my bro.
jimnastics1

Apr 13 @ 11:27AM  
are you back in Jersey already

Yes, since 3 am last Friday.
jimnastics1

Apr 13 @ 11:30AM  
Costco is like Aldi

Except Aldi doesn't charge you a membership fee to shop in their store.
Levidopa

Apr 13 @ 11:32AM  
I went to an Aldi once. Not only do they charge you for bags, you have to put down a deposit for use of the shopping cart. You get that money back, but the hassle of all that is just not worth it for me.
catlover418

Apr 13 @ 11:42AM  
I love Aldi! You can put your groceries in boxes for nothing..i was never charged for bags. I tho k they charge for the carts so they don't end up all over the parking lot.

But the prices are very competitive.
SimplyImp

Apr 13 @ 12:05PM  
However, I still shop there. Instead, I use one of their many cardboard boxes to hold my items.

We don't have that option in the grocery stores. Either you bring your own, pay for a bag, or load up your cart and take your groceries unpacked out to your car.

I see no one addressed the 'so how come the environmentalists aren't all over plastic manufacturers? question. :)

Must be a west coast thing.

SimplyImp

Apr 13 @ 12:08PM  
Fay - I like Costco as well, but having to buy in bulk is way too much for one person. I have shared with my Mom, but even so, it's still a lot.

SimplyImp

Apr 13 @ 12:09PM  
Levi - I also won't shop at a place I have to hunt for change to borrow a cart. Many of the stores have stopped that practice, realizing they've lost business because it's too inconvenient.

SimplyImp

Apr 13 @ 12:11PM  
catlover - as we don't have an Aldi here, I can only surmise it's similar to our Super Stores - where they do charge for carts, and bags if you want them. Otherwise, bring your own, but their prices are very low as they don't bag anything.

jimnastics1

Apr 13 @ 12:38PM  
Yes, Aldi charges a big whopping 25 cents for a cart, which you get back,
when you return the cart to it's proper place, rather than leaving it in the way
of other drivers. Bravo to Aldi !
Since I don't usually buy in bulk, I don't pay a membership fee and rarely use a cart.
jimnastics1

Apr 13 @ 12:42PM  
I see no one addressed the 'so how come the environmentalists aren't all over plastic manufacturers? question. :)

You're right. Unfortunately, the current administration does not care at all about the environment and thus, now isn't the time to address this.
SimplyImp

Apr 13 @ 12:46PM  
Yes, Aldi charges a big whopping 25 cents for a cart, which you get back,when you return the cart to it's proper place, rather than leaving it in the way of other drivers.

They tried that here, but I guess the 25¢ wasn't enough of an incentive, as the carts still got left. Then they upped it to a loonie, then a toonie ($1 and $2 coin) and found people just quit shopping there.

So now, the carts don't require a deposit.

SimplyImp

Apr 13 @ 12:48PM  
You're right. Unfortunately, the current administration does not care at all about the environment and thus, now isn't the time to address this.

You're right, although it is relevant here, so I guess it's one of those Canadian things.

jimnastics1

Apr 13 @ 12:56PM  
They tried that here, but I guess the 25¢ wasn't enough of an incentive

In both NJ & FL it seems to be effective here. I'm not sure why.
I doubt its because $0.25 US is worth more than $0.25 CN.
Aldi doesn't seem to have a lack of shoppers.
Indeed, on your behalf, I just searched for Aldi Washington State
and apparently there are none and several people are requesting some.
SimplyImp

Apr 13 @ 2:50PM  
Aldi doesn't seem to have a lack of shoppers.
Indeed, on your behalf, I just searched for Aldi Washington State
and apparently there are none and several people are requesting some.

An Aldi store in Wa state wouldn't do me much good. There are some things I can buy and bring across the border, but not a lot. And it's not a matter of paying duty or taxes on it, it's a matter that they simply don't allow it in.

a_simple_man

Apr 14 @ 11:24AM  
pointedly..... cali is one of the feel good states that has banned cheap plastic free bags but required plastic bags to be made more durable....with a charge.....

I always have felt it was a money grab....as you eloquently stated.... new machines.. new patented formnulas and the same thing.. to bag with plastic.. or to bag with wood....

the point of not using wood was because trees don't grow like weeds...

now that hemp is legal....there should be more paper hemp bags that can go up in smoke....


no wait.... smoke is air pollution....but fire fighters all let fires burn....burning down everything in it's path....

what I know.... the cheap plastic bags decomposed rather quickly.....everywhere but in the pacific ocean.... and how they got into the ocean in the first place escapes me....

what I suspect...the heavier plastics take longer to decompose now.....creating more of a problem than they solve....

so yep.....it was.....all about the money....

btw...here in California.... only GROCERY stores (stores that sold food...)..were affected by the bag ban.....

food for thought....it is.....indeed
SimplyImp

Apr 14 @ 11:35AM  
Exactly, re: grocery stores! It is about the money, and it's all bs.

I can tell you how 'some' bags get into the ocean. Here, the Fraser River is very low right now, and one can drive onto the river bed. It's a favourite place for young people to hang out, build bonfires with driftwood, and stand around and party.

What do they do? They leave their empty cans, plastic bags, and garbage around the campfire when they leave. Guess where it's going to end up when the river rises? Yup, in the ocean.

God forbid that they pick up after themselves.

a_simple_man

Apr 14 @ 11:54AM  
so.. rather than ticket the polluters...... the solution is to punish you by making you pay for the bags....


really..... I suspect that some children are litterbugs..... while others are environmentally conscious.....

the simple point is....republicans are all about white collar jobs in wall street... whereas all it would take is a new police force......called.. the parks and recreation police....

my little big town.... has them.... but drew the line when they wanted to have 'city issued guns' to combat unruly park people....


I see...... in willie's future..... a dirty harry scenario of.... pick up your trash..or make my day.... while jimmy just uses other peoples boxes.....

I know for a fact that NJ recycling is non existent......unlike California's.....

mostly because I suspect it's because...people like trump.....control all the garbage in NJ......





SimplyImp

Apr 14 @ 12:02PM  
so.. rather than ticket the polluters...... the solution is to punish you by making you pay for the bags....

Evidently. And the stupid thing is, the people that toss the bags on the ground and let them blow everywhere, aren't the ones that care whether they pay for a bag or not.

a_simple_man

Apr 14 @ 12:22PM  
yep.... it's just.......
SimplyImp

Apr 14 @ 5:09PM  
Ever notice that plastic disposable diapers are never, ever mentioned when it comes to plastics breaking down? And how many billions of those go into the landfills, daily?

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