| Mar 30, 2007 @ 12:46 AM |
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RANDY72
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No we are all dogs . we all go after any woman in sight . as long as she's breathing she's fair game. we don't care about the ones we may hurt . we have no feelings . Hollywood has us down cold. Just watch shallow hal . Even if we are locked in a room our minds wander . Don't trust us . we can't be trusted.I'm telling you.
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| Mar 30, 2007 @ 10:53 AM |
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Pete73052
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Shallow Hal?
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| Mar 30, 2007 @ 11:31 AM |
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EternalFlame
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Shallow Hal....funny movie starring Jack Black and Gwenyth Paltrow.
I'm assuming that Randy72 posted entirely tongue in cheek? At least I'm hoping.... 
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| Mar 30, 2007 @ 10:52 PM |
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Pete73052
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Yes, I know the movie - it doesn't make sense with what he was describing ... that is to say, there are probably better examples of Hollywood's portrayal of unfaithful men - Shallow Hal was shallow, but not unfaithful. (And I get that the rant was tongue-in-cheek).
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| Mar 31, 2007 @ 10:27 AM |
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EternalFlame
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Actually Pete, I was trying to find out if he was indeed posting tongue in cheek, or if he's actually that much of a jerk.... 
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| Mar 31, 2007 @ 11:47 AM |
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Pete73052
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Well, aren't we all? But now that you mention it... there is room for interpretation in his post.
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| Apr 7, 2007 @ 6:12 PM |
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TempleDog100
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yeah we can be faithful. Your not going to find many that will be at the clubs though.
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| Apr 7, 2007 @ 8:36 PM |
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Pete73052
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Why not? 
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 12:35 AM |
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ad33
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I was married for 11 years, and I must admit I did cheat on her. Specifically because I found out(from her)that she had cheated. I fell into that trap. I didn't really want to cheat; I mean I didn't have someone all picked out or the whole thing planned. I went through with it, but honestly, I was uncomfortable. I had it in my head that it would teach her a lesson, and make me feel better.Unfortunately, it did the opposite. I actually felt worse. She ended up cheating a few more times, but I did not. I finally told her to hit the road. Anyways, I can honestly say because of my experience that yes I would be faithful. Not much chance for true friendship/relationship if there's suspiscion of infidelity. I would rather be able to enjoy my lady rather than make her worry.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 12:49 AM |
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ad33
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You know, I just realized there are a lot of responses to your question that say
"can any woman be faithful"? I just wanted to say that the question didn't ask about women. In other words, there are a lot of guys out there on the defensive.
To them I say answer the question, and stop thinking automatically that someone's questioning their integrity. It only requires a simple yes or no answer, and maybe share an experience.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 1:01 AM |
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ad33
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Sorry Pete 73052 newlife 2006 is right. It's all cheating if you want or even fantisize about anyone else, and the only person who knows is yourself.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 1:19 AM |
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ad33
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Pete I gotta tell you your wrong no matter how you look at it. The Bible tells us that if one of our eyes causes us to sin; in other words we see a pretty girl(no matter who's single and who's not)or we have a thought to steal something etc....we should gouge it out. For it is better to lose the eye and still be able to go to Heaven. This was only a metaphor but you get the point. Yes it's in the New Testament too. Your just trying to make excuses to be able to "get away with it"
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 1:40 AM |
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ad33
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Pete and Cowboy I think you are both BIG JERKS,you both have some sad sad misconceptions on how a relationship between a man and woman is to be. A lot of women are in the same boat I wont deny, but thats not the issue at hand, you are.
You both should learn what the words honor, respect, and most of FAITHFULNESS mean. You both have a lot of growing up to do, and if keep the attitudes you have towards women and what you perceive to be ok for a man to get away with then you will NEVER find true hapiness in a relationship. Your turning a blind eye to what you know is really wrong just like there are churches who preach the Gospel, and they're all gay and lesbian. They choose to turn a blind eye to the immorality that God implicitly shuns as sin. I'm not comparing you to them except your turning a blind eye to what you don't want to accept as being wrong.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 12:44 PM |
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EternalFlame
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ad...can you say HYPOCRITE?
Don't go preaching your precious bible when you yourself admitted to breaking one of your sacred laws, the 10 Commandments.
So basically you're saying it's a sin to admire the beauty around you...what a sad life you must lead, with your eyes always cast to the ground.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 1:55 PM |
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Pete73052
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EF, don't pay this guy a second thought - it's obviously a fake profile, probably Newlife seeking to have the last word here. Look at the stats - they don't add up. But addressing the Bible-thumping position (s)he has tried to shove down everyone's throat, I think you've nailed it - hypocrite - and clearly a dumb-ass (my wife cheated on me so I had to go out and do the same thing  ) - gimme a break.
Get the name ad33 - he's here to spread the gospel... and he's pretty much got it wrong anyway - but I love getting into it with these born-again Christains who haven't a clue about true Christianity. Unfortunately Newlife and her clone ad33 don't have the brainpower to carry on a reasonably intelligent conversation about these things - they're too busy gay-bashing in the name of The Lord. Losers not worth our time here  .
BTW, anybody here interested in a "heaven" populated by these wierdos? I'd rather be around honest people. 
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 3:12 PM |
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ad33
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EternaI Flame,
think you had better go back and read the original question and follow down the conversation, and see how we got to this point. I have made mistakes, but my iniquities are not the issue here. What is the issue is what is cheating and what is not. Besides don't go judging me because that is NOT your perogative, and I resent it. So don't do it. Also, I have made peace with my maker over those things. Don't try to turn this around and attack me stick to the issue. It's not about what I've done in the past. If I want to quote the Bible to make a point I damn sure will. If you don't like it, well that's just too bad for you.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 3:32 PM |
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ad33
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Now who's twisting things around to fit their own purpose......hhmmmmm?????
If you knew anyhting about what the Bible says and/or anything about my life you wouldn't be talking all that crap that's coming out of your pie hole. I wasn't trying to justify my mistakes, I was simply trying to remind you of what's moral and what's not. This isn't about my mistakes like I told EternalFlame. It's about what is acceptable and what is not in God's eyes. As far as what you call gay bashing I was not. I was using it as an example. If you preach, and expect forgiveness from God, then you are supposed to turn away from your sin and do it no more. There are churches all over as such that I mentioned. If you would simply take what I posted at face value, and you wouldn't be trying to attack me trying to twist my words and use them against me. Like I said before, you've got some growing up and maturing to do and experiencing life. When that time comes you might look back, remember this conversation and think to yourself that I was right. Until then, I will pray for you. I don't hate you for being human and having your opinions, but I'm not going to allow you to attack me and not defend myself. If you and whoever else insist on twisting things around like that to suit your purpose instead of sticking to the issue, then it's just like I said; you're just turning a blind eye as to what the truth is.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 4:45 PM |
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Pete73052
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Now who's twisting things around to fit their own purpose......hhmmmmm?????
Um... YOU? You just asked EternalFlame not to judge you yet you are here to judge everyone else. 
If you knew anyhting about what the Bible says and/or anything about my life you wouldn't be talking all that crap that's coming out of your pie hole.
Yeah, yeah, they all talk tough when they've got nothing to say. What I'm telling you is that YOU don't get what the Bible says, friend.
I wasn't trying to justify my mistakes, I was simply trying to remind you of what's moral and what's not.
As a public service I suppose. Now wouldn't that be a lot of crap coming out of a pie hole as well?
This isn't about my mistakes like I told EternalFlame.
Of course it isn't. Hypocrisy is not your problem - just like it isn't the church's problem.
It's about what is acceptable and what is not in God's eyes.
And when will you admit you haven't got a clue what that might be?
As far as what you call gay bashing I was not. I was using it as an example.
Save it for someone who might fall for this crap. You are using your twisted version of the Bible to preach your twisted version of morality - nothing more. You're an embarassment to true Christians.
If you preach, and expect forgiveness from God, then you are supposed to turn away from your sin and do it no more.
Born again, born again, thanks be to Jesus, I'm born again... Now, I think I'll go find people I can pick on in the name of Jesus... tell them what sinners they are so they can be just like me... born again...  Thanks Newlife, we've already heard this song and dance from you...
There are churches all over as such that I mentioned. If you would simply take what I posted at face value, and you wouldn't be trying to attack me trying to twist my words and use them against me.
Your words, my friend, are against God. There is no face value there - there is no value there at all. God loves everyone, not just the ones you decide He should love (or the ones the Ecumenical Council of Nicea decided He should love). God would probably have less use for a judgmental hypocrite like you - who spreads hate in God's name than he would for me - a guy who admires the waitresses ass once in a while. Think about it.
Like I said before, you've got some growing up and maturing to do and experiencing life. When that time comes you might look back, remember this conversation and think to yourself that I was right.
That day will never come. You are nothing more than another confused Christian wannabe - a sheep that will follow any shepherd without questioning. Not only will I never respect someone like that, I won't give them more than a moment's thought after having discovered who they are.
Until then, I will pray for you.
Yeah, they always do... so far God hasn't answered the prayers of dozens like you who pray for me to find the light and wisdom of using the Bible to bash people over the head with. Please consider focusing your efforts on people a lot stupider than me - I don't fall for this type of crap - not even on Easter Sunday. 
I don't hate you for being human and having your opinions, but I'm not going to allow you to attack me and not defend myself.
I'm not attacking you, my friend, I'm not allowing you to attack others. See your own words here "Pete and Cowboy I think you are both BIG JERKS" - nobody provoked that response from you - you came here with several posts in a row and resorted to namecalling. That's not called "defending" that's called "attacking".
If you and whoever else insist on twisting things around like that to suit your purpose instead of sticking to the issue, then it's just like I said; you're just turning a blind eye as to what the truth is.
Well, I'm afraid you're the one that's blind, friend - maybe from all that gouging out the eye that offends thee crap you've had to do. The issue, in case you haven't noticed, is - "Can any man truly be faithful?" - it's not a Biblical question, it's not about biblical morality - it's about being faithful to a partner, self-control, limits people set on what constitutes being unfaithful, etc. By bringing the Bible into this discussion you have taken the topic away from the issue. And that, friend, is the TRUTH.
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 7:39 PM |
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kattsmeow
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Well, well, what do we have here? Yes, a man can be faithful. So can a woman.
Bring God into it when you are talking about the marriage of two people.
Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking.
It is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.
I Corinthians 13:4-8
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| Apr 8, 2007 @ 8:16 PM |
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Pete73052
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Yep!
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