| Jun 16 @ 6:19 PM |
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kjac
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I know there are a couple of browns fans here, and a lot of football fans. I just want to say that I won't be allowing another cent of my money to go towards any of the NFL coffers until Donte Stallworth is no longer playing. In other words...
Yes, I find 30 days in jail for murdering someone unacceptable. Do you?
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| Jun 16 @ 6:31 PM |
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Say_Yes
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It does say a lot about our judicial system, doesn't it. After all, Michael Vick does 2 years, for dog fighting, while driving drunk & killing someone, will get you 30 days. Something seems a bit out of whack there, if you ask me.
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| Jun 16 @ 6:32 PM |
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kjac
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It seems the judicial system values pit bulls over mexicans. 
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| Jun 18 @ 5:23 PM |
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capobeachguy
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Browns WR Stallworth suspended indefinitely by NFL
NEW YORK(AP) —The NFL has indefinitely suspended Cleveland Browns receiver Donte’ Stallworth(notes), who killed a pedestrian while driving drunk.
In a letter to Stallworth, NFL commissioner Robert Goodell said Thursday the player’s actions caused “irreparable harm to the victim and his family, your club, your fellow players and the NFL.” He will not be paid while suspended.
Stallworth pleaded guilty this month to a DUI manslaughter charge for striking Mario Reyes on March 14 in Florida. He began serving a 30-day jail sentence Tuesday and has reached a financial settlement with Reyes’ family.
After jail, he must serve two years of house arrest and spend eight years on probation. The house arrest provisions would allow him to resume playing.
For what it's worth, the victim was originally from Cuba.
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| Jun 18 @ 5:24 PM |
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kjac
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Ya beat me to it Capo. 
Looks like the Browns were right in assuming he was gone.
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| Jun 18 @ 5:47 PM |
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Say_Yes
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Gald to see that the NFL did the right thing, even if the judicial system did not.
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| Jun 18 @ 6:53 PM |
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Jankia
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It doesnt really matter if one is a football fan or not,its insane to give anyone a mere 30 days in jail for vehicular manslaughter.I have a neighbor thats been in the slammer 3 months for failure to pay his fine in operating a junk yard without a license.
Sure Stallworths driving priviledges are gone for life but thats not a reckoning,its a revocation that really isnt when you consider the paltry fine for driving without a license to a multi-millionaire.
get this...Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck. Good for him...he had ample time to warn the guy but didnt have time to brake or move to the side.
He should never be allowed back into sports,let him spend his Sundays having a beer in Vegas with Pete Rose. 
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| Jun 20 @ 11:43 PM |
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kjac
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What are the rules for cutting a player suspended indefinitely? Is there a cap hit? Do they have to pay this bum?
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| Jun 21 @ 6:46 PM |
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Jankia
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Nope,not unless they were stupid enough not to include a clause in his contract denying his salary if suspended by the league.
If he was suspended by the team I think that would be a different matter.
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| Jun 21 @ 9:25 PM |
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Say_Yes
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What are the rules for cutting a player suspended indefinitely? Is there a cap hit? Do they have to pay this bum?
Yes, they can cut him & as NFL salaries are not guaranteed, they would not have to pay him. If they did cut him, it would accelerate his signing bonus though, so it would likely mean a pretty big cap hit for this season. As for him being paid, while suspended, according to yahoo
Stallworth, who will not be paid during the suspension
In other news, on Stallworth (from the same article)
The night before the crash, Stallworth earned a $4.5 million roster bonus from the Browns, whose offseason moves indicated they were not counting on him.
So, while they don't have to pay his salary, while he is suspended, they will have to pay him the $4.5 million roster bonus.
Source - Yahoo News
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| Jun 23 @ 4:32 PM |
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1RockinDude
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Just think of so many people that drink..have drivin under The influece. That was never caught. Or anything bad happened. In this case ''money'' saved him a long time in prison..unlike common people that did not have the funds 
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| Jun 24 @ 8:59 AM |
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Say_Yes
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To put things into perspective, if you drive drunk & kill someone, you get 30 days in jail, but if you steal a bicycle, you get three years. Yep, that sounds about right.
A Sacramento man is facing prison for stealing Lance Armstrong’s bicycle while the seven-time Tour de France winner was competing in California.
Sacramento County court documents show 40-year-old Lee Crider is to be sentenced Monday to three years in prison for burglary and theft. He pleaded no contest June 1 to stealing Armstrong’s time trial bike and two other bikes from a trailer after the Sacramento prologue to the Tour of California in February.
Another man, 33-year-old Dung Hoang Le of Elk Grove, pleaded no contest June 1 to receiving stolen property. He has been sentenced to 90 days in jail, to be served on the sheriff’s work project.
A police report says he bought Armstrong’s $10,000 bike from Crider for $200. He later turned it in to police.
Source - Yahoo Sports
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| Jun 24 @ 9:54 AM |
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capobeachguy
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In fairness, the Yahoo article omitted this:
On April 7, 2009, the Sacramento Police Department added the charge of burglary on Lee Crider, who was already in custody on a parole violation. Dung Le was arrested at his home without incident.
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I still have a problem as to why the drunk driving which resulted in death was not prosecuted as second degree murder.
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| Jun 24 @ 2:45 PM |
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kjac
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As for the Stallworth thing, this is what I gathered from the stories.
Cutting him now would cause a 7.1 million dollar cap hit.
If there is no collective bargaining agreement in place by next year, as is expected, there will be no salary cap next year. And therefore no cap hit to take.
Since it's very apparent that Stallworth won't be playing this year anyway, it seems that it would make more sense for the team to let him sit suspended for a year, then cut him.
The funny thing is, the suspension seems to have worked in the Browns' favor. They were trying to figure out how to get rid of him without taking a cap hit before this happened.
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