| Jan 3, 2007 @ 11:52 PM |
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fuchia04
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Okay, how many of you have been to Disney in the last twelve months ...or would like to go again soon? Who knows? I may go in the next month. I know there were been threads a few months ago, about Disney and other theme parks but it's late at night and my memory's kinda fuzzy about all that, so sorry if I happen to be covering previously covered ground here. 
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| Jan 4, 2007 @ 1:22 AM |
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Dovestreasure
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Not only do I do Disney, I do it rather well. Walter Elias Disney has been my hero and among the strongest influences in my life. I live in Orlando to be close to my favorite place in all the world. I still get excited seeing Cinderella's castle after all these years. My last vsit to Disney World was in June. We went to Epcot. I gave my daughter a seasonal pass for Christmas, now I have to save for one of my own.
Fuchia as far as I am concerned Disney is a topic worth repeating as often as possible 
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| Jan 4, 2007 @ 8:57 AM |
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witchietoo
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Yup I'm guilty, I do Disney and have since they first opened. I was even there a couple of weeks ago, with someone that  has never been there. I dragged him to Magic Kingdom and Epcot. Oh and then Disney Village the next day...lol I love going there...granted if it wasn't for family that works there I wouldn't go as much as I do. Me being an animal freak, I tend to go to Animal Kingdom alone, just so I can take my time and relax. Oh and we go there for dinner for my birthday and my dads, wrapped into one day. Of course we go for the food and wine and the flower show....so I normally go at least 4 times a year if not a lot more...lol
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| Jan 4, 2007 @ 8:50 PM |
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fuchia04
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All the way back in the summer of '90 I went to Disney with my Dad, brother and sister. We got to choose a park. I wanted to go to the Epcot Center because I really, really wanted to visit that golf-ball thingy in the center and see what was inside. I got my wish. It was a very neat experience. I haven't been to any other parks in Disney World, so I've always wanted to go visit them as well. I have also been to Disneyland in California. That was in the summer of '96. It seems to resemble the Magic Kingdom most.
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| Jan 4, 2007 @ 9:12 PM |
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suzieq0808
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No. My parents brought my neice to visit 10 years ago. Since she was a 7-year-old, we all agreed that she MUST go to the Magic Kingdom. We argued about who was to take her. "I don't want to. You do it." "No, not me." "If you take her, I'll pay for the tickets." I took my daughter who was 10 at the time and the 7-year-old. That was the only really enjoyable time I've had at Disney because I so appreciated seeing the girls have such a wonderful time. I live in the opposite corner of Orlando on purpose. I avoid the tourist areas like the plague. Too expensive, too crowded, and too plastic.
Okay, leaving the thread now 'cause I think this is really an "I love Disney" thread. 
Enjoy.
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| Jan 4, 2007 @ 9:20 PM |
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LostInOzBabe
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I haven't been to a theme park since Grad Night 1997. Sad, I know, but it's impossible to find people willing to go with me when I'm able to go.
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| Jan 4, 2007 @ 9:48 PM |
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fuchia04
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Ahh, but don't let that stop from doing what you wanna do. Life is too short for that. If you can't find someone to go with, just go by yourself. Trust me, it'll still be fun and very well worth it. 
And who knows, you might even make a friend while you're there.
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 12:04 AM |
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Dovestreasure
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I have visited Disney with a large entourage in tow, with my family and all on my lonesome. What ever the circumstances I still love it. The minute I step on Disney property all my cares and woes are left behind. I find it enchanting and endearing.I love to watch the delight in children seeing the parks for the very first time. Yes it is very costly these days but once I am inside those gates the cost is replaced by pure magic.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 12:10 AM |
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JMW32792
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The meetupdotcom Disney group is doing Animal Kingdom the 13th, can't wait to ride everest! Any passholders here want to come along or you can buy a park admission but I never did think AK warranted the price of a single park admission of almost $70.00 with the short operating hours and there really isn't enough there to merit 70.00 not in my opinion anyway.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 12:37 AM |
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Kenn159
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I avoid the tourist areas like the plague. Too expensive, too crowded, and too plastic.
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I agree with you on the cost,but some of the parks have a alright deal on the year passes.
Crowded,sometimes crowds of people can be fun ,unless the crowds are in cars and your in a traffic jam.
Plastic,I like diversity,plastic one day and the realness of natural florida next.
I have a limited quota for plastic but never get tired of exploring the wonders of the planet.
Life is an adventure,just have fun in whatever you like to do.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 2:55 AM |
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pixie2hug
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I must admit, I have never been to Disney World  But have been to Disneyland about 200 times......lol.......I really do want to go, and stay a week or so, I hear, you can get good package deals, I wonder if it's worth it to stay in the park, I know out in Calif, it was very expensive to stay in the park, but for a grown up, I can't wait to go, Walt Diney and I have the same birthday too, so it's fate. 
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 4:42 AM |
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Lovesoldier
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Although I appreciate some of the old classics like Fantasia, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, and Pinocchio, I see little reason to get involved in them anymore, especially since the movies the Disney Corporation releases--Walt Disney died in 1966--have rescinded adult themes for ones palatable to adults wanting something for their children that has absolutely no controversy, at all.
Walt Disney wasn't like that. He liked literature. He produced propaganda during World War II. He also supported the blacklisting of other Hollywood personnel, an objective we now know to be hostile to the United States Constitution. We dubbed that period the Joe McCarthy Era, among other bad things. This just serves as a reminder to people of today that communism is not a violence problem; fascism is. The entire time the U.S. Congress was out witch hunting, they were ignoring the main ideal set forth by the Constitution: peaceful freedom. Instead of peace and freedom, they were abusing people with careers in the movie industry by dictating and threatening studios about whom they could employ. As a result, several children went underfed because executives prevented their fathers from working. Just to make myself clear, the Constitution ALWAYS supports a family needing food on the table, bread and butter. What does curiosities in personal beliefs have to do with a family needing to eat? Blaming adults means blaming children. It affects the families those adults support. The United States can't take one hand and claim freedom while, with the other, prevent citizens from working.
So, to answer the question, I do Disney, but only when it's important. Lately, the Disney Corporation cranks out a bunch of so-called children's movies because it's making enough money doing it. I would do it too if parents were so gullible to teach their children to live in Fantasyland. I prefer to teach myself Fantasyland exists, but only for a little while. This Disney Company goes on too long. Life is not depicted correctly in those films; they are too afraid to take the chances Walt did! Even when they do some good work, it doesn't mean anything anymore.
I would much rather talk about something else.
Oh, I almost forgot. Disney World is fine, but I've been there so many times, I'm all moused out. Central Florida is full of theme parks. And, if you know the difference between a park from a theme park, it's in that it has something to sell. I'm tired of buying advertisements. I would go only when dragged by friends. There's so many other, more realistic things to do than to visit ANOTHER Florida theme park. Personally, I'd rather go to a movie, listen to music, visit a museum, walk through a nature park, or crash my car from driving too fast.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 10:35 AM |
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Dovestreasure
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Lately, the Disney Corporation cranks out a bunch of so-called children's movies because it's making enough money doing it. I would do it too if parents were so gullible to teach their children to live in Fantasyland. I prefer to teach myself Fantasyland exists, but only for a little while .
Disney creates public imaginary worlds of childhood. Even more children will be immersed in private imaginary worlds. Three-year-olds will spend all day in the company of tigers and princesses and superheroes. Older children will invent entire fictional universes .The fantastic world of children's books and films is only the tip of the iceberg of children's imaginary lives. Happy, healthy children are, if anything, more likely to be immersed in a world of fantastic daydreams, public or private, than unhappy or troubled children.Fantasy play allows children to learn freely without the constraints of adulthood.
The difference between adults and children is that for most adults, most of the time, imagination is constrained by practicality.This marvelous, wonderful, and fantastic world of make believe does not have to be the natural territory of childhood. Walt Disney World makes it possible for fantasy to take flight once again no matter your age. Of course it all has to do with mindset. When you visit the parks and focus in on "am I getting good value for my money", or saying "this place is too plastic for me". You certainly will miss out on the pure joy of imagination at its best. My imagination has no bounderies and I am pleased to know that "growing up" has not stifled this in me.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 3:43 PM |
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suzieq0808
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Of course it all has to do with mindset. When you visit the parks and focus in on "am I getting good value for my money", or saying "this place is too plastic for me". You certainly will miss out on the pure joy of imagination at its best.
I'm not missing out on anything. I'm an artist; we're known for our exceptionally grand imaginations. Others aside from artists don't require Disney, Universal, etc. to exercise their imaginations. "Best" is certainly up for interpretation. To each his/her own -- without judgement or condemnation. 
I didn't post to argue anyone over to "my side." Disney fans, please enjoy Disney and all that stuff over there but don't insist there's something missing from our lives because some of us don't.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 4:05 PM |
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outlaw_star
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Nope, havent done Disney since I graduated from high school, not sure I want to do Disney again either
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 4:56 PM |
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Dovestreasure
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Suzie there was no condemnation in my statement of any sort. We all get out of an experience what we choose to get. I know you have some imagination after all how many folks go around dressing like the statue of liberty. I just get such joy out of Disney. This started in early childhood and never went away. I also get pure bliss in sitting on a Mountain top enjoying the serenity of nature. I love dancing in the rain, splashing in mud puddles and blowing bubbles. The simplicity of childhood has never went away. It makes this world a better place to be. Walt Disney has helped foster this in me. Life is my canvas and the possibilities are endless.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 7:28 PM |
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Kenn159
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I guess Disney means differnt things to different people ,kinda like your favorite song .
Your song might have a special meaning to you the listener and maybe it represents a time and a feeling that is special to you,and the meaning to you might be totally different from the songs writer ,kind of like it took on a life of its own once it left the source.
The same can be said for Disney,it may remind a adult of the special time they spent there as a child and for them will always have a special place in their heart.
Just as everyone has a different perspective and feeling about Disney ,mine as a child was a bit uneek.
My Dad was boycotting Disney because he didnt believe in Disneys political practices,at the time I didnt really know anything about those issues ,I just knew he didnt agree with Disneys politics.
As I became more politically aware, I too did not agree with some of his public political statements ,but he has been gone for a number of years now ,so obviously that is no longer a issue.
I do believe in supporting businesses with your wallet/pocketbook that
share you beliefs and ethics,and I dont agree with the fact that Disney dropped Farenhiet 911 because they had future business dealing with the brother of the president to which the film was critical.
Although they do have Gay Day ,its nice to see a organization that excepts gay people,in a era of gay bashing .
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 10:25 PM |
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Dovestreasure
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Disney has sensibly earned a good reputation by becoming an increasingly gay-friendly workplace. Disney offers same sex spouses health insurance benefits. I think its great that Disney acknowledges and respects differences in people. I'm not so sure how Walt would have felt about all this after all he was trying to project this wholesome family image. I for one think the Disney corporation has it right.
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| Jan 10, 2007 @ 6:16 PM |
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Lovesoldier
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I can appreciate "Gay Day" at Disney World, like Ken159 mentioned, although I'm not sure how this relates.
And, like Dovestreasure mentioned, I can appreciate movies that appeal to the imaginations of people of all ages.
But, I am certain that Disney hasn't made a movie in a long time that compelled me to visit the cinema; at least, not in the department of proverbial children's films. It seems a lot of children's movies come out today and make little difference. Yet, Disney has been one company that hasn't suffered in their reputation for doing what they do.
This partly concerns their reputations: as Ken159 also mentioned, they refused to distribute "Fahrenheit 9/11" while mentioning their stockholders. There's irony in the fact that they should talk about their stockholders when "Fahrenheit 9/11" made more money than ANY OTHER Disney company or affiliate movie made the year of its release. And, Michael Moore received critical attention from all over the world, including the top grand-jury prize Palm d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival, the France-based equivalent to the Academy Award Oscar ceremony which has a higher reputation than the latter, and with Roger Ebert, recipient of the Pulitzer Prize for his film reviews, who even met Michael Moore on a talk show and thanked him. But, Disney disregarded the quality of Moore's film, based on the content!
Moore's film was the hit of the year! Not many films achieve greatness each year, but this one qualifies as great. The Disney Company will be infamously remembered as the movie production company that DID NOT distribute Mike Moore's film. Thanks go to Bob and Harvey Weinstein instead.
Whether one appreciates "Gay Day" at Disney World or not isn't my point. The Disney Studio came into this world near the beginning of the cinema causing revelations in its history. Since then, it has descended to meager-mindedness.
Anyway, if you look at the current trends, "Gay Day" is not greatly controversial. Disney subscribes to consumers around the world. Although homosexuality isn't popular in Disney's native country, I hardly think the company is being controversial by embracing something that has never been considered a problem anywhere else.
Regarding its films, the company hasn't always been ready to attack principles the way it should. It has refused to provide the world with a home video release of Song of the South because of its racial theme, despite the good quality of the film. It has omitted and computer-altered (read: censored) ALL home video versions of the original Fantasia thus far, including the most recent DVD. And in the 1990s, the company withdrew Captain EO (1986), an excellent twenty-minute, "3-D" science fiction movie directed by Francis Ford Coppola, from Epcot Center just after its star, Michael Jackson, had his first child molestation accusation, even though the offending party dropped the charges, because of the nature of the accusation. Captain EO was the best thing in Epcot Center at the time; with the exception of the countries, the main area of Epcot Center was an infamous bore!
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| Jan 27, 2007 @ 3:00 AM |
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Lovesoldier
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"Disney creates public imaginary worlds of childhood" (Dovestreasure).
Tonight, I saw Pan's Labyrinth and thought it was excellent.
I present this single film as an example of fairy tale the Disney Corporation would never do for at least two clear reasons: it's graphically violent by today's standards and it's entirely designed for adults. If this year were 1941, if Walt Disney was still alive, and if our social customs today replaced the social customs of 1941, Pan's Labyrinth might have been made by Disney.
I would say Pinocchio is a prime example of a Disney film based on a very, extremely violent fairy tale of the Grimms. Although Walt cleaned up the story--for instance, Ol' Wooden Boy Pinocchio DOESN'T kill Jiminey Cricket by stepping on him according to the Grimms book--the public still beheld the film as a very graphic interpretation of the violence in the original story according to the cinema during the earlier, and more legally and socially restrictive codes of what we now call the MPAA. Long ago, a panel could censor a movie from release entirely despite Free Speech according to its violence and sex depiction. So, Pinocchio was released, but notably according to the more conservative standards of 1941. At the time, Disney's animated Pinocchio was quite violent, although still not so violent as maybe some other films, but still Pinocchio does compare to the more violent films of its time.
Some of Disney's legacy did not survive unto this time: the important content. Let me ask you the pertinent question: what is a fairy tale without violent depiction? Isn't violence the essence of fairy tales? The Grimms knew this, and so do literary critics. A human culture cannot realize its own humanism without depicting violence, among other things. Conservative action only circumvents education. These stories were meant to be violent and for adults!
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