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posted 6/27/2008 11:07:46 PM |
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  LongRanger278

71% of public schools report violent incidents each year. 96.7% of violent crime in America each year is committed by public school students, graduates and/or drop outs. Civilized society? nothing wrong with the public schools you say? everything AOK huh.

Funny the American people demand truth in politics and yet don't want to hear it hence, not a hot political topic. After all, pointing the finger right back at the American people would be political suicide and they know that. So if you all are looking for someone to blame, go buy a mirror.

Every election cycle it's the same problems. High gas prices, poor economy, etc, same old. If you people haven't got hip to this circus your freaken retarded. The real problems just keep getting bigger and the fictional problems are simply developed to keep you from prioritizing the problems.

Everybody knows the public schools are substandard. You want to talk about the single most largest threat to America's future? it's education and yet not a word from either political party.

In closing,

The American people have to put an end to this dog and pony show. If you are unwilling to accept the truth no truth will be spoken. In short, don't blame the politicians for telling you what you want to hear.

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Comments:
Ginstl

Jun 27 @ 11:24PM  
The only one I see complaining all the time is you! If you don't like all that is happening, Why don't you take the lead and do something about it?
LongRanger278

Jun 27 @ 11:33PM  
The only one I see complaining all the time is you!

Case in point. This person see's nothing wrong. Everything AOK
SallyF

Jun 27 @ 11:42PM  
That's a legitimate question---what WOULD you do about? Close the schools?
jadedbtch

Jun 28 @ 12:01AM  
The answer to that is parents need to be involved in every aspect of their children and that also includes school! Read to the kids, make it fun fo rthem to learn and most important I think is to lead be example! All the children are watching us!
LongRanger278

Jun 28 @ 12:06AM  
That's a legitimate question---what WOULD you do about? Close the schools?

If you read my blogs on the subject instead of what you usually do " spout at the mouth " you would know.

Pull your kids out of the system. The public schools system is so far gone they are beyond repair. The current influences on the system are as such to fix them would be political suicide hence, the best thing the American people can do is pull there children out of the system and let the public schools fail.
bardnsage

Jun 28 @ 12:10AM  
Two good points,,,,, bravo folks. No slam on the Long Ranger here, but all of us just repeating that it's a problem does nothing to fix it. It just feeds the cycle of bitch and do nothing that Mr. Ranger is pointing out.

For me,,,,first, I don't beleive the statistics. With the liberal mindset of the school system, if they generate the statistics, then telling little Johnny that 2 + 2 does not equal 5 is a violent attack on his self esteem. Or, that a student pushing another in the hall is a violent attack. I do agree that violence has no place in the schools, and even 1 incident is too many. The trouble is, when this incident occurs, we do not cull the herd.

For me, the only broad stroke answer to fixing the schools, is to introduce competition to the schools. Break up thier little monoploy of "education" and make them work for their students. Institute the voucher program, so all the local taxes and federal assistance funds attached to the child go with the child to whatever school they choose to attend. Then, drop the silly ass acredidation process, that insures the state mandated curriculum is followed, and tested,,,, so the schools will quit teaching to, and pandering to,,, the lowest common demoninator in the class.

Go sit and ask teachers what their real problems are with educating students, and you get a long list. Lack of administrative support, students in class for no other reason than free lunch - socializing - and drug sales, too many reports and papers required by the state - no time to teach, and the state mandated curiculum that ties the teachers hands. When you narrow it down, to the one biggest item, it's the inability of administration to support the teachers by removing the discipline problems and kids that are just too damn dumb to be there.

I don't agree that the problem is low pay. You don't give a raise to employees who are not performing. Now, if you were going to fire them all, raise the pay 80% to 100%, to attract the best and brightest teachers, and then have open compition for the jobs,,,,then maybe I'd agree higher wages would help. However, I don't think the NEA would go for that,,,,,, do you?
LongRanger278

Jun 28 @ 12:27AM  
The answer to that is parents need to be involved in every aspect of their children and that also includes school! Read to the kids, make it fun fo rthem to learn and most important I think is to lead be example! All the children are watching us!

Most of the parents are a product of the same learning environment. Read to the kids? the parents graduated reading at the 6th. grade level. What did they learn about leading by example in the public school system? How to wear a condom?

daisy315

Jun 28 @ 12:29AM  
my step son had severe learning disabilities due to his mothers drinking... their solution when he went into the 2nd grade?.. lets just dope him up and keep him quite.. they refused to let him in unless he was medicated.. but they didn't see what all those drugs did to himm after school.. he was starving himself to death.. having night terrors that sent him running down the middle of the road at 2am every night.. the crying jags because he KNEW what was happening to him..
I refused to dope him up.. they threatened to throw him out.. I told the powers that be that THEY were the proffessionals that were there to teach ALL the children.. they just needed to figure out a way to capture his attention..and keep it..
One good teacher was all it took .. one that ACTUALLY CARED about him.. third grade?.. no drugs.. period...
LongRanger278

Jun 28 @ 12:33AM  
For me, the only broad stroke answer to fixing the schools, is to introduce competition to the schools. Break up thier little monoploy of "education" and make them work for their students. Institute the voucher program, so all the local taxes and federal assistance funds attached to the child go with the child to whatever school they choose to attend.

Bingo. Why so many politicians, unions, special interest, etc. are against this is because it would be an end to the public school system as we know it. The only way to fix the public schools is by eliminating them and starting all over again. Let them compete for students.
LongRanger278

Jun 28 @ 12:41AM  
my step son had severe learning disabilities due to his mothers drinking... their solution when he went into the 2nd grade?.. lets just dope him up and keep him quite.. they refused to let him in unless he was medicated.. but they didn't see what all those drugs did to himm after school.. he was starving himself to death.. having night terrors that sent him running down the middle of the road at 2am every night.. the crying jags because he KNEW what was happening to him..
I refused to dope him up.. they threatened to throw him out.. I told the powers that be that THEY were the proffessionals that were there to teach ALL the children.. they just needed to figure out a way to capture his attention..and keep it..
One good teacher was all it took .. one that ACTUALLY CARED about him.. third grade?.. no drugs.. period...

I'm going to re-post a blog I did about teenage depression that deals with this.
imlost2

Jun 28 @ 8:45AM  
My town is so small we don't even have a stop light, I moved here from a big city on purpose. While in the bigger city it seemed the teachers just didn't care. While in this school my kids can't miss a day without me recieving a phone call. Their grades can't go down without me being notified of a problem. Their behavior is always in check. There are no fighting, guns, or major problems. Everyone is into sports, music, art, or something creative. Parents are active in their kids lives and it seems we all know where are children are at any given moment. Seems we all know each others kids. Hense we have a 95% graduation rate with a very high rate of kids going on to college. I live in a moderate, not rich area of southern people, the average pay for jobs. Not everyone lives in huge big houses or drive expensive cars, many ride the bus. Having said all this, they still say yes mamn, and no sir. We have the rifle team and no school shootings where sons hunt with their dads. My children are "A" and "B" students and I never help them with their homework, I tell them to be resourceful if they are having trouble, as they'd have to do that in the real world. It's worked fine as I won't do their homework for them. Having said this. Many of the schools of small towns are like this, I don't know why larger towns have so many problems. tc Lost
simplegal873

Jun 28 @ 8:53AM  
I finished with the public schools years ago.. mine are educated at home and are better off for it. The schools are like a black hole which suck money needlessly from each of us, and suck the self esteem out of our children as they watch the violence escalate and wonder if they are the next victim. Can children REALLY learn in that kind of environment? Oh, how dare we not gladly open our wallets because... "It's for the children!".. BS! I say. Education is BIG business and quite a few pockets are being lined, but unfortunately it isn't the teachers on the receiving end. It doesn't take 10k to educate a child.. nothing even close to that. In my perspective, what I see as a major problem in the schools is that the schools are attempting to do too much. Instead of providing the majority of a childs meals, providing day care before and after school, health care, social services etc., they should be EDUCATING and focus on that. Child care, provision of meals (well sure they should offer lunch), health care and so forth is and should be the responsibility of the parents. And the quality of the teachers?.. oh don't even get me started on this one!
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