| Feb 23, 2007 @ 12:35 PM |
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ISSUESWOPTIONS
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Think about it!
In a relationship women tend to run away because they can't believe it's the guy is true. No, he is not on time, he won't do the little things, he won't listen, he...etc....etc...etc. There really are a few of us guys left that still do follow certain codes of conduct (the BIG C) and (the BIG E. Outside the net)
Sure I or we may tend to act an ass here, but why is it that certain women CAN'T get it through their heads that in reality, we are as we are? Yes we are the nice guy with the bad boy look that will defend you like a knight from a storybook, but still...they don't understand when in front and able to touch. They run
Have women truly, really, lost the essence of truth? Have they been corrupted that much by society? Is it better to just read about him than to really be with him? And if so...why should guys like myself (and others I have noticed on here) care anymore when there is nothing for us?
How many of you guys know these track stars, and what happened because of them?
How many of you women are these track stars, and what is it that sets you running?
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 12:50 PM |
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fayblack
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Maybe, just maybe, the reason some women run (note I said some) is because that while intensity online can be ignored or played down, it can be a little scary in real life.
What comes across as romantic, sensitive and "just what you are looking for" online seems more clingy, stalker-ish and too much like trying too hard, in real life.
If that is not the case, I dunno ... 
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 1:10 PM |
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ISSUESWOPTIONS
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so...we can open a virtual door for you, virtually treat you right, and virtually get you home for a good nights rest, but in reality we are stalkers....WTH?
It seems like it was just said that real romance is dead.....tell me that i am wrong...
[Edited on 2/23/2007 1:15 PM]
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 1:14 PM |
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fayblack
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Sadian, Sadian, Sadian ........
I was offering a possible theory.
A man who opens doors, treats me right and makes sure that I am home in time to get a good night's sleep, virtually and in real life would certainly be appreciated by me.
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 1:22 PM |
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ISSUESWOPTIONS
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A man who opens doors, treats me right and makes sure that I am home in time to get a good night's sleep virtually and in real life would certainly be appreciated by me.
impressive....
I never knew that being clingy in virtual reality was sexy...sorry...romantic....WOW 
is it better then to let your feet hurt after you have had a hard day at work when we know what it is you do all day and provide that foot rub which makes it better?
...or the back rub
...or draw your bath
...or even cook dinner
WOW...I am a Stalker!!! I think I need Stalkers Anonymus
...maybe the POV is different. mine is from a relationship stand point that is beyond dating....let's go back to the dating aspect then...
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 1:46 PM |
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NCViper
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perhaps they think that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck while in the pond...
perhaps it will still be a duck, in the living room...
certainly, there are people that can separate that sort of "virtual reality" here from, well...REALITY
but...not everyone can, not everyone does, not everyone chooses to...some have, but the results scared them off...some are sheep that base their decisions on the words and suggestions of others...some are busy playing their own games...some probably fall into half those categories and more...
in the meantime, "real" people struggle against perception, hoping to find or waiting to be found...
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 2:31 PM |
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Dukums
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I have ran into these track stars. Dated one of them. It was not a pretty situation in the end when it comes to what it did to my heart. When you are just expressing your self honestly and acting in the way that you always act, treating a woman the way your mother taught you, and it is always second guessed, or they accuse you of having an agenda, after a while that "assumption" of your dishonesty or ulterior motives rips your heart out.
Why do they do it? Well I know that in the experience I had, it was because deep down in her heart she did not feel like she deserved "good" treatment. She had been browbeat and put down for much of her previous marriage and had the self image that said, I do not live or behave good enough to deserve good treatment. Thus in her mind, the good treatment was to be treated with suspicion
Because of this experience, when I start to find myself in the position of being probed, my motives questioned, my honesty doubted, or just feeling like the proverbial gift horse that is being looked in the mouth, I pull back into "friendship" mode and wait and see if the problem is short term or long term. If it is long term then I just choose to be a friend and try to be an influence that brings eventual healing.
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 3:39 PM |
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grumblebear
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my history is I attract women looking for the "Bad Boy", my ponytail, harley etc... may give them that impression, but when they found out I worked 90+ hours a week, didn't drink, paid my bills on time... they found me boring so....
they ran off to someone more exciting... usually a drunk, a junkie, someone who beat them, broke their stuff....
the phone calls from them after, asking me to forgive, or visit them in the hospital... nah, its best to cut the strings and stay away...
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 8:14 PM |
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sweet5red
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Ok sadian.... if u read my profile.. yes i like nice guys, they open doors, they show me attention, are romantic.. and all that.. so why am i still single.. romantic, sensitive, Sweet N Louisiana
NICE GUYS CAN WIN
Been lookin for ya honey
Your no where to be found
BEEN scanning the horizon
Nope your not around
My telephone didn’t ring
So I know ya didn’t call
So don’t come knocking
On my door
Cause I aint your
Booty call
Im lookin for a Nice guy
He can be short or tall
Difference tween him and you
Hes a gentleman
And hes lookin for LOVE
And Not a booty call
So if you want
This woman
To think about you twice
Then ya better change
That song you sing
And be
A little naughty
And a whole
Lotta NICE
Written December 3rd, 2006
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 9:00 PM |
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shellsmack1
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Have they been corrupted that much by society?
Are you crappin' me? I think society should be exchanged for the word men. The men have made their own beds and those that have should lay in it instead of continuing to point the finger at the women.
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 9:22 PM |
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Loreli
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Sure I or we may tend to act an ass here, but why is it that certain women CAN'T get it through their heads that in reality, we are as we are?
I can only offer a few IMHO theories:
People have fun here and some aren't all that serious (trust me-I've met a couple of them)
What is an ass to some may not be an ass to others (or...just a small ass depending on what a person is wearing 
Some DO take the time to venture out and make good friends, same gender and not
Some really care about the people they talk to, and until they meet, it's a crapshoot
And it's thundering here with freezing rain-that means it must be true.....today!
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| Feb 23, 2007 @ 9:26 PM |
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shellsmack1
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That's the key, make friends with these people and then take it from there. It takes a bit longer to know someone then just a couple emails and a phone call.
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 12:27 AM |
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BandTMom
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Good topic, Sadian! 
I have run across these track stars and it never even got to the face-to-face.
I guess for some it's all about the reading and typing, but as for me, if I had the chance for the real life version I would jump on him in a heart beat!
Wait...does that make me a stalker???
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 12:45 AM |
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blueyes101
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Great post Loreli
Mom, if your stalkin' me, you aren't doing a very good job.........  You haven't jumped my once.
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 12:47 AM |
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BandTMom
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*jumping on Blu*
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 1:22 AM |
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blueyes101
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Bout time 
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 3:37 AM |
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daniel_at_ipfw
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Maybe you are just looking in the wrong place, and for the wrong woman... I guess all I am saying is this: If you don't want a track star, maybe you shouldn't go hunting for them at the track....
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 4:01 AM |
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lell
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 7:54 AM |
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twotall911
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everyone should look inside for what they are looking for
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| Feb 24, 2007 @ 12:54 PM |
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grumblebear
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TT posted, "everyone should look inside for what they are looking for"
while I agree with that thought... most people are not willing to accept that 100% of any trauma in their life is brought on by the choices they made....
after many years of counseling and therapy, acceptance of my role in my life has taught me that.... We make our own choices, we make our decisions, and we plan our outcomes....
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