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Dec 5, 2007 @ 5:42 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
katydid438


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Unconditional or not, I could only be involved with a man who loves his children and is there for them, even if it is long distance. Speaks to true character I believe
Haven't seen the pics Katt, but I feel that you are a loving mother


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Dec 5, 2007 @ 6:47 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
LipGlossQueen9


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anyway I can opt out of the next life???

can't opt out, I believe, but you can stop yourself from being reborn \

And Katt...you are a fine example of a loving mother, you know that
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:40 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
Empath


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can't opt out, I believe, but you can stop yourself from being reborn

the difference??
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:42 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
ISSUESWOPTIONS


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big difference. it was safest being a guardian...let all you thrill seekers go after the glory of tangible life...i am opting out...
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:44 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
Angel178


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are you leaving again?
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:45 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
ISSUESWOPTIONS


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if they let me opt out? hells yeah!!!!



my time is done....
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:52 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
Angel178


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No, Sadian....tying you to a chair....you are going to stay in that chair until you stop crying and say that you love all of us!!!
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:54 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
Heaveninawildflower


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Going back to the OP:

I may be a hopeless romantic but people stick by people who are in jail for murder, the drama queens, the sick, the old, and even people who are in the psych ward. If you truly love them why is there a limit.

How unconditional can your love be??

That's why I said I don't believe in unconditional love..the OP is specifically asking if you'd 'stand by your man.' I can deal with a lot, but I know my limits, and taking my 6 year old son by his ankles and swinging him into a wall is waaaaay beyond those limits. If I could love unconditionally, I'd have had to jeopardize my son's safety, so I have to say I have at least one condition. What's more, I think anyone who actually DOES love unconditionally, and tolerates abuse of themselves and/or their children, is someone I'd feel needs counselling pretty badly.
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:57 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
katydid438


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Heaven
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 8:58 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
newlife2006


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Until recently I used to be with capitalview on this issue : " unconditional love is like oral sex - i.e. something which everyone doesn't mind recieving but which no way can get anyone satisfied giving "
And then it happened . .. recently I heard a guy talking about his fiancee ( the girl has incurable health condition ) : "I'd better be suffering together with her than live carefree life with someone else" . Now I'll never say that unconditional love doesn't exist , it does - it's just not everyone is capable of it.
I agree with LGQ - those whose brains got stuck in their early teens ( that's when peers' opinion takes place of personality ) are not capable of ANY kind of love, they only need partner to boost their ego. Ability ( and need ) for love ( to GIVE love, that
is, since the need to be loved is something we all are born with ) comes only with emotional maturity. That's when people finally get their priorities straight : relationship with life partner gets value above all the rest of person's social connections.
This young man obviously has no concern for pleasing anyone with his choice of partner , his only objective is his ( and her ) happiness .Now, that's maturity in it's best
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 9:06 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
Empath


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..the OP is specifically asking if you'd 'stand by your man.' I can deal with a lot, but I know my limits, and taking my 6 year old son by his ankles and swinging him into a wall is waaaaay beyond those limits. If I could love unconditionally, I'd have had to jeopardize my son's safety,

I realized a bit belatedly the OP's original question, and clarified my stance on romantic love.

As far as I'm concerned, unconditional love is a spiritual matter, and does not require one putting themself or any other in physical, emotional, or mental danger.

I'm sorry, Heaven, if my words were so unclear that you believed I meant otherwise.
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 9:11 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
LipGlossQueen9


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the difference??

you can't really "opt out" but by living a certain type of life you can stop the cycle, i suppose is what i meant.
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 9:14 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
katydid438


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Dec 5, 2007 @ 9:18 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
Heaveninawildflower


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yes, I do still love the person who makes my skin crawl. I would still "do" for them if they needed something I could give. I suppose it's because I realize that there are ALWAYS reasons for why someone does things. Those reasons may not be right, or good ones, but it is all that person has or knows. Even they deserve to be loved.

Sorry Em, this is the part that I was reacting to, and I should have quoted it in my post to begin with...it didn't seem to be talking about spiritual love. But enough, it's history!

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Dec 5, 2007 @ 9:49 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
DiamondRain


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I don’t know about unconditional love...

But I can tell you for sure that unconditional lust isn‘t extinct!
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 10:10 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
CreamPie907


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Amen, brother...
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 11:30 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
dt3d2001


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Most “really good hearted people” tend to offer there partner “unconditional love and trust” going into a new relationship, until there partners willful actions prove them no longer worthy of such a gift. Giving a new partner “unconditional love and trust” has nothing to do with a person being gullible, its just a person knowledge that the “give and take of true love and trust” is the essential base for a long and happy relationship,, they have hopes and dreams that “true love” still exists for them, and that everyone deserves to be given “unconditional love and trust” until there actions have shown it to be a one sided deal. Don’t get me wrong,, there are a lot of really good hearted people out there that wish, and want to, offer each new partner “unconditional love and trust” but have been so viciously treated and deeply scarred by others, that trust is a risk they just cant afford anymore.

Giving “unconditional love and trust” to someone is there “trial by fire” the outcome “worthy or not” is a matter of free choice, there personal honor, moral values, and always completely within there control. When someone is given “unconditional love and trust” there not being watched, questioned, suspected, and if something feels a little odd,, all they have to say is “no honey,, you know I love only you,,, trust me!” and you accept that no matter how wrong it feels,,, it must be “all in you head!”

With the kind of freedom that comes with being unconditionally loved and trusted, they are free to do anything they want, with little or no risk of getting caught at it, there choices are "a matter of free choice".. That situation will make or break a person and show who they really are. "Its a trial by fire, that most fall short of passing" Most people see those who give “unconditional love and trust” as being weak, there deceptions come without guilt because they have no respect for weak people. To them, the grass always greener on the other side, you wont know about it, they wont get caught so why not,, it's kind of a game to them, it's exciting!

A rare few will see your “unconditional love and trust” as a true gift given them,, they ignore the color of the grass around them, no matter how green and tempting it may look to others,, and they will hold your heart as a priceless treasure. There faithfulness has nothing to do with the fear of getting caught or any repercussions if they did something wrong,, there “free choice” is to see the true value of “unconditional love and trust” freely given them, and to want to give the same in return, because its also what they want,, “peace of heart” These people feel that keeping the promises they make is foremost a matter of personal honor, they don’t make promises they cant keep,, to break there word to another is to become “a weak, self-serving, heartless, coward” of a person in there own eyes,, even if “no one will ever know” they will, and that’s enough!

"Is Unconditional Love Extinct?" Not at all!!,, But after you weed through all of those who think heartbreak is really a game to play,, then rule out all of those who have given it and payed for it so much that they have nothing left inside, that they can afford to risk, your left with a "rare few" who can and will give love unconditionally.

It’s damn sad when others will “so freely” strip away a good persons hopes and dreams for true love, dooming an innocent heart to a lifetime of mistrust, loneliness, and sorrow, because serving there own wants meant so much more, then the innocent person they left shattered and broken down for trusting them in the first place. No laws are ever broken, there not held accountable for destroying the dreams of others “in any way” it’s actually called a “victimless crime!” I have to believe in a hereafter, if only because “there must be a price to pay, for feeding upon the innocent faith of others,, and I bet that price is a high one!!
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Dec 5, 2007 @ 11:35 PM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
katydid438


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Amen dt!
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Dec 6, 2007 @ 12:57 AM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
JimiG7


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To most people, "unconditional love" is relative. Does it exist? Yes. But you won't find it in those with little or no relational experience.
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Dec 6, 2007 @ 2:41 AM Is Unconditional Love Extinct?    
dt3d2001


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To most people, "unconditional love" is relative. Does it exist? Yes. But you won't find it in those with little or no relational experience.

I mean no offense JG,,, but I have to disagree there.. "Those with little or no relational experience" have not been "used, hurt, and then discarded" enough to build defensive walls, that might prevent them from "believing in it or willing to love unconditionally. It's there attention span or willingness to settle for it when they find it, that is in question. Not having had much experience with relationships, they have yet to learn that "bad is the norm" and a good one is "rare" and should be held onto..

[Edited on 12/6/2007 2:47 AM]
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