| Apr 14, 2008 @ 10:26 PM |
CPA Dead Beat DAD! How Do I PROVE His Ability to Pay in 72 hours or less
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eyesee
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[B]Help, Tonight I am playing detective.
What is the easiest fastest cheapest and MOST effective way to get the proof necessary for the Judge to take enforcement action. In less then 72 hours I have an enforcement hearing, he has already been ordered to pay and found in contempt for not paying. If I prove that my daughters father (a parnter in a CPA) has access to $5,100 they will tell him to pay or go to jail!
This is unpaid medical expenses from 5 years of being a deadbeat dad.
His tax return last few years have been between $100 & $125,000, and this year he has acknowledged it will be more.
He w2's himself about $30,000 and claims the rest is phantom income.
He states he can't see his daughter during the week because he works a minimum of 55 billable hours per week.
Child Support hearing officer in five hours of hearings found he makes over $75,000 and that though he gave up his voting rights the same time paternity was established his corporate earnings were income. That was with the Department of Revenue Attorney.
Now he is saying that was wrong, but this time I have no attorney or money for an Expert witness. Phantom Income, Pass through Income. He is his own expert witness, several CPA's have said he is full of himself. I don't have what it would cost to do a full blown battle.
I am Pro Se and will only have about 20 minutes if I am lucky. There are other issues like attorney's fees and visitation and contempt to deal with as well all in less than an hour.
He is an accomplished liar, and has effectively manipulated the court for several years. IT IS COMING TO AN END, but I still need Proof for the Judge to take the action he would like to take.
Help me and I believe you might help some other parents and their children as well.
Thanks in advance,
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 12:24 AM |
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Dovestreasure
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Check your messages eyesee. I know someone that can help.
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 1:13 AM |
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joshfritz
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You leave him alone and live your life.....
How much do you already get in alamony? How much did you get in the divorce?
And i bet you left him....
so now you want more money, and to get it, you are gonna end up getting him in Jail, taking your childs father away again.
I'm not stereotyping, I have a God-Given gift to read a face.
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 1:23 AM |
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joshfritz
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I'll even go one step further, I bet he has a drug/ drinking problem. That's why you left him..... but he had the same problem when you met him. So now, even though he hasn't changed, you don't love him anymore..
Ladies please, don't tell a man you love him how he is and then expect him to ever change. That just means you were lying to him every single time you told him that you loved him.
why do you think divorce is so common. and why 85% of the time it's the woman that leaves.
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 1:25 AM |
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joshfritz
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(if you think i am wrong, check her profile) She owns a boat and still trying to get more money..... I bet it was HIS BOAT
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 1:55 PM |
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Dovestreasure
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Joshfritz it sounds like you were stung badly through a divorce, however you really cannot judge another based on your unfortunate experience. Regardless the reason for Divorce and regardless of whose fault it may be the non custodial parent still has a responsibilty for his child or children. A dead beat dad is someone that does not pay their child support. A dead beat dad can also be defined as biological father that simply removes himself from their childs life. It appears eyesees ex is trying to avoid making his child support payments as well as trying to disguise the amount he makes. Each party involved has to complete a honest Financial statement with their earnings and the court determines the amount to be rewarded based on a percentage. Not everyone gets alimony. When I was divorced I was awarded rehabilitative alimony for one year which was 10% of his gross income per month. It also appears that in this case the dad was responsible for paying towards medical expensives for his child and has not.
My ex and I were suppose to split those costs 50/50 . He paid for perhaps a year and then failed to pay again. Raising a young child entirely on your own is not easy. There are many wonderful Dads out there that do not let the bitterness of divorce stop them from continuing to be a loving parent and continue to support their children emotionally and financially.
For you to judge eyesee and her plight because she has a boat is rather ignorant. After my divorce I worked hard and improved my lot in life. I became a homeowner, he did not. He due to his own doing constantly changed jobs, served time in jail , and was constantly fighting his own demons. Regardless he fathered a child and there were court ordered responsibilites he needed to abide by.
I wish eyesee well in court. Just for the record . I would feel the very same if a father was the custodial parent and his ex wife was not paying her child support.
Joshfritz can you back up your statistic that 85% of marriages end when the wife leaves. Intellectually I cannot help but question the legitimacy of your claim.
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 5:34 PM |
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eyesee
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FYI, This is NOT a man who has EVER acted as a responsible father to this child.
Please don't let your pain and negative experience blind you from seeing the failures of others. This is NOT a gender problem, men and woman do wrong when it comes to children and divorce. IT is the individual you must look at. In this instance you are so wrong it is comical!
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 5:45 PM |
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Hooks
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Eyesee
I can't really offer you advice as to what you should do in your situation, but I will say you should delete this blog! Like most people, I don't really know you. You may be a true saint, but with so many people having had terrible divorces where children were used to manipulate things, posting this blog on a dating site puts you in a negative light. You may want to try and find a single parents board, or chatroom. Good luck with your endeavors!
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 5:46 PM |
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eyesee
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Let ME Clarify FURTHER:
THiE MAN HAS ALREADY BEEN FOUND BY THE COURT TO BE IN CONTEMPT. THIS IS JUST AN EFFORT TO COLLECT A VERY SMALL PORTION OF WHAT IS OWED. This is the type of man that gives good men a bad name.
I too believe a parent, either parent must put thier child firtst and support they child regardless of which parent they reside with. My preference is cooperative coparenting and no child support on either side. However, it takes TWO cooperative adults to achieve such a relationship.
Let me clarify a little further per a court ordered evaluation:
This man is a sociopath who presented himself as a completely respectable member of the community, a widower, and a scout leader. IMy mistake was in trusting him and feeling compassion for the tragic DUI loss of his wife and kids. Oops! I met them when my daughter was five they were alive and well. He is like Scott Peterson, the man who murdered his wife out in Washington, except I am not dead. It has been proven that everything he said or did was a complete lie, twice DCF has recommended he be prosecuted for his actions, and he has a continuing history of lies and manipulations.
As others have pointed out, it is the courts responsiblity to review the facts and see where the truth lies in a difficult situation. The courts have repeatedly and unequivacally found this to be a case of lies, manipulations and worse.
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 6:02 PM |
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eyesee
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Ahhhh, my dear read more carefully. I love to sail, but I do not own a boat!
Even if I did, a parent is responsible to pay for there child per the judgement of the courts. Regardless of the individual parents situation the court is responsible for its ruling.
My quest is for information on how to PROVE his ability to pay when he is LYING and a CPA. What assets? What documents? What questions? How do I PROVE he has the funds to pay what he is ORDERED TO PAY?
He has already been found in CONTEMPT.
He has aleady been found to owe the money.
He has REPEATEDLY LIED UNDER OATH and BEEN CAUGHT!
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 6:02 PM |
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eyesee
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The money I am trying to collect is a drop in the bucket to what he owes me legally because I have focused my legal attention on protecting my daugher. This is money I have paid out of pocket for medical expenses he was responsible for 5 years. I am seeking it now because my own father is dying and I need to address some issues before he passes!
I made a very big mistake 12 years ago and trusted an apparently wonderful man who came up to a singles event and presented himself as a widower. The times we spent together were trips to the park and canoing with my son. My daughter was concieved out of compassion when he tragically told me in detail about the DUI accident in which he lost his wife and children.
I have paid dearly for my mistake in trust, but I still prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. My daughter pays dearly for her fathers behavior, she has been put through more than I would want any adult to have to experience.
Your pain from your experience showed through in your judgement of me. Please look beyond and see there are good woman out there, and there are good men out there.
Good luck,
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| Apr 15, 2008 @ 6:12 PM |
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Aaronnnnnn
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Perfect message HOOKS!!!!!!
Just let the dad get ahold of the info she printed on a DATING site. Looks like slander or lible to me!!!!!! I can't remember which is which haha!
I think she is stupid for blogging all that!
Can't pay the bills but owns a boat. Typical dumbass!!!
I think allot more people should think before flying off the handle! The world would be a better place!!!!!
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 1:24 AM |
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Dovestreasure
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For heavens sake eyesee was simply asking for advice. She should not even have to justify nor explain the actions of her daughters biological father to anyone. As far as slander is concerned she has not identified him to anyone. The forums are an excellent way to reach out to others who may have had similar problems in their life. It also helps to vent when going through difficult times. Many of us have experienced the frustration and stress of trying to get court orders upheld.
Aaron said
Can't pay the bills but owns a boat. Typical dumbass!!! I think allot more people should think before flying off the handle!
Aaron I think its better to carefully read to see what was actually stated before flying off the handle.
Eyesee does NOT own a boat. Even if she owned a fleet of boats or an entire cruise line . Her daughter is still entitled to support from her father as ordered by the court.
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 7:55 PM |
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MrPaul
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The LADYis just asking for help.  She is well within her rights to ask and if only 25% of what she says is true the man is scum and a disgrace.Mam I wish you the best of luck,hang in there..To the loosers  that claim to be men that are writing negative get a life and get over it.  Where are your children and how much time are you spending with them. Do you pay your child support or do you hide ?? OHHHHHHHHHHH just for the records I am a single father I was awarded full custody of my daughter 21 years ago and awarded child support to be paid by my ex wife, in 21years I have recived $80.00 but I didnt care I had thejoy of knowing and rasing my daughter. I also raised 33 foster children and have lived a wonderful life full of joy and love. The real point is he owes it he is hiding it and the courts will catch upto him and so will GOD. Best of luck mam enjoy life and enjoy your daughter  . God bless, Paul
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 8:31 PM |
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eyesee
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Thank you, he is what he is, and I made the mistakes I made.
You are right on more than one thing, but most importantly I consider myself rich from the joy I recieve each day raising my children.
I raised a son without ever asking his father for a dime and we did fine. He is now a man any man could respect. At 21 and in college he is the one who is working to help pay for the braces her father refuses. Which is why I am trying to collect what is owed her.
Foster children are a wonderful joy. I had a non relative adjudicated foster for two years (for those of you who are skepital that means I did not recieve a dime of support for the care I gave her). She is now adopted into our extended famliy and growing up a happy well adjusted girl. We all learned so much from having her in our family about accepting, loving, giving and letting go.
That is another goal if the money is paid in a timely manner, the girls will be attending a week long summer camp together.
It is was a simple question, seeking a simple answer. A question that I thought others may have experienced, and also others may be experiencing. Everyone looses, especially the child when family life is lived in the courts.
I strongly recommend utilzing a trained parenting coordinator to resolve issues in the child's best interest. If both parents can put their child first, and cooperate coparenting can be a positive experience. If nothing else, it can save you the cost of money and aggravation associated with the court system.
Thank you for Paul for your blessing, your wisdom and the kindness of your words,
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 8:49 PM |
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joshfritz
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Your words suggest you own a boat, your pictures show that you ride horses,
And you still havn't clearly said 1 thing he did wrong, and what does contempt of court have to do with whether he should give you money.
I feel that if YOU made the decision to leave, and YOU made the decision to take the child, then YOU need to come up with your OWN money,
He didn't leave you,
So you leave, take the child, then expect HIM to pay for you leaving?
Be a real woman and be responcable for your own life and actions instead of making him pay for your decisions.
From the looks of your pictures you live a privilaged life , so you don't need a penny from him to live a good life, only if you are being greedy for more. If you had insurance on your child, you wouldn't have big medical bills if that's what you mean.
Maybe he would come around to be with the child if he wasn't worried about you trying to destroy his financial life.
How much did the court already order in child support and alamony?
You should apreciate whet you have and thank god for that. If you make $50K a year, do you realise most americains make under 20?
[Edited on 4/16/2008 8:55 PM]
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 9:21 PM |
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MrPaul
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Josh do you have any children?? or are you busy hanging out at the bars ??? Contempt of court means he has already refused to obey a court order once and should be put in jail. Not all Ladies are bad just as not all men are bad............................... but I will say from what I have seen with my own eyes its usually the man that is messing up and the Lady will do her best to make it work ( not including the wife's that cheat) I have worked with abused children and abused women for 20 ears and 85$% of the time its the man messing up and then hiding or running instead of stepping up to the plate to make amends or take reasonability for his actions. Bottom line is it took two people to make the children and both parents have the responsibility to help raise and pay the bills that come with having children. oh and it is the courts that decide who get custody of the children the mother didn't just decide to take the child the courts gave custody to whom they thought would take care of the child bests and probably ordered the deadbeat dad in this case top provide insurance on the child, which as it appears he is not doing. stop judging others till you have been there your self..and I have.God bless Paul
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 10:34 PM |
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joshfritz
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I have 2 children, one is not my birth child, I am on child support, and i pay proudly, because it was MY decision to leave. so I have to face my own decisions. I don't drink but once or twice a year, you say not to judge then do the same, at least I am consistant. =)
I am not making a statement about ALL women. I am saying that if she has the money to afford boating and riding horses, and she left him.. (she still didn't say anything but that he lied) she should live with her decision.
Let's look at this the other way. She wants money because she is "used" to getting it from him. Does that mean he should still get what he used to get from her? I think not.
you say %85 percent of the people you deal with was the mans fault, but you WORK at a place that deal mostly with abused women and children,
so what you see doesn't represent the true numbers.
Alot of the time a woman falls in love, looks over the mans flaws because she EXPECTS to change him, then when she can't she leaves him, takes his kids, and takes his money. I am speaking from the experianecs of friends and myself. , me and my ex simply were too differant, she pretended to be sencitive for years, then told me she never liked being toutched after 5 YEARS.
You have to make sure you love the person exactly the way they are, and if you can't then it is your own fault for getting together with them to begin with, why should he pay for her not loving him anymore?
If you decide to leave a man that didn't beat you and didn't cheat, you should not get a penny, if you want him to pay for the childs expences then leave the child with him. Instead alot of women leave the man, take the child, move 5 hours away, then demand money and call him a deatbeat when he works hard to get the money and no longer has time to see them.
Child support needs to be done away with in %90 of the situations out there, it should only apply if abuse can be proven, or if the man is the one that left..
That's like quiting a job and expecting to still keep getting paid. 
[Edited on 4/16/2008 10:38 PM]
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 10:37 PM |
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joshfritz
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It may have took 2 to make the child, but she decided to leave,
I bet she told him she loved him, and would never leave. I'm sure if she said "I only love you for now" "I might leave someday" He would not have had a child with her.
Now if he beat her or abused her child, and she just doesn't want to say on this site... then yes, she should get SOME alamony and child support, because then HE decided he didn't love her by hitting her.
but if she left because he didn't become what she wanted, then she needs to live with her decision and leave him alone.
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| Apr 16, 2008 @ 10:37 PM |
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eyesee
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Keep talking Josh, your helping save some woman some time!
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