Prime Minister John Howard of Australia’s view by
Australian Treasurer Peter Costello I did my research here and Costello said it.
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television
"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."
"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia ." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."
"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
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Looch
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Nov 5 @ 7:57AM
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that's it, I'm moving to Australia!!
anyway - if the funds can be managed they certainly will get some tourist dollars from me soon
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 8:02AM
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Looch, countires have to stand up and not let others come in and change them like we are letting them change us. Our country is being changed everyday by foreigers who do not want to follow our traditions.
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 8:22AM
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Very interesting...and how have the Aussies embraced Mr. Costello's speech? Not very well. The coalition government, currently headed by John Howard, looks poised for defeat at the hands of the Australian Labor Party. Indeed, Howard looks like he will be losing his seat to Maxine McKew, the Labor candidate. Coalition candidates, including Howard, are backing out of debates -- never a good sign in Australia (or anywhere else for that matter).
About 10 years ago, Australia made a concerted attempt to push off the racist immigration policies of its past, its protectionist trade policies that had given it a second world economy, and moved into the modern world. But old habits die hard.
While the Aussies, like the British, remain one of the few members of the Coalition of the Willing the war is exceedingly unpopular in Australia. Aussies are also concerned that other issues like the economy, education and the environment have gotten short shrift by the Howard government. Polls, which have remained steady for several months, show Labor beating Howard's Coalition by nearly 8 points.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 8:28AM
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There is less unemployment since John Howard has been the Prime Minister.
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Kenn159
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Nov 5 @ 8:54AM
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Looch, countires have to stand up and not let others come in and change them like we are letting them change us. Our country is being changed everyday by foreigers who do not want to follow our traditions.
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OMG!
Interesting .
If the aggression in the Middle East region, modeled by our invasion of Iraq, doesn't stop, we could be looking at world war 3.
This includes Israel.
And no, for anyone that is going to throw the anti-Semite card.
We are all immigrants unless you are American Indian.
I encourage diversity and believe it is the strength of America
Although this is not the message from the exclusion extreme right which includes AM hate radio.
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Kenn159
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Nov 5 @ 8:55AM
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I must be sleepy,I just combined responses from two blogs. 
Please discount the middle statement.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 9:02AM
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I encourage diversity and believe it is the strength of America
Kenn, you will think we have diversity and strength when we are under the Islamic Sharia law. It could happen one day you know.
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Kenn159
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Nov 5 @ 9:08AM
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Kenn, you will think we have diversity and strength when we are under the Islamic Sharia law. It could happen one day you know
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Fear mongering
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 9:19AM
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IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.
The same should be said for America. At least, that's how I always understood it, and I'm an immigrant. I learned the language and the assorted laws of this country. Why would others not do so, either?
America is our host.
When you go live with somebody else, you don't expect them to learn your language and abide by your laws. You will adapt, try to fit in, try not to disrupt the life of your host, who has been kind enough to let you in and accept you.
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 9:25AM
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There is less unemployment since John Howard has been the Prime Minister.
Howard has benefitted from programs instituted in the previous Labor government of Bob Hawke. Hawke privatized Quantas and several other industries, made significant changes to the fixed Australian currency encouraging investment and made many changes to employment policy. These programs came into force during Howard's administration.
However, recent economic indicators are showing increases in the Aussie rate of inflation, which Howard is trying to push off.
Furthermore, one wonders how productive Costello's comments are in the reality of Australia. There are few Muslims and while they've had a small number of arrests of individuals with possible links to terrorist groups, the intelligence that brought these individuals to light came from within the Muslim community. Comments like those made by Costello marginalize law-abiding Muslim Aussies and perhaps compromise the good relations between law enforcement and the Muslim community.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 9:29AM
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kammy - It appears that many posters here do not understand what your blog alludes to. The Aussies are dealing with Muslims in their country trying to enforce Sharia Law! This includes woman beating by men, mercy killings and the enforced wearing of covering by women - AMONG OTHER THINGS! Naturally they will have their own courts!
So they come here and want to have their own sovereign nation in their imaginary community. All of this non sense about WW III and Howards approval has nothing to do with your topic - AL ALL!
Below is a link that depicts what Sharia Law looks like. This man is a Dr - his show is the Muslim version of Dr Phil it is syndicated and seen throughout the Muslim World! This is not FEAR MONGERING - this is what is on TV in the Muslim world EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. I have lived in the area - the fact that many here call it FEAR MONGERING is proof that when one inserts head in sand - only an asshole is exposed!
The topic of this particular show - HOW TO BEAT YOUR WIFE! Of course these people are not animals -  Wife beating only begins after the man withholds sex from her -
>>>>>>>>proper wife beating techniques <<<<<<<<<<<
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 9:36AM
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No, Iam, you don't understand.
Costello's comments were in response to a request by Muslim leaders in Australia for Muslim divorces to be recognized under Australian law and not the creation of a whole shadow judicial system under sharia law.
Australia, like the state of New York, recognizes the gett, the divorce decree granted by rabbinical courts to Orthodox Jews. Observant Muslims had been asking for a similar process for the granting of religious divorces under the law.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 9:41AM
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Furthermore, one wonders how productive Costello's comments are in the reality of Australia. There are few Muslims and while they've had a small number of arrests of individuals with possible links to terrorist groups, the intelligence that brought these individuals to light came from within the Muslim community. Comments like those made by Costello marginalize law-abiding Muslim Aussies and perhaps compromise the good relations between law enforcement and the Muslim community.
Law abiding Muslims do not support these Radical "religious" people. Here in the USA good Muslims are glad to see them deported. This just happened in Cleveland. That would be like saying people in the inner city are marginalized when Drug Dealers are arrested.
In Iraq we are seeing the same thing - GOOD MUSLIMS are finally fed up and are turning on the terrorists. This will ONLY happen with the support of the police and government! Bravo to Costello and Howard!
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LipGlossQueen9
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Nov 5 @ 9:45AM
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What if a Muslim makes the decision to make Shari'a the law of their own lives but doesn't really care what anyone else does? Many people make religious laws the laws of their own lives, but don't seek to convert others to that way of life.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 9:49AM
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A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television
"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.
Eastham - where does this blog say anything that resembles what you posted? PULEASE!
Don't worry Eastham - they start with toothpicks and work their way up to sticks - it gives women PLENTY of time to get their ass straightened out!
How can you defend this? It is repulsive! The Radical clerics here and in Australian support this stuff Eastham. You know that! Your hypocrisy is appalling!
Maybe the Muslims here will start a new reality TV show on A&E - How to tame your wife!
Now I am taking bets that there is no Muslim in this world that will kick Kammy's ass! I will buy tickets to see that one!!!! 
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 9:50AM
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lipgloss...
they should still abide to the laws of the country they're living in. The country is souvereign....
Else... some pedophiles could say they have their own laws and it's OK to mollest little children...
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 9:51AM
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LGQ, you are correct. Jews can determine whether or not they will abide by kosher restrictions, Catholics can choose not to eat meat on Fridays, and no one will come for a Greek Orthodox who smears butter on his bread during Lent.
Iam, re-read the last sentence you blocked off. Costello's comments are not considered by law enforcement and others to be helpful to the ongoing relationship between the Muslim community and the extremely small number of radical elements therein.
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LipGlossQueen9
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Nov 5 @ 9:54AM
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Of course they should; I'm not implying that they shouldn't. But I personally don't see a problem with some Muslims living by (some of) the principles of Shari'a in their private lives, as many religious individuals live by religious "laws" in their private lives and don't wish to convert people. I don't think all Muslims who live by Shari'a wish to convert people, and if one does, than they should be dealt with accordingly, just like any individual who seeks to convert people who are not willing to convert...whether it is in a religious manner or not. Just like how in America, there are Latino groups who wish to make Spanish the official or second language of the United States, when many of us find that to be rather undesirable.
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 9:54AM
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Travel,
Committing yourself to a prescribed set of religious rules doesn't preclude you from submitting to civil law.
What was at issue in Australia, and is in the case here in New York, is the allowance for a religious divorce decree granted by a rabbinical court as equivalent to a civil divorce and the lack of a corresponding recognition for Muslim divorce under Australian law.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 9:57AM
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lgq - Many people make religious laws the laws of their own lives, but don't seek to convert others to that way of life.
You are only partially correct. Here is what happens. An American woman marries a Muslim. While she knows he is Muslim she has no idea about Muslim Law. They have children - life is good. They then go to the husbands country of origin - and guess what. SHe has no rights! She cannot take her children back if he choses to stay. Then the beating begins. There are thousands of cases where children have and American wives have disappeared. The foreign governments will not help because their countries are under Sharia law!
You all need to read publications other than the NYT! This happens every day and is no joke!
How women defend this is beyond imagination!
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 9:59AM
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LGQ, don't compare apples to oranges. A better example is not Spanish, which is an ethnic language, but efforts by local churches to bend local civil law to its will. In the Northeast where there are more Catholics, the Catholic Church has worked tirelessly to get affiliated hospitals out from underneath local and state laws re abortion and contraception. Likewise, the Mormon Church has had a great deal of influence on civil law in Utah. What about evangelical churches who have pushed through anti-evolution statutes in Georgia and Kansas?
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 10:00AM
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We are not speaking about inter-faith marriages and couples moving to Pakistan or Egypt, we are speaking about Australia.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 10:01AM
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Eastham, wife beating has nothing to do with kosher restrictions and Catholics choosing to eat meat on Fridays or not. That is a personal thing according to someone's religion. Wife beating is a whole other different thing and comes under state law of the country.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:03AM
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Iam, re-read the last sentence you blocked off. Costello's comments are not considered by law enforcement and others to be helpful to the ongoing relationship between the Muslim community and the extremely small number of radical elements therein.
Eastham - who says? And - WHO CARES?
The liberal idea to support wife beating Clerics under the guise of appeasement accomplishes WHAT?
So you are willing to throw some women under the bus to improve Muslim relations?
I like it Eastham!
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 10:03AM
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...eastham...
But it is the law makers of the host country who examine the request before granting allowance.
I.e. here in the USA, a Native American marriage license is as good as a US marriage license, same for a divorce from a tribal court. But these "rights" have been examined and granted, because they do not interfer with the laws of this country.
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 10:05AM
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Domestic violence occurs, unfortunately, in all faiths.
The issue at hand was a request for Muslim religious divorce in Australia to receive the same treatment under Australian law at the Orthodox Jewish gett. The response was an explosion in the conservative blogosphere, making the request much more than it was and intemperate comments from a leader in Australia's coalition government.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:06AM
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kammy - Easthams liberal view point requires her to support the Muslims - no matter what. Liberals believe that if we leave them alone - they will leave us alone
So they draw a moral equivalence to mercy killing of women, beating of women, female genital mutilation - to kosher meat!
Kammy - of course folks like you and I lack the intelligence and sophistication to understand such enlightened ideas!
Too much!
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boogie861
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Nov 5 @ 10:08AM
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Press 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish, press 3 for.....? Where does it end?
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all
We are a country of laws....
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 10:08AM
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And Travel, that is exactly what the original request was in Australia. Muslim clerics asked that their religious divorce be recognized under Australian law. That the Australian legal system recognizes the divorce degrees from another religious court bolstered their interest in having their divorce decrees also recognized. Subsequently, this request was blown out of proportion and purported to be a request by Muslims not to follow Australian civil law. Not the case.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:09AM
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Domestic violence occurs, unfortunately, in all faiths. [QUOTE]
Eastham - here is a challenge. Get you googler out and find any information ANYWHERE - they comes close to the video link I posted here! The link I posted is not some youtube non sense. It is a syndicated TV show! Clerics and MEDICAL DOCTORS are preaching this on TV Eastham!!!!!
Your statement proves your blindness to reality!
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youaremissed
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Nov 5 @ 10:10AM
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GREAT BLOG Kandy!  Now I know where I can move if any of the current frontrunners win the presidential election and do the amnesty, NAU thing...
"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.
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HandyItalian
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Nov 5 @ 10:13AM
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im all for wife beatings...... bet there would be less divorce that way....
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 10:14AM
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estham...
no it is not...
Native Americans have always been American. Their laws abide the laws of the country.
If they would ask to be allowed to officially marry 3 women, they would not be allowed....
Don't you see the difference?
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youaremissed
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Nov 5 @ 10:15AM
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Handy italian  I'm all for the 2nd amendment...I've never been beaten 
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:21AM
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Here is a case that has been going on in Australia - The link is blow - here is an excerpt - Seems a Muslim Cleric orchestrated a gang rape and now his community is upset that he is in jail! Very nice!
The reference to sixty years is an allusion to the original 55 year sentence, handed down to Lebanese Bilal Skaf on August 15, 2002, for his part masterminding violent gang-rapes in west Sydney. Because of a technicality, where jurors had done their own investigation of the crime scenes, Skaf was retried, and on July 28 this year, Skaf was given a minimum of eleven years' jail, additional to the 22 years' minimum jail for the other rapes he committed. The 2002 sentencing report was horrific in its detail. It can be found HERE.
"This is where I think everything has gone unbalanced. We don't support criminals or crimes, but at the same time we want justice for everyone," Omran said.
muslim gang rape - new sport in Australia!
Here are some other examples of what Australia is dealing with!
australian Muslim Cleric preaches murder to children
aussie clerics gagged
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youaremissed
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Nov 5 @ 10:27AM
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east it is not just about divorce decree its about much more than that...The quote below is in several of the links... Disgusting... Australia is absolutely right and totally justified!
googleHE nation's most senior Muslim cleric has blamed immodestly dressed women who don't wear Islamic headdress for being preyed on by men and likened them to abandoned "meat" that attracts voracious animals.In a Ramadan sermon that has outraged Muslim women leaders, Sydney-based Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali also alluded to the infamous Sydney gang rapes, suggesting the attackers were not entirely to blame. While not specifically referring to the rapes, brutal attacks on four women for which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences, Sheik Hilali said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore make-up and immodest dress ... "and then you get a judge without mercy (rahma) and gives you 65 years". "But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he asked. The leader of the 2000 rapes in Sydney's southwest, Bilal Skaf, a Muslim, was initially sentenced to 55 years' jail, but later had the sentence reduced on appeal. In the religious address on adultery to about 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, Sheik Hilali said: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
[B]"The uncovered meat is the problem."
The sheik then said: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."
He said women were "weapons" used by "Satan" to control men."It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa)." [/B]
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:29AM
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travel - this is what Liberals like Eastham do not understand.
According to a radical Muslim beating a woman is not domestic violence, it is a religious way to train a wife! What is amusing to me is that if a Christian said this she would be outraged! Yet it is a popular TV show throughout the Muslim world.
If a single girl has sex before marriage with a non Muslim - the family will kill her. This is not murder to a radical Muslim - it is a religious Mercy Killing! The Clerics will support this!
If a Christian did this the liberals would be all over it like white on rice!
A Muslim does it - and people like me are not smart and enlightened enough to understand. And of course they will say - there is violence everywhere and in 200 AD a Christian or Jew did this!
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 10:33AM
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...iam...
You forgot the cave people...
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:36AM
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YAM - shortly after this Cleric issued this sermon the gag rule was put in effect!
Also to note - these Clerics come to Australia and the USA from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon and other Muslim nations that practice Sharia Law. They are sponsored to be here to spread this form of Islam throughout the world!
I wonder how Eastham and other liberals like being compared to a piece of uncovered meat?
Funny thing - I never heard a Rabbi say anything as enlightened as that! Or a Priest or Pastor?
I need to get some more enlightenment to fully understand the depths of Allahs teachings! 
Uncovered red meat! Hmmmmmm..................
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 10:39AM
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youaremissed...
Uncovered meat , eh?
yes, I know, I've been there and seen that and heard the talk, AND seen the beatings....
It's just funny what kind of example he picked...
If the world becomes Islamic, I'll go live on the moon (just started my astronaut training.... Better be prepared, the way things go.....)
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:41AM
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travel - I thought Cats like fish!
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 10:45AM
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...iam...
hey, I didn't bring it up.
Maybe we should ask that Sheik something or other?
I bet he could whip (!!!!!) up an example with fish....
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 10:57AM
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Thanks for all the comments. I guess I am a piece of red meat and it is ok to rape me by their law.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 11:00AM
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kammy - I pity the Muslim man that messes with you! I can tell that you have NO PROBLEM not wearing a hajib and that you don't take no chit from anyone!
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 11:15AM
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Kandy....
before you get "regular raped" you'll get beaten, too....
but that's OK.... by their understanding.
BTW.... if the beating marks show too much in the face (the rest of the body being covered anyway, by law..... and that might be for a good reason.... ) and you have to leave the house for some unavoidable reason... you will be forced to cover the black eye, busted lip and broken nose with heavy make-up..... or else.... what would the neighbors think???
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 11:17AM
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....and...
when he's done with you and divorces you, HE will keep the children (and raise them his way...), because under Islamic law, the father keeps the children...
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Nov 5 @ 11:24AM
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Thanks for all the comments. I guess I am a piece of red meat and it is ok to rape me by their law.
kammy - what is so fascinating to me about the position that Liberals like Eastham have on this issue is this -
I will unravel the issue -
Liberals think that it is OK for Muslims to practice their form of Islam along with their Sharia Law. This includes the removal of tongues, hands, feet and heads - Of course with due cause! And of course since they are willing participants!
Yet Liberals are against the death penalty and torture.
Liberals think it is OK for THEM to practice wife beating, mercy killing and general slander against women under the guise of Religion - since of course according to some they do not push their religion on us? The apparent logic being that Muslim women are willing participants and once properly trained will not be beaten!
So that means that polygamy should be legal in Utah?
Liberals like Nancy Botox Pelosi will wear a Hajib as she gives the terrorist President of Syria a political BLOW JOB - yet Liberals believes it is OK for a couple of Drag Queens to disrupt a Catholic Mass!
I am so glad that my enlightenment has not taken ME to such high places!
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Kenn159
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Nov 5 @ 11:34AM
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I personally believe if this law, belief system, whatever is Illegal in the country that it is being carried out, then it is not exceptable .
Rape and phisical abuse is against the law last time I checked.
If it is not Ilegal, let the people do what they want .
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Kenn159
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Nov 5 @ 11:36AM
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And Kammy, I'm not afraid of Sharia law taking over our country.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 11:36AM
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kenn
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 11:54AM
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...kenn...
And Kammy, I'm not afraid of Sharia law taking over our country
why would you? You're MALE....
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 12:00PM
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If it is not Ilegal, let the people do what they want
travel - this is an indication that one of our posters here did not understand the blog topic - The topic is that the Australian Government is not allowing Muslims to use their radical form of Sharia Law to govern themsleves.
SO of course if their law is in conflict with Australian Law it is illegal! If there was not conflict - there would not be an issue?
WTF does this quote mean? 
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 12:08PM
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...iam...
People don't seem to understand about legality, and illegality....
Just take immigration.... same thing there....
and as a general "rule", it looks to me that a lot of people think that they can drive too fast, but as long as they don't get caught by the police, they're not speeding.... Therefore it's LEGAL (as long as they're not caught....)
Fine mentality that leaves the door open to "accept" all kinds of things....(as long as it's not in MY livingroom....) Well.... it might get there pretty soon, if no one does anything about it...
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 12:37PM
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travel - you are being way too kind!
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 12:45PM
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...iam...
I know, it's my nature. 
but one day I'll stop....
  
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 1:31PM
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Liberals think that it is OK for Muslims to practice their form of Islam along with their Sharia Law. This includes the removal of tongues, hands, feet and heads - Of course with due cause! And of course since they are willing participants!
Iam, I do not think these American liberals really know or understand what Sharia law lets them do in the name of religion. You can not let a people practive their own religion when it is an abusive religion. Liberals seem to turn a deaf ear to the Muslim religion and all it encompasses.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 1:39PM
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And Kammy, I'm not afraid of Sharia law taking over our country You better be afraid, Kenn, very afraid.
Have you not noticed that they are taking little things away from us each day with prayers in schools, The Ten Commandments, The Lord's Prayer, God from our flags and pledge, no respect for our National Anthem, and the list will go on and on. There will not be much of God left in anything in America when your grand children and great grandchildren are adults. All it takes is enough people of one race to change the face of the USA. Watch our money in the next few years. It will change also.
We must stand up now and fight for our future generations.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 1:42PM
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kammy - I pity the Muslim man that messes with you! I can tell that you have NO PROBLEM not wearing a hajib and that you don't take no chit from anyone! Iam, the next man who beats me will get a bullet between his eyes. You can count on that.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 1:49PM
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Fine mentality that leaves the door open to "accept" all kinds of things....(as long as it's not in MY livingroom....) Well.... it might get there pretty soon, if no one does anything about it...
Travelwoman, it is time people stop "accepting" things that are not their problems rigt now, but will be in the future.
Give them an inch and they will want a mile.
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travelwoman
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Nov 5 @ 1:54PM
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...Kandy....
They already gave HALF A MILE...!!!!!!
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 1:59PM
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Kammy - of course folks like you and I lack the intelligence and sophistication to understand such enlightened ideas!
Yeah right.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 2:05PM
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Now I am taking bets that there is no Muslim in this world that will kick Kammy's ass! I will buy tickets to see that one!!!!
You are right there Iam. I will fight today and fight tomorrow to keep the people out who want to change our country.
Remember the Spartans. All we need is 300 good people to stand up with us, and then the others will follow.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 2:05PM
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Now I am taking bets that there is no Muslim in this world that will kick Kammy's ass! I will buy tickets to see that one!!!!
You are right there Iam. I will fight today and fight tomorrow to keep the people out who want to change our country.
Remember the Spartans. All we need is 300 good people to stand up with us, and then the others will follow.
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 2:07PM
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You are right ravelwoman, they already have taken half a mile. We have a half left to fight for.
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LipGlossQueen9
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Nov 5 @ 2:40PM
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I used to practise Islam. Iam, you know this. I never wanted to convert anybody, I never advocated child or spousal abuse, and I never advocated cutting off appendages as "punishment". I never wanted this country to be a Muslim country. What I did with my private life was my business and I never tried to push it on anyone else because I would not appreciate it if anyone had tried to do that to me...which sometimes, they did.
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edthepoet
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Nov 5 @ 2:55PM
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omg, I am going to have to agree with you and your blog, No govt should allow any groups law to interfere with there, especially groups who are known to kill, just to make their point.
I love Australia and it people, man do they ever have spunk,lol
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youaremissed
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Nov 5 @ 3:11PM
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LGQ You are first an american, that choose to convert... There lies a big difference between that variety of muslim and the middle eastern muslim...
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youaremissed
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Nov 5 @ 3:14PM
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I'd like to add that theirs is a culture of ancient religion... The muslim religion here for americans shares little similarity to the former...
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ChipP
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Nov 5 @ 3:45PM
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To understand the full context of this particular subject, read THIS
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john49887
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Nov 5 @ 4:11PM
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I will fight today and fight tomorrow to keep the people out who want to change our country.
I am really getting very tired of people coming to the USA and demanding that the entire population exercise political correctness and kiss their asses by acceding to all of their demands.
It disturbs me more that our "leaders" don't speak up about it.
Hey...you don't like it here...get the hell out and make your demands in the nation you came from!
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Kandykammy
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Nov 5 @ 4:23PM
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Amen John, we have to be like the Spartans and not let others take over our country and change things.
We do not interfer with anyone's religion here, but we do not want them to change our belief in God and Jesus. They knew what we were when they came and they have no right to try to change us.
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Kenn159
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Nov 5 @ 7:28PM
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used to practise Islam. Iam, you know this. I never wanted to convert anybody, I never advocated child or spousal abuse, and I never advocated cutting off appendages as "punishment". I never wanted this country to be a Muslim country. What I did with my private life was my business and I never tried to push it on anyone else because I would not appreciate it if anyone had tried to do that to me...which sometimes, they did.
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And I believe that the majority of Moslems in this country are like you were when you practiced .
Those claiming the sky is falling and the Moslems will take over the world are pushing ignorance and prejudice.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 10:40PM
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I used to practise Islam. Iam, you know this. I never wanted to convert anybody, I never advocated child or spousal abuse, and I never advocated cutting off appendages as "punishment". I never wanted this country to be a Muslim country. What I did with my private life was my business and I never tried to push it on anyone else because I would not appreciate it if anyone had tried to do that to me...which sometimes, they did.
LGQ - you are not a Muslim leader and in the eyes of Islam you are nothing! Women are servants to men. Period - they are not allowed to study the Koran - their purpose is to serve their MAN! You of all people shouild know this!
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eastham
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Nov 5 @ 10:50PM
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I guess you missed out of the Progressive Muslim Association's women's prayer initiative.
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iam7545
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Nov 5 @ 11:14PM
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Eastham - why dont you call some of the Muslim Clerics and ask what they think about this!
LIKE RAW MEAT! They would probably organize a gang rape party with this group!
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eastham
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Nov 7 @ 5:01PM
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Actually, the women's prayer movement has been well-received in some circles and villified in others -- making the Muslims little different from the language we heard in Protestant churches in the 1970's and 80's as women entered the ministry and from Catholic and Orthodox priests on the question of women in the clergy.
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