| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:15 PM |
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Bionic_Angel
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Any comments on the continuing story of Stargazer & Rimmer gratefully received in this thread.
Thank you.
Angel & Misschief
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:35 PM |
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DiamondRain
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My feedback:
The forums aren't the place for aspiring amateur novelists. The forums are for interactive discussion. Please take it somewhere else.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:38 PM |
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misschief
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It's funny that you were thinking about finishing writing this on exactly the same day as I was, yesterday.
Only another 100,000 or so words to go. 
The forums aren't the place for aspiring amateur novelists. The forums are for interactive discussion. Please take it somewhere else.
Where do you suggest?
I did post a question in the forums and none of the moderators appeared to object.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:46 PM |
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DiamondRain
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Where?
I don't have any suggestions. Just because you can't find an appropriate place to post it doesn't mean you should shove it in here by default.
If the Mods say it's OK, you are on the right side of the law and can continue. But if I had a vote it would still be no. It isn't appropriate for people to start doing this to the forums. What is to stop all the other wannabe novelists from doing the same thing and turning the forum into something it isn't meant to be?
It is a bad precedent.
OK a suggestion ... how about creating a new forum/group specifically for posting this kind of homemade stories? That way people who are interested in reading this kind of stuff can go there. Call it "Stories" or something like that.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:54 PM |
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misschief
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I have mailed the moderator, to see if it is acceptable.
OK a suggestion ... how about creating a forum specifically for posting this kind of homemade stories?
Perhaps the 'poem' thread could be edited to include creative writing?
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:55 PM |
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DiamondRain
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That might be a good solution.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:56 PM |
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misschief
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http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_10_31451_1/Posting_Blogs_In_Sequence.html
I did try to discuss it here. 
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:57 PM |
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DiamondRain
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I am not saying you didn't try to seek approval. I am just saying I don't think this kind of thing is appropriate in this particular forum or other forums like it. That's my feedback as requested.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 1:16 PM |
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misschief
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I fully appreciate what you are saying.
We won't post anymore until the moderator has reached a decision.
Suggestions on how to do this would be welcomed here http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_10_31451_1/Posting_Blogs_In_Sequence.html
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 2:25 PM |
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EternalFlame
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DR, with all due respect...
The story IS an interactive discussion of sorts, between Missy and Angel.
If the mods allowed Hunt to have his very own forum where nobody else could reply, why can't Missy and Angel do this here? I don't understand.
It's a wonderful story so far and I have been waiting for the ending for a very long time. The only reason that it can't be done as it was before is because of the one comment rule in the blogs.
I guess we'll just have to sit back and wait to see what the mods say.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 2:30 PM |
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Loreli
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It's a wonderful story so far and I have been waiting for the ending for a very long time. The only reason that it can't be done as it was before is because of the one comment rule in the blogs. Why don't they just have blog, part 1, 2 etc....like others do?
I'm missing what the "one comment" has to do with it. She writes one, she writes one, those interested WILL read!! 
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 2:44 PM |
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misschief
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Why don't they just have blog, part 1, 2 etc....like others do?
It's a blog that's written between two people, character and comment restrictions apply.
I would still like to direct you here to the discussion, http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_10_31451_1/Posting_Blogs_In_Sequence.html
...because this thread is off topic.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 5:13 PM |
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DiamondRain
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I'm not making any comment about the quality of the story. That isn't relevant. I can't stand that type of thing, so I don't know if it is the greatest thing since sliced raisin bread or it sucks the big one ... that isn't relevant either.
I also don't know who Hunt is, so I am not commenting on that case either.
I can only talk about this case.
And I think posting ongoing long narratives, short stories, Parts 1, 2 or 555 of a story or similar in this forum (Dating & Romance and similar) violates the spirit of what the forum is about.
And I also think it's pretty damn arrogant to post stuff like that here and assume that everyone will just indulge the deviation from the intended format because they are so fond of your superior talents.
I don't have any idea what the problem was when they tried to post this stuff in a blog. That is between them and the Mods. But just because they were ejected from there (I am assuming that is what happened) doesn't mean they have carte blanche to post this stuff here because it's the only place left to post it.
My opinion is that this type of thing should not be allowed here.
I would have no problem if they want to modify the poetry forum to include this type of thing, or create a new forum to do it, or whatever. But I don't think it belongs here.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 5:35 PM |
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EternalFlame
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They weren't "ejected" from anywhere, DR.
There are restrictions on the number of characters allowed in a blog. The stories are TOO LONG for a blog.
And THIS:
And I also think it's pretty damn arrogant to post stuff like that here and assume that everyone will just indulge the deviation from the intended format because they are so fond of your superior talents.
was pretty effin rude.
Geez...if I'd wanted a fight, I would have read the freaking Politics threads.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 6:39 PM |
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DiamondRain
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You are entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that I think that posting that stuff here is rude.
And there is a limit on characters per post here too. But even if there wasn't, you don't post things that are out of format just because the technical specifications permit it.
This is not a fight, it is an exchange of opinions. I've expressed mine. The mods will have the final say.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 6:57 PM |
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SunBabe
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Look, they're trying to do the RIGHT thing within the capabilities and limitations of this website...and this is a "romance" story (which is why I'm guessing is the reason why it's in this particular forum at the moment).
It's just that they're kinda stuck trying to figure out a venue for their story/creative writing "project"...it belongs on the site, but the current site programming doesn't allow for it to be posted as a continuous blog (and that was a change made necessary by "bloggers" who were using their blogs as private chatrooms and forums and bulletin boards -- it's a Catch 22 they've been caught by...accidently  )
I think the "poems" forum should be expanded and called "creative writing" (it was titled before they ever offered blogs, and even then it should have included more than poetry, I'd have thought)...and maybe people would respect the format of a continuing cooperative effort story (hopefully) as well as other creative efforts which could be an obvious invitation to be open for discussion  . I can't see that revamping the blog section once more to allow for unlimited comments again would be a wise move on MD's part -- there was too much leeway that allowed blogs to get way out of control.
BTW, this isn't the first "serial" story that's been posted in these forums -- others have done so before, but they eventually petered out.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 7:05 PM |
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DiamondRain
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I mentioned earlier, that the "Creative Writing" or similar forum solution sounds fine to me.
And I also have no issue with posting this kind of thing in a blog. That is an appropriate place for it.
The fact that it may or may not be about romance is not the issue. It's not the "content" of the words, it's the format. This is not a place to post long,ongoing stories, it is an interactive environment that has a format of short posts and responses. Maybe that is part of the reason why the characters in here are limited to begin with.
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 7:08 PM |
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BionicCouple
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Good God! I've stayed quiet long enough. For the record, we were not "ejected!" from the Blogs. This isn't an original concept on this site. Before the "one comment only" rule more than one blogger on this site had a lot of fun with story blogs composed by several members. In order for the wording to run consistently i.e. one following the other, there needs to be sufficient room. The story we want to post, and actually finish this time, has already been written. Therefore, we can't edit down sufficiently so the appropriate parts actually fit into the comment section. We managed to post two blogs before we realised this was the case.
We emailed each other a lot about it. I was reluctant to come to the forums because I prefer to control my own stuff - and given one or two of the comments here, it's not surprising. However, it became obvious in time that we really didn't have much choice. If there is a way of starting a new Forum group I'd be grateful if someone could show me how, because I think it would solve the problem.
To be honest, it's only the fact that a number of people really enjoyed the story the first time around and wanted us to finish it that I even thought about it. Neither Misschief nor myself would be so arrogant as to imagine we could do whatever we want on a public site. Unfortunately, we are still awaiting word from the Mods on this one, so until then, let's let sleeping dogs lie.
If we need to return to the blogs, we will. I wish people wouldn't get their knickers in a twist over such trivial matters. Surely, if the Forums are such an interesting place, why are they getting involved in this thread in the first place? It strikes me there are a million other places to be, so why aren't they there? If there's anything I hate more it's the vigilante mob. Leave the moderating to the Mods.
[Edited on 10/10/2008 7:15 PM]
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 7:11 PM |
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SunBabe
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Ugh, I can see now that "Creative Writing" in the form of a "poem" in that forum leaves a lot to be desired...Among the top three in that list is "Uncovered Poo" and "Ode to a Fart".  
 
Go BC and MissC...add some QUALITY to the "Poems" forum...PLEASE  (I also wrote to the Moderator suggesting a name change there. I believe the suggestion has been forwarded to one of the techs.)
[Edited on 10/10/2008 7:14 PM]
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| Oct 10, 2008 @ 7:13 PM |
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BandTMom
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I have no problem with people posting a story here. it makes more sense than some of the threads we have now. 
The only problem would be people commenting in the middle of the story and interrupting the flow.
As has been said before, if you don't like it, don't read it. 
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