| Nov 24, 2006 @ 1:08 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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These techniques could probably go for women too..one never knows. 
Here's how to use these haggling strategies for yourself:
1) Don't show too much interest.
A woman doesn't want to feel like you just fell in love at first sight. She wants to know you're interested, and you'll have the most success when you can hold back on letting her know how much you are interested in her.
This is where most guys screw it up with beautiful women. They show too much interest and lose their value because they're no challenge at all. If she thinks you want her too much, you're going to lose your leverage.
2) You have to be willing to walk away.
You need to be able to walk away from ANY woman. This includes the one you're dating or even married to. A person values what they have much more if they know they could lose it at any time. They also realize that a person with the ability to leave is someone worth holding on to.
3) Let HER lower her price first.
If you pay her asking price (through her level of maintenance that she demonstrates with her behavior) you'll be locked into a situation where you have no power. She'll own you because you are willing to pay whatever she asks, and this is just like desperation. When someone agrees too readily to your price, you are always left wondering "Would they have paid more?"
Get her to lower her price (maintenance level) before you even think about taking ownership of a losing situation.
4) Let them know you can get the same value elsewhere.
Never be afraid to let a woman think you've got other "products" you're interested in. This will change her perception of your value as a buyer, as well as her perception of her own value when she realizes that you have options.
If she thinks that you think you're in a scarcity situation, she knows she has the supply, and all you have is demand. But if there is competition - good, healthy competition - you will stand a much better chance of keeping some level of posture and dignity.
5) Never act as if you're the one getting the "deal."
You always act like the other person is the one getting the great deal in the transaction. If you are too happy to be standing in her shadow, you're obviously not an Alpha to her, and she'll pick up on this and get rid of you. You have to be completely confident that you'll get what YOU want from this deal.
Just something i found interesting.  Have you ever tried these strategies yourself?
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 1:11 PM |
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Danceanddream
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Great post! The scary thing is..... some of it is so true!
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 1:13 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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I know.. 
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 1:35 PM |
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sciurusniger
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Did you pull this out of some '50s dating advice book, Tink? Personally, I think it's awfully lame.
1) Don't show too much interest. Certainly no one wants to become involved with a stalker but the "loves me? loves me not?" game is highly overrated. It feeds on the other person's insecurities and is too-often simply an exercise in sadistic cruelty.
2) You have to be willing to walk away. Frankly, you should know your Self well enough to avoid becoming involved with anyone unsuitable. And should they later exhibit behaviors that cross your personal moral, ethical, or other boundaries, it's just common sense to remove your Self from the situation. It's not a game to be self-assured; however, neither should it be a sword hanging over the head of one's partner.
3) Let HER lower her price first. WTF? See #2.
4) Let them know you can get the same value elsewhere. This, too, smacks of crazy-making. If you have to play this kind of game to "get" someone, are they really worth having at all?
5) Never act as if you're the one getting the "deal." An openly honest relationship is a "deal" for both parties. Individual strengths help balance individual weaknesses, each is an "Alpha" in their own way, and those ways are complementary not hierarchical.
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 1:37 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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Not out of a dating book..just something i read..didn`t say I agreed with it.
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 4:26 PM |
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sciurusniger
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No, I didn't mean to imply you agreed with it, but honestly, I don't think I would have taken the time to post it here.
Kinda scary stuff, ya know?! 
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 4:45 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I don't agree with 4 and 5.
I like to be the Alpha in a relationship...which is probably why I'm still alone.
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 4:50 PM |
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duwant1
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Tink,
Great job! 
Guys, this stuff really works!!!
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 4:58 PM |
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MotownManiax
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 Tinks, what the heck are ya doing?....I think there's too many "rules" of dating behavior as it is? 
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 5:05 PM |
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sissycat411
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If a relationship takes all that "game playing", why on earth would anyone want to be in such a relationship? Just be honest, who you are and don't play games.
I guess if I see someone post a new thread ref something they read...it indicates they somehow support what they took the time to post. But I have to agree with sciurusnger....this is plumb childish.......so immature... 
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 5:23 PM |
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Empath
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There is enough of a 'power struggle' in relationships without added games to keep men or women guessing. Being open to each other's needs is very important, and these things just cut that off before partners even have a chance to develop the 'intuition' needed to sense those needs. They don't aid communication either, rather they hinder it.
If I discovered a man doing this to me, I would be outta there so fast it'd make his head spin!! (I'd hope he'd have the sense and self confidence to do the same.)
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 5:53 PM |
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Red69Sun
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I'm with Empath, Sciurusniger, and Mo and on this one........way too many rules and games here........Haggling.....Uck I'd be out-of-there........and would surly walk-away from that kind of game-player.
Guys......that is NOT the way to Handle a Woman......nope..........or at least one that's worth anything!
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 5:55 PM |
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duwant1
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Women start to resist playing dating games, when they join the 30+ club. They vehemently dislike games, when they hit the 40+ ranks.
Mo,
On the contrary, this will help guys that could use assistance in this area.
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 6:13 PM |
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Red69Sun
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All right ..........be nice there DU...........Why the 30-40+ "women" no longer like those kind of games...........is because we have seen them and have all those tee-shirts! And Homey doesn't want to play no more..........we have grown out of that.....matured.....and choose not to play by those rules any longer....they don't work and you only get crappy guys!
If some guy is looking for an insecure female......not a woman.....basically booty-call and not a potential life partner, these are dandy rules for the "Bad Boys Club".....how to bait and tantilize her........catch her attention and make her want for more........but in a majourly insecure way......so, she is never sure about you and where she stands and encourages her to be neurotic and psycho.......these are some great ideas on how to haggle and you get what you ask for! 
Buyer Beware! This is a double-edged sword...and if you choose to play these games.........just see the quality of individual you come up with!
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 6:25 PM |
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sciurusniger
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Now that I think about this more, one animal training technique involves a system of random rewards. Meaning, the animal is rewarded inconsistently for doing the right thing. This apparently causes them to perform the right behavior more quickly and more often since it's never quite sure when the goodie will follow.
Guess this would work, then, if all you want is a human pet.
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 6:32 PM |
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MotownManiax
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I think you may have hit it, sciur! I'm certainly trainable with the right women and, ahem, proper "techniques".
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 6:34 PM |
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sciurusniger
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You didn't tell me you were into whips and chains and high-wire acts, Mo?
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 6:37 PM |
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MotownManiax
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 Oh, nothing violent....just call me Mo of the Jungle.
That's an animal trainer, btw.
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 6:46 PM |
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duwant1
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Women don’t stop playing dating games because of maturity, it’s because they never dreamed they would still be single and looking at 30+ years old and counting.
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| Nov 24, 2006 @ 6:46 PM |
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Ron9
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Anything that smacks of any kind of a “game” normally causes me to lose interest fast. All the so called experts that say things like “guys like the chase” or try to get you to “act” like something .......... like anything that is not really YOU - they can keep all that ......... umm expert advice.
I do think some of the self improvement information is worthwhile and - I for one - have been pleased to hear some of it again. I just listened to six hours of “How to win friends and influence people” - Dale Carnegie - talking about being interested (sincerely interested) in what the other person wants ...........
I did a bit of digging and was surprised to find out Dale Carnegie was a local guy - and is buried not five miles from where I live.
There is also some excellent - self esteem type programs that would actually be almost opposite to the above type of teachings.
I honestly feel - if the two right people come together there is very little need for any kind of so called “steps to take” or “techniques” needed/wanted on either side - they both would know better - they both would feel fortunate (and would be).
[Edited on 11/24/2006 6:52 PM]
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