| Oct 23, 2006 @ 1:15 AM |
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Dovestreasure

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As we all know Prostitution is illegal (a misdemeanor) except in certain counties of Nevada. Visiting a prostitute is illegal also. Some jurisdictions will take your car if you used it to attempt to hire a prostitute; others will publish your name in local newspapers. The police are allowed to and actually do undertake sting operations. Police stings include street walkers and much less frequently escort services and massage parlours.
In Orlando there is a street called Orange Blossom Trail . It is synomymous with prostitution and adult entertainment. In a recent sting on the trail last month there was a nonstop parade of people arrested on drug, prostitution, drunken-driving, domestic-violence and aggravated-assault charges.
Twenty were arrested by the sheriff's Tactical Anti-Crime Unit, which was targeting drug dealers and prostitutes on South Orange Blossom Trail, a hub for violence.Frequent sweeps often cause overcrowding at the jails.Ultimately, the sweeps and higher jail populations will also impact the court system with more cases and hearings.The bottom line its going to cost more money for the tax payers.
Do you know there was a time that hookers were actually heros.........
Prostitutes were foremost among the bold pioneer women who tamed the American West of the 1800s.
Due to the harsh living conditions and predominately masculine work opportunities on the frontier, women were generally rare among the pioneers of the westward expansion of the United States during the 1800s. Indeed, the ratio of men to women in some areas was as great as 45 to one. Prostitutes were the exception; thousands worked in brothels, dance halls, saloons, cribs, shacks, and streets, providing female companionship for the lonely prospectors, cowboys, and soldiers who tamed the West.
In so doing, prostitutes helped populate the land--as this famous poem from San Francisco explains:
The miners came in '49, The whores in '51, And when they got together, They produced the native son.
Census-takers canvassing the frontier found that many prostitutes were single parents, using their earnings to support children. Some of these women teamed up, sharing living quarters and the responsibilities of caring for their offspring and each other, especially in times of illness. Others, such as successful prostitute/madam Ella Hill of Amarillo, Texas, paid for their children to be brought up by reputable families or boarding schools elsewhere. Descendants of prostitutes surely comprise a substantial portion of the population of the western states today.
So what are your feelings on the worlds oldest profession ??? Should it be legalized?? Is it immoral?? Are there victims in this crime??? Is it the social evil as it was once in Victorian times??? Does Prostitution contribute to society???
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| Oct 23, 2006 @ 1:21 AM |
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zeno333789

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If "somehow" a form of legal prostitiution could be arranged that would cause many if not most of the sexual predators that prey on our precious innocent kids to no longer want to do that, then maybe, just maybe it could have some good in it. I think it would be awfully hard to come up with such a system...Even if some social genius out there could come up with a system, somehow politcs would probably foul it all up anyway.
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| Oct 23, 2006 @ 9:35 AM |
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jackf1950

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well, it's gonna happen, just about everywhere... so why not legalize it, like in Nevada, so it can be regulated, and tax it.......and that ain't just a perv talking...if it was regulated, perhaps a lot less women would be "turned out"....safer sex, and environments...
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| Oct 23, 2006 @ 5:33 PM |
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outlaw_star

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If "somehow" a form of legal prostitiution could be arranged
I think they already have a legal form of prostitution as Jack said "in Nevada" where prostititution is legal and I believe regulated and no politics are involved since they are 'customers' of those legal brothols and it would look embarassing if word got out about that
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| Oct 23, 2006 @ 5:38 PM |
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witchietoo

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Other country's do also. I have no issue with it being legal, at least if they had healthcare, it may help control some of the things that go along with the business. I also think it would be safer for them to have them off the street. This goes for both male and female. You wouldn't have John's beating them and taking everything.
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| Oct 23, 2006 @ 10:53 PM |
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zeno333789

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You misquoted me...I said...
"If "somehow" a form of legal prostitiution could be arranged that would cause many if not most of the sexual predators that prey on our precious innocent kids to no longer want to do that, then maybe, just maybe it could have some good in it."
I was referring to a specific form of legal prostitution that would help get rid of child predators. i am fully aware that it is legal in some areas.
[Edited on 10/24/2006 12:51 AM]
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 12:39 AM |
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Dovestreasure

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I personally feel that sex for money is wrong Prostitutes are victims of physical abuse and frequently suffer from homelessness, alcoholism and dependency on drugs. Prostitutes have often been sexually and/or physically abused while growing up and they may suffer from low self esteem. However if I put aside my moral issues on this I can see how legalizing prostitution can benefit the ladies of the night and society.
I have always felt that prostitution is a victimless crime between two consenting adults.There are many benefits to legalized prostitution. The benefits include allowing law enforcement agencies to respond to more important crimes, freeing our over taxed justice systems from nuisance cases, helping women who are entrapped by prostitution, and preventing teens from being involved into prostitution. Making prostitution legal and regulated will stop pimps and organized crime figures in their tracks.They will no longer treat these women as less then human
Countries without anti-prostitution laws have less murders, less rapes, and prosecute/imprison less people. HIV/AIDS is less of a problem; suicide rates are lower as well as divorce rates.
[Edited on 10/24/2006 1:11 AM]
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 1:00 AM |
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zeno333789

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Agreed that there are many moral issues from the womans point of view, but there are moral issues from the man's point of view also. that stems from the fact that sex with a mental "commitment" behind it is just better than sex for money with no mental commitment behind it.
This reasoning is one of the foundations for most restrictions on pleasure no matter what kind it may be, especially in the religious community. Sex in and of it self is not wrong, and pleasure in and of it self is not wrong, but it can be argued that not enjoying sex to its full potential is indeed wrong, and prostitution because of its very nature does not allow anyone to enjoy sex to its full poetential, that being sex with a deep mental commitment betwen the 2 people engaged in the act.
[Edited on 10/24/2006 1:08 AM]
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 3:00 AM |
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Dovestreasure

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I do not think the men seeking out the services of a hooker are looking for a mental commitment..however there are some men that will pay a hooker for her company, they are just yearning for female companionship.
I have a male friend whose dad took him to a brothel in Nevada for his 21st birthday. Thats where he lost his virginity. Dad wanted to make sure his first time was pressure free.
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 8:38 AM |
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Greystone1

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This reasoning is one of the foundations for most restrictions on pleasure no matter what kind it may be, especially in the religious community. Sex in and of it self is not wrong, and pleasure in and of it self is not wrong, but it can be argued that not enjoying sex to its full potential is indeed wrong, and prostitution because of its very nature does not allow anyone to enjoy sex to its full poetential, that being sex with a deep mental commitment betwen the 2 people engaged in the act.
By that reasoning, steak is better than hamburger, therefore hamburger should be illegal.
Countries without anti-prostitution laws have less murders, less rapes, and prosecute/imprison less people. HIV/AIDS is less of a problem; suicide rates are lower as well as divorce rates.
Most of the violence associated with prostitution is caused by the prostitution laws, not the prostitution. This is true of all victimless crimes. The laws cause the violence.
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 6:39 PM |
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zeno333789

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Only if one compares a sex partner to a piece of meat.
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 10:30 PM |
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Dovestreasure

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Most of the violence associated with prostitution is caused by the prostitution laws, not the prostitution. This is true of all victimless crimes. The laws cause the violence. Studies conducted with women who had prostituted themselves for at least six months found that half the women had been physically assaulted by their purchasers, they were beaten severely enough to have suffered broken bones. some experienced violence so vicious that they were beaten into a coma. Furthermore,most of the women in this study had experienced violence in their personal relationships resulting in miscarriage, stabbing, loss of consciousness, and head injuries. More then fifty percent of prostitutes have been physically and sexually abused as children. These Women are trapped in a cycle of violence . Its what they are use to and many of them are to fearful to reach out for help.
Prostitution has much in common with other kinds of violence against women.Prostitution is socially tolerated no one seems terribly disturbed when a prostitute is found dead on the side of the road.Clearly, violence is the norm for women in prostitution. Incest, sexual harassment, verbal abuse, stalking, rape, battering and torture are all regular occurances in prostitution.So I think its not the laws that produce the violence, but rather the way these women ( and men ) are viewed in society. which also includes how they view themselves.
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 11:15 PM |
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Kenn159

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I wouldnt have a problem with it if I knew it was the womens choice and that she wasnt being forced into it.. I dont know much about the Nevada brothels ,but I think it would be a womens choice to work there ,and I guess they have security there so they dont get hurt. 60 minutes or somebody should do a segment on the brothels in Nevada and delve into the lives of the girls that work there . This would be nice to see how well this Nevada system works .
Do these women have a right to say no to a customer? I mean lets say some guy come in that has slime goo coming from his nose and he hasnt taken a bath for a week do it. Lets hope so,
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| Oct 24, 2006 @ 11:30 PM |
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Dovestreasure

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Even though the brothels consider prostitutes to be independent contractors the prostitutes do not have the control or freedom that independent contractors or sole proprietors have. If they decide to refuse a customer, management must be provided with what it deems an acceptable reason.They might be rude, rough, or drunk, want too much for their money, have an attitude problem, or just simply be a moron.She must justify her right to refuse business, even though she loses money herself by doing so.
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| Oct 25, 2006 @ 12:19 PM |
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Desserts

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Prostitution is legal in one form or another in most of the civilized world, so; the question is are we right & the rest of the world wrong.I feel the law prohibiting this is meant to punish immorality, in that how can it be legal to give something away & illegal to charge for it. For me it is apparent the bases for this stems from moral judgement & religious beliefs.Victimless, moral or not the concept is for one to recive a service for a fee, the violence is caused by the same reason other violent crimes are rampart, our criminal justice system is the twilight zone. Yea it des attract the wayward, previuosly abused, disenchanted, & drug addicts, ( how drug addiction is handled by our justice system is another joke ) but; does it not make sense that some of these ladies have enough problems with out being harassed,stigmatized, ( which only reinforces the way they feel about themselves) & being forced into a much more dangerous way of doing business.Does it not make more sense enabling them to have a safe work enviroment so maybe they can work on any core issues which may have led them to this profession.PS. I am ot for legalization of drugs, but' one has to admit this so called 40 odd yr. war on drugs is not going well, & as with prostitution much of the violence comes from the way it is treated criminally.
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| Oct 25, 2006 @ 1:24 PM |
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pagan380

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Prostitution is only illegal for the poor. The $1,000.00 a night girls have no problem staying out of trouble with all the names in their little black books to cover for them.
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| Oct 26, 2006 @ 11:54 AM |
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Dovestreasure

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1000.00 dollars a night i need to change jobs
We all know that prostitution is not going anywhere and every time a prostitute is arrested it does nothing to deter her from hooking again. Its a revolving door crime. We as a society would benefit from legalization. Making prostitution legal will allow the act to be managed instead of ignored. Pimps and organized crime figures, who regularly treat their workers on subhuman levels, would no longer control women. In some countries, prostitute rings buy and sell women on the black market, force their women to comply through violence and create unhealthy working conditions. When prostitutes operate independently and in secret, many times they become abused by their own customers. Legalizing prostitution would prevent underground prostitution that occurs today. When men want to pay for sex, they find prostitutes Legalized, regulated prostitution has many benefits. Encounters can happen within controlled environments that bring about safety for both the customers and the prostitutes. Prostitutes would no longer be strong-armed by pimps or organized crime rings. Underage prostitution would be curtailed. There would also be health-safety improvements. There would be financial benefits as well . Prostitutes would be tax paying citizens.
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| Oct 26, 2006 @ 1:20 PM |
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fuchia04

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I think anti-prostitution laws are pointless and maybe even counter-productive. As was already mentioned here, this only causes hookers to go underground and into a dangerous environment of violence, pimps, rape, and STD's. If it were legalized, then all this could be regulated. I believe, absent these dangers that prostitution really is a victimless crime. Besides, what place is it, for the government to stick it's nose in the bedroom. I believe, whether or not money changes hands, that what two consenting adults do in bed is their business and theirs alone.
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| Oct 26, 2006 @ 8:25 PM |
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westpalmbeach

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It will never go away legalize it, control it, TAX it!! EXPOSURE!!!
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| Oct 26, 2006 @ 9:25 PM |
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Dovestreasure

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Prostitution has been criminalized, repressed, and fought against in many different societies and for many different reasons.... one very vocal complaint is that it is simply contrary to God's will.
I could never understand why acting in pornographic movies is legal. People can be paid for having sex in front of a camera and yet prostitution is still illegal. Makes no sense at all.
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