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  painter007

Today I was in the tutor center at school using the computers when all of a sudden a older gentlemen suffered a heart attack.......
The question is, if you saw someone in need of help would you be able to perform what they might need for assistance? And could you? Did you know when someone has a heart attack and you are giving chest compressions and they are older you may hear crunching sounds from their ribs breaking.....Did you know that most people vomit? And that once you are giving chest compressions you may be there a while so strength and endurance comes into play...

I had to start the compressions but the man was very large and I had to sit on top of him to be able to give the compressions....and seeing him vomit almost made me throwup......and thankfully there was someone stronger to take over because I dont think I could of lasted.
Emergency situations can arise at anytime...so just wondering if you could or couldnt help out. Just a thought...

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JimNastics

Jan 15 @ 4:49PM  
Way to come to the rescue
Mission_Impossible139

Jan 15 @ 4:50PM  
I don't know anything about CPR so I wouldn't be much help.
Congratulations on your "save". You done well.

While canoeing down the Deshutes River with a group from the Bend recreation dept., an old fisherman, along the bank, had a heart attack. Two of our group, who were riding together in a canoe, had just finished a course in CPR. They paddled over and managed to save the guy! It was great story around the campfire that night.
painter007

Jan 15 @ 4:52PM  
There were many people who came to his aid...and Im not sure I helped much he was a large man and not sure if my compressions got deep enough....but its amazing what adrenaline will do......
ChipP

Jan 15 @ 4:52PM  
CPR training helps...I have had to do it..I wasn't really thinking about the puke and the physical endurance part of it..I just kinda went into autopilot...it was my military training kicking in I guess..You do what you need to do and freak out after the fact..then you rationalize, then you keep plugging on with life....
Nightowl001

Jan 15 @ 4:53PM  
I don't keep my CPR certification current (too much effort where I live), but I haven't forgotten how to perform it.

I think it is great if people take the time and trouble to learn to do it properly, as well as several other common-sense things they should know about unlikely but possible events that might occur.
ladykay488

Jan 15 @ 4:55PM  
When the adrenalin starts flowing you are able to do somethings that you never thought that you could. I have done this quite a few times from the elderly to babies. It is a hard job to perform CPR on some people. I works as a medic for a few years and rode in the ambulance in which our hospital was at least 21 miles away.
CPUfan

Jan 15 @ 4:58PM  
Well you did just GREAT and you sure had your wits about you...

I would probably just fake it but would surely try my best to do what I've seen demonstrated.

I once had a collapse in my class, a pensioner with a known weak heart, but I could feel both his hearbeat and his breathing so I decided not to crack any ribs !!! False alarm, he just jumped up and picked up his coffee from the table.. Pheeeeew
Journeyhawk

Jan 15 @ 5:01PM  
I just went though discussing this scenario with the daughter of one of my clients yesterday. I help with respite care for her father while the daughter runs errands, etc. He is 90 and has had two MI's. I explained the crunching bones, etc, to her and asked her to discuss with her significant others whether she wanted this done. They live out in the country and it would take more than 3 minutes for the EMT's to get there. She told me to do whatever I could. I do not have my current CPR card, but I have had enough practical experience. I would be covered under the Good Samaritan Act. I would do the very best that I could do if anything ever happened. That's all I can do. Hopefully, it would buy him the time he needed until the EMT's arrived.
Thanks for this timely post and for what you did today. It is never easy, but it should be done if at all possible.
mordru

Jan 15 @ 5:08PM  
As soon as he vomited I would have screamed like a little girl and ran.
painter007

Jan 15 @ 5:08PM  
Like I said Im not sure if I helped that much, but I did have my wits about me....I had worked at pools the first 20 years of working so we were always doing trainings...but the last one I ever worked on who had a heart attack was a very old woman and her bones all crunched....I didnt know that would happen they never taught that in class...anyways,........I did what I could...
Thank you for your comments...and yes we do go into autopilot.
itechman63

Jan 15 @ 5:10PM  
I maybe could have gotten him a Fresca.

Great job!
CPUfan

Jan 15 @ 5:13PM  
Good work 007... over and out, "M."
pamdemonium

Jan 15 @ 5:14PM  
Oh, Paint. Sorry you had to go through that.
Yes. Trained in CPR...and the Red Cross offers keychain sized masks, so that you don't have to come in contact with their mouth.
And sadly enough, CPR can be helpful in some instances, but by and large, if they have a huge heart attack, it's often futile. It's best used as a rescue breathing technique. Absolutely worth knowing, and practicing....I'm proud of you.
Journeyhawk

Jan 15 @ 5:16PM  
but I did have my wits about me....
This is the key. You do what you have to do when the situation calls for it.
I had to do it on a man who had expired in a hospital setting. The bones were crunching and giving way when I did it. It made me sick in my stomach. To top it all off, the guys with the arms were standing there just watching me do it. I was tiring very fast and I said "Can't one of you PLEASE take over for me?" They just kept standing there looking at me. I had to continue the compressions. It is something that I'll not soon forget but at least I found out what it felt like to do compressions on a real person other than just Annie.
painter007

Jan 15 @ 5:19PM  
Itechman.............brat lol


and yes much different than annie...


Still dont know why in class they dont tell you the bones may crack...freaked me out the first time..I thought I was doing more damage to the woman...(years ago)
but they said its normal....ickkkkk


And what really gets me is the vomit....and no mouth guards..thats why I chose his chest....
Danishandy

Jan 15 @ 5:25PM  
thanks 4 the info......i am goin on a diet..........startin yesterday
oppositeview

Jan 15 @ 5:26PM  
I took a CPR class this summer. A friend is setting up a CPR Learning Center, and had to do a class for a regional instructor. So, I volunteered to be in her class. I also volunteered another friend who's 26 year old son had 2 heart attacks a year ago.

We both have our face mask key chains. And, hopefully I won't ever have to use it!
painter007

Jan 15 @ 5:27PM  
Its not a diet some need...its a lifestyle change.......just saying
psylvr

Jan 15 @ 5:33PM  
I used to do under water construction so cpr was mandatory to know and constintly practice , so yes , I know it can be tough .....
Danishandy

Jan 15 @ 5:41PM  
i am gunna stop smokin.............startin yesterday....
painter007

Jan 15 @ 5:48PM  
Danish......so procrasting will be left for starting yesterday also? hahahahah
orgasmic4u

Jan 15 @ 6:00PM  
Wow you are amazing... I hope he is ok, and can say thank you to you...
I have had to help a few people in my past who have been in diabetic shock.
That was interesting. I am trained as an emergency responder, but the past few years I haven't needed to use my skills. I've always wanted to do the chest compressions, ( cpr) and mouth to mouth to some beautiful well built woman, but they are not the ones who have problems..hehe..
I know you did great.. Thanks for sharing..
Danishandy

Jan 15 @ 6:00PM  
i am gunna give up sex......startin 20 yrs ago......
painter007

Jan 15 @ 6:02PM  
you two goofs Danish and Orgasmic....is that all you think about is sex sex sex?
BeachCrete

Jan 15 @ 6:04PM  
It's a situation that most of us never even think about..until it happens to us...GODD JOB sweety
Danishandy

Jan 15 @ 6:09PM  
i have a variety of interests.....but lack of sex keeps me from gettin to those
luvshorses644

Jan 15 @ 6:32PM  
Yep, I could and would.. I am certified in both CPR and AED... and I took the classes and got my certification in case I could assist someone.
warmc

Jan 15 @ 6:34PM  
Iv done mouth to mouth and I got sick as hell later but if I had to do it again I guess I would
chris549547

Jan 15 @ 6:35PM  
its very admirable that you did what you did .a lot of people dont know what to do in that kind of situation ,, but it is something everyone should learn, ,,and when you do learn they dont tell you about the vomiting and cracklin for a reason, ,I am a paramedic and have been for 25 years and have had to do cpr on and off the job thousands of times,,it doesnt get easier you just learn to carry mouthwash around with you but if people would learn cpr there would be ALOT of lives saved
Cynbaby

Jan 15 @ 6:56PM  
That was good you helped him. I get certified every year in CPR and AED, however I have yet to administer it. I only helped one of my kids as a toddler from choking. You need to be at the right place at the right time.
daisy315

Jan 15 @ 7:26PM  
I'm CPR certified in Adults and infants.. ( big difference between them).. and I have done CPR on adults during codes while waiting for the crash cart. I did CPR on one fella while he was being transported to the ICU.. not easy to do on a bed rolling down the hall and me sitting across him and having to switch from chest compressions to rescue breathing.. That was the longest elevator ride of my life...
stickshiftsally

Jan 15 @ 8:31PM  
I learned infant CPR from a film when my son was hospitalized with a siezure disorder at 8 months. Had no idea I'd ever have to use it, but I had to do it several times while he was growing up. The realization that if I didn't do it he would die was very frightening to me, but I always managed to hold it all together until the crisis was over. (Then I fell apart in private!) I was so glad I paid attention to that film! You never know what you will do until the situation arises. Congratulatuons on helping that guy. You were in the right place at the right time.
TheClockmaker

Jan 23 @ 4:24PM  
OMGosh....lucky you were there to start assistance......I'll just bet his pulse went out of control when you sat on top of him though, mine would!!! (ducking and watching out for flying objects here ......just kiddingggggggggggg Something serious to consider, more of us need to learn lifesaving procedures!
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