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Jan 30, 2007 @ 3:17 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Pain and experience are the causes of conditional love. I.E. The ability to trust..

It's easy to fall in love when you're young and naive.

Trust must be earned by being selfless for the sake of the relationship.
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Jan 30, 2007 @ 3:31 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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If there ever was unconditional love amongst the living, it is gone now.
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Jan 30, 2007 @ 3:42 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Unconditional love does exist, however, it is not mutually exclusive, save a mothers love, and flourishes through understanding, acceptance and commitment.
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Jan 30, 2007 @ 9:02 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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lore as I read your post I see several conditions. they must be your children and only open heart to someone you deem right

In your words, DUH!
Why would I open it just to have someone in bed next to me at night. Maybe you do-I don't.

We all have to have a few "expectations". I don't consider them "conditions." I love my children. They are part of me.
A man in my life wrongfully convicted in a crime, I would wait for.
But if he raped, stole, murdered...He got more than sentencing papers..he'd get a goodbye from me, to his face

If you'd like to label them condtions, you feel free.
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Jan 30, 2007 @ 9:15 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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hey Loreli....wasn't that label you branded me dont touch property of.....
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Jan 30, 2007 @ 9:45 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Naw, you poop.
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Jan 30, 2007 @ 9:47 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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i honestly can't answer tht question
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Jan 30, 2007 @ 10:58 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Unconditional love is NOT extinct! It is alive and well within the two people that truly want it.

I have loved well, totally, and unconditionally, and it was returned unto me. It is a very painful love to lose, but I would not have missed it for all the world. It is a "forever love" that you hold and cherish. How did I lose it? He died unexpectedly.

So, if you've not experienced unconditional love of another human being, not someone that you are related to, you've yet to really know love on its grandest scale. The depth of such emotion is indescribable.
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Jan 31, 2007 @ 7:58 AM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Jan 31, 2007 @ 2:53 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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The concept of 'unconditional love' is great!! But it's a romantic fantasy. Human beings aren't capable of such a phenomenon. If your lover pushes you over a cliff, your love for them will naturally change.

We must keep in mind 'unconditional' doesn't mean 'wonderful'. It means unconditional.. It means it could never change based on any possible conditions or circumstances. And there just isn't anything in existence like that, as previously demonstrated.


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Jan 31, 2007 @ 3:02 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Anytime there are two people involved equal love at any point in time almost never is equal. That is we share give and take and as we do it cycles thru our emotions at a different rate. Unconditional is for those who have absolute trust in one another. Both need each other to fulfill themselves to feel complete. Some will say unconditional love does not exist, it does as long as neither makes it conditional on something unrealistic and do nothing to kill their love.

Unconditional love may not be happy or it may depending on the people involved.
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Jan 31, 2007 @ 3:14 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Some will say unconditional love does not exist, it does as long as neither makes it conditional on something unrealistic and do nothing to kill their love.

Glad you listed the conditions.


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Jan 31, 2007 @ 3:22 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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I think only dogs love unconditionally.
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Jan 31, 2007 @ 3:34 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Do tell, what happens in that "unconditional" love situation when one or the other abuses your child, or has an affair, or suddenly decides to become an unproductive member of society and instead wants to stay at home being nothing but a couch potato, or runs away with the circus, or any number of other things that could arise? Would you still love that person "unconditionally." I don't think it is necessarily "conditions" that we put on our love for another, but instead something more like tolerance of what we find acceptable or unacceptable, and what we can live with, or without.
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Jan 31, 2007 @ 3:34 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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oops!! Posted a duplicate somehow and now editing.....
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Jan 31, 2007 @ 3:40 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Unconditional love: loving without limitations, conditions, or reservations.

Unconditional love is a myth. That is because humans are naturally self-biased and the human heart is so deceitful that one can fool himself into thinking that he is loving unconditionally, when in fact he has all kinds of conditions.

We were born knowing unconditional love. It is a gift, a birthright given to us from the very beginning. It’s the conditioning once our souls take on the human form that limits our belief in unconditional love. It’s erased and replaced by conditioned thoughts of the world. We learn our actions cause reactions. We learn that we are either good or bad. We learn What is acceptable and what is not. That becomes our point of reference, removing us far away from what we were born with.

After time and experiences it almost seems hopeless to return. Finding your true unconditional love means finding the true you. It is absolutely impossible to unconditionally love yourself if you harbor bitterness, anger, guilt or any other feelings that are not love. To relieve from payment of the past is the step that will bring you to unconditional love.

The world owes you nothing. You were born deserving it, so was everyone else. Learning how to love yourself unconditionally., creating your dream love by being clear on what you are looking for and be sure that you are able to provide that for yourself before expecting someone to provide it for you, that’s where you will find unconditional love.
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Jan 31, 2007 @ 3:41 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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I think someone needs a hug.

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Jul 15, 2007 @ 12:54 AM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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What does staying together have to do with "unconditional love" ?? If a spouse stays in marriage "in health" but leaves "in sickness" - it's merely lack of integrity and character ( not to mention "breach of contract" ) , there was hardly ANY love in the first place. And if one stays with abusive partner - it's hardly any "love" either, but rather neurotic condition/lack of self-respect and , in most cases, plain fear .
As for our feelings towards pets - a friend of mine , passionate dog lover, shot his "unconditionally beloved pet" after the dog lost patience and bit his master's child who acted cruelly towards the animal.
And even without extremes - who would tolerate a pet which is misbehaving, damaging his master's property , embarrassing him in front of family/neighbors, etc? Such pet is most likely going to end up on the street or in some animal shelter. So much for "unconditional love"
And when it comes to children - surely , everyone loves their children ...on condition that they work hard on changing themselves under parents' supervision into people their parents will be proud of . Small children are protected by law from being evicted from their parents' house , but they get punished if they misbehave . And when they grow up and disgrace their parents in some way - they do get kicked out and disinherited , no matter how "unconditionally" their parents claimed to love them.

[Edited on 7/15/2007 1:01 AM]
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Jul 15, 2007 @ 1:33 AM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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Funny, I was just having this conversation with my daughter the other day. Unconditional love does not mean I will help her move bodies. It means I will perhaps go so far as to not pick up the phone and tell the police I know where she is, but if asked I will not lie for her. If she is arrested for something she did, I will mortgage my house to try to get money for a decent lawyer for her, and perhaps plead with the court for as light a sentence as I can get for her, within the limits of reason. But I won't shelter her from the consequences of her actions. And I can love people and not want to share a bed with them. I can love someone and not be what they want.

If unconditional love means I would change anything and everything about myself to be what someone else wants, well... I don't think I can do that and I don't expect that from anyone. If it means I would forgive them, no matter what they did to whom (including hurting me), again, sorry. As above, if I loved someone, I might look past what they did, but that's a long way from forgiveness and acceptance.

I guess "unconditional love" just isn't in me.
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Jul 15, 2007 @ 9:41 AM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    

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My father's brother is a well known scientist and philanthropist. His wife developed MS shortly after their three children were born and soon became disabled and permanently bed ridden a few years later.

He took care of her for over 50 years while he perused his career and raised the children. He kept her in their home and gave her every possible comfort and medical attention that money could buy until her death about 5 years ago. Through the most horrible medical emergencies you can imagine, including amputations of her limbs and a complete loss of her cognitive brain functions, in spite of his constant need to travel, he was there by her side for every single moment of crisis.

At the same time he was able to develop scientific breakthroughs in medicine that have saved untold numbers of lives. And he also gives most of the fortune he has recognized to charitable causes to help save untold more.

This is unconditional love.

What an incredible man.
I understand you can't give out his name...but thanks for sharing that.
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