| Dec 30, 2006 @ 12:39 AM |
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Dukums

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Sorry to all the ladies that thought they had found Mr right! LOL
I hate both! But after browsing many ads in the US and Canada I have yet to find a lady that values "traditional values". Maybe they are so traditional (era 1950) that you don't even know they used to be a tradition. What has happened to the partnership of the man going and making a living while his "partner" took care of the home life? I am a single dad of 2 teens. I work 50 - 60 hours a week, raise kids, cook and clean already. Why do I need anybody if they are not going to help? I don't need more money. All I see is ads about how you don't want to take care of another kid(the man being the other kid), want to travel, ride 4 wheelers, and expect to be wined and dined. Like I have time? Oh well anyways...now maybe you understand why some of us even consider getting a foreign bride. They still understand how to appeal to a man.
Flame away.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 12:55 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9


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Hey, I'm with you, wish I could get a woman, or a man, to come and cook and clean for me. I hate doing that shit. I leave it and it doesn't get done. So a partner that likes to clean is a great match for me, since it's not gonna happen if it's left up to me.
In an ideal situation both partners should share the housework load. This ISN'T the 1950s. Times change. People change. If I need to choose between having a great, fulfilling job that makes me money, and cleaning up someone else's shit...sorry, but I'll be at my job.
I have been raised to work outside the home. I respect women that work inside the home, because I would never under any circumstances do that kind of thing, but my parents raised me to want to reach for anything I want in my life,and what I want is to have a partner that will do that stuff for me.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 1:00 AM |
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Dukums

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I think there are nigerian men that will do that stuff. LOL
And who ever said that we were not free to choose what type of lifestyle we live? I choose to stay with something traditional. If it is not going to happen, then I will continue to take care of myself. I already live that way. Why change if the change is not for the better? Since I do not need the second income, why choose a partner that wants to continue to work outside the home?
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 8:38 AM |
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DipityDoo

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Posts: 6 Sorry to all the ladies that thought they had found Mr right! LOL
I hate both! But after browsing many ads in the US and Canada I have yet to find a lady that values "traditional values". Maybe they are so traditional (era 1950) that you don't even know they used to be a tradition. What has happened to the partnership of the man going and making a living while his "partner" took care of the home life? I am a single dad of 2 teens. I work 50 - 60 hours a week, raise kids, cook and clean already. Why do I need anybody if they are not going to help? I don't need more money. All I see is ads about how you don't want to take care of another kid(the man being the other kid), want to travel, ride 4 wheelers, and expect to be wined and dined. Like I have time? Oh well anyways...now maybe you understand why some of us even consider getting a foreign bride. They still understand how to appeal to a man.
Flame away.
Why do you need anybody if they are not going to help? I can understand that you don't. But again, why would these women need you? They have their income, and don't need you for support. Having stayed home and raised kids AND having had a career, I can tell you, without a doubt, which is easier and more fulfilling for my temperment. It's working outside of a home. I would also guess that the women you have been looking at have done the kid things, and want their own freedom and to live their lives for themselves now.
I'm not sure why you think that because you are the man you should go out and earn the income and the female should stay home. Yes, that is too 1950's to me. I enjoy having a brain and the demands placed on it in my job; I do not enjoy staying home and doing laundry anymore than you evidently do. Why therefore, if I were to be in a relationship with you, should I sacrifice my independence and freedom and stay home while you contiue to work? Because don't forget, if a relationship doesn't work out....what am I to do then? I must support myself again. Can I put housekeeping for the past x many years on my resume???? I work in a technical field.l I'd quickly be outdated. And I seriously doubt, in this age of squeezing the middle class...and rising college costs for our kids (you have teenagers, I have teenagers)...that a second income would not truly be needed. If for nothing else...it helps save for retirement.
Why not just hire a maid service....find some time to cook together, on weekends, etc.? Freeze things?
Your last sentence...that a foreign bride will still understand how to appeal to a man. Guess that sums it up right there. They are looking for a secure future. If I were looking for a relationship, I'd be looking for a true mental and emotional partnership. Economics are out of it for me, at this point. It's been a struggle for me to get here, too...and I'm not going back.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 9:54 AM |
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mogrl1000

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hire a housekeeper,give her a little something on the side and maybe she`ll give you a little something on the side...just a thought and perfect solution.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 9:58 AM |
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Dukums

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You know... I thought about posting more but I think not. You ladies are absolutely free to pursue the lifestyle that you want. However you are also absolutely making my point for me without having to say a word.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:00 AM |
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horselady9

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I was definitely raised to live that 'home body' lifestyle - marry well, be the consumate hostess, bear and raise the requiste heir(s), care for and be cared for by one husband. Guess what? It didn't happen. I could never have children, which meant the one driving motivation in my family background was DOA. I was the first woman in my family to have a career, and thank goodness I was bright enough and motivated enough to have had one, for over 40 years now.
That said - I am certainly a home-body at heart - at least relative to being a social butterfly who knows every nightclub and bar in a 50 mile radius. I have built up a nice art collection. I do love to cook WELL (that was a social grace that I enjoyed acquiring, especially since I had some excellent teachers). But don't put on the white gloves to check my ability with a dust cloth. I also muck a mean stall, love my power tools (not the little recreational ones, thank you), and (horrors!) love to get my hands dirty in the garden. And make a comfortable income that supports my horses, my orchids, and pays a hefty mortgage.
Why in the name of ??? would I want to suddenly take a zillion steps back and resume the 50s role to which I was raised? No one has supported me since I left home in the mid 60s, and I know darned well no one is going to start now, even if I were to want that! Heck, when I was married, briefly, at 50, I still paid all the bills, did all the cooking, cleaning, outside chores, and earned the income. Learned that lesson very well! 
[Edited on 12/30/2006 10:08 AM]
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:02 AM |
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luvmycats

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To all the ladies that have so far responded...
As for you Dukums, since we made your point and you have also found this to be true, why are you here on a mainly US dating site? Why aren't you on a forign one looking for your bride?
~scratching head~
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:02 AM |
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jamie95622

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nice to see that good old fashioned values still exist here in america,,,,,bare foot and pregnant ,,,,,,cooking cleaning ,,,,,,,,,hell woman ! do your duty and wait on me hand and foot! too funny,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,welcome to the 21'st century where equality has dared to rear it's ugly head and woman can now live a life where there main duty is not waiting on your fat ass!
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:10 AM |
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Dukums

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I thought making advances of a side nature was considered sexual harrassment? I thought that was against the rules.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:12 AM |
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Loreli

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What has happened to the partnership of the man going and making a living while his "partner" took care of the home life? Inflation, COL, women wanting to work outside the home, divorce. There are still partnerships like that you described. IMO they are the exception rather than the norm.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:14 AM |
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Dukums

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Gee Jamie....glad you noticed my fat ass.... Why don't you quit trying to be such a suck up and you won't see as many asses.
Equality and roles we play in life are not synonomous. They are choices.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:15 AM |
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definitelydi

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Two words: Women's Lib.
It kinda screwed it up for those who'd have liked to sit on their asses at home and eat bon bons and watch soap operas while their slave (oops...I mean husbands) work. Don't think for a second that she didn't know every housekeeping/cooking short cut in the book.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:16 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower

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Good luck in your search dear Dukums, but as for your point being made for you, you're entirely correct. Most of us who are on here are divorced and frankly, most of us have had to do exactly what you're doing - raise a family, build a career and maintain a home single-handed, and actually I think quite a few of us have done that quite successfully. I can only speak for myself of course, and you and I would never be a good match for many more reasons than this, but I'm not looking for someone to cook and clean for me, nor to support me - I do those quite well, thanks. I'm looking for someone who wants me to be all I can be (too late to join the army though) and who finds in me that serendipitous something that allows him to do the same. That's probably why I've been single since my 40+ year old son was a preschooler, but as I've been known to say before, I'm the only person I HAVE to live with. Just my two whatevers (knuts, cents or what have you).
It kinda screwed it up for those who'd have liked to sit on their asses at home and eat bon bons and watch soap operas while their slave (oops...I mean husbands) work. Don't think for a second that she didn't know every housekeeping/cooking short cut in the book. Di - that's too funny! That was my brother's ex-wife to the tee. When his $250K annual income got cut back, her comment was that he'd better start looking for a second job. She was a fabulous homemaker, but her kids left home as soon as they could escape her, and when they left, so did my brother. It's funny, I'd forgotten that he felt the same way as Dukums when he married her...guess he had a change of heart. His second wife's a successful professional in her own right.
[Edited on 12/30/2006 10:24 AM]
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:17 AM |
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jamie95622

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wasn't sucking up,,,just giving an honest opinion,,,if i wanted to be waited on,,,i would get a butler,,,,i believe woman are independant people with there own wants and needs,,,not servant girls to cater to my every whim
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:39 AM |
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Blondino

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It takes all sorts to make a world ... sure there are some ladies happy to be housewives ... so they have the right to choose to do so ...
I could not stay home all day every day though .. but hope you meet one and then you can both be happy
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 10:39 AM |
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countrycanuck

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Whats wrong with cooking & cleaning...I do it on a daily basis ans was a single parent doing it. Now that my daughters gone is gone its much easier...And to be honest I dont think I would want another lady cleaning here...I like how my place is kept...Well unless they wanna jump in ...lol....
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 11:31 AM |
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candylily

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I agree with LGQ and Dukums. I would love to have a wife who would cook and clean for me. I hate that stuff.
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 11:38 AM |
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violette1967

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there are still a few women who would like nothing more than to be your servant at home, have no say as to where the money goes to, have the man make all the desicions, bear and look after the offspring.....right?
I mean this sounds like a deal to you too....doesn't it?
In your defense...
while women want nothing more than to be emacipated, have equal rights....there are still a few who will wonder why you do not hold open the door for them, buy them nice gifts, take care of them.....they want the best of both worlds.....
Then again...some things just aren't black or white...there is always a gray area. And women are smart enough to want both...equal rights and to be taken care of....
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| Dec 30, 2006 @ 12:05 PM |
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The_love_Giant

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I hate to brake it to most but i can honestly say that I really do like to cook and clean. I want to work as a cook and I love to see people happy with what I make. And you do check my profile you will find that yes I am young but I think like im much much older.
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