| May 29, 2009 @ 1:48 AM |
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wiccked
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you have to bring the tool 
and you have to buy the ticket
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| May 29, 2009 @ 1:51 AM |
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plowman
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so I have to buy any Charmin?
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| May 29, 2009 @ 1:52 AM |
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wiccked
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i have all the Charmin you will ever need  Good Night, Sweet Man 
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| May 29, 2009 @ 2:27 AM |
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MotownManiax
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you have to bring the tool
 
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| May 29, 2009 @ 8:49 AM |
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BandTMom
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So how do you reconcile that with your previous statement? 
Don't be a dork, YB.
How do you go from my saying that a man doesn't need to buy my affections to me supporting one? 
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| May 29, 2009 @ 10:29 AM |
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SensualGemini
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Spirit: I know people that work their asses off for people and get very little for what they are taking and they STILL feel guilty for what they recieve. It is all a matter of perspective I suppose. I know lots of really giving people. I also know people that refuse to take because they know they cannot give in return. Ethical to a fault.
....And then someone explained to me that I needed to learn how to accept, so that a giving person could also give. As well, I could never get my mind wrapped around "loving yourself, before you can love another," as that just feels very selfish. I have always felt that someone needs to be shown what love is, before they could know what it was.
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....As far as money buying love, it can certainly help to endorse love, as financial is often the cause of relationship issues. And I believe, at least for a man, that if he is truly in love with a woman, he will make every effort to get her whatever she wants and she needs to be careful of what she asks for, so as not to work him into an early grave.
....Even with Internet dating, where if there is any distance, somebody better have some money to even allow the relationship a potential happening.
....Nevertheless, love is an emotion and non-tangible, you cannot touch it. Thus, you don't need money for love, but rather today and more than ever, since few live off the land, you need money for the tangible things which allows love to become a physical reality.
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....Personally, I don't care what western psychology says, as the past 50 years have done nothing but emasculate men to the point that many search for their masculinity in a woman, while there are women that have taken on the masculine role and for the most part, I believe women learned to, had to, were and are forced to do so.
....Nevertheless, since the beginning of mankind, for thousands of years, women have always been attracted to potential security in a male prospect and rightfully so, as their survival, the survival of future children equated to a man's ability to provide and protect his family and consequently, the strong bred strong, the weak perished and we have all heard how tough just one or two generations back was and is.
....Today, financial replaced the prior ability to provide by hunting, fishing, building, farming, etc., as few still live this way in the US. Thus, the total security required by all humans today is financial, emotional and physical; each and/or a blending of all are required, or there is a void which then becomes the priority. If you are financially secure and healthy, but without love, then emotional becomes your priority to attain, etc.
....Regardless of one's belief or not in gender roles, gender sharing, gender reversal, etc., the genetic feminine attribute will always be attracted to provider (which is now financial) and protector (masculine attributes), while she may or may not be in love with him. Add love and you have a relationship, a marriage.
....In conclusion, money is just a piece of the total package of providing at least the necessities, but no, it does not buy love, but rather makes love easier to happen and makes the subsequent relationship easier to grow into the forever plus one day.
PS: Just my 2 cents today... 
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| May 29, 2009 @ 10:45 AM |
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youbetcha
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How do you go from my saying that a man doesn't need to buy my affections to me supporting one?
If a man doesn't need to buy your affections then who cares if he has any money. You're already making enough to live on. I'm not being a dork. I'm just asking a equal rights, equal opportunity question.
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:06 AM |
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BandTMom
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You are completely missing the point.
While I agree with SG on women wanting and looking for security in a man, it doesn't mean that man has to have a lot of money to by me gifts.
We live in such a materialistic society. So many are out looking for what he can buy me instead of true love and affection.
There's a world of difference in offering security in a relationship and a happy home and in what he can buy me.
While many men may be happy to sit around and let a woman support him, a real man wants to take care of his woman.
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:11 AM |
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beckyiv42000
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I certainly believe it's possible. Women have done it to men forever.
???  Yeah and those same women never had to work in the home either I take it ??/ while the man was working outside the home?? Taking care of a household is just as much if not more work than going to a job where most times nowadays there is no physical labor involved...
I think the whole premise of this topic was that even with millions of dollars if someone doesn't love you ..you wont be able to buy their love.. maybe you can buy their presence but never can you buy love 
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:13 AM |
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beckyiv42000
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While many men may be happy to sit around and let a woman support him, a real man wants to take care of his woman.
and why would he want to take care of his woman ?? AHH because he LOVES HER!!! 
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:13 AM |
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BandTMom
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:16 AM |
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SensualGemini
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YB: If a man doesn't need to buy your affections then who cares if he has any money. You're already making enough to live on. I'm not being a dork. I'm just asking a equal rights, equal opportunity question.
...If a man does not have any money, as in no job, how does he live? How did he live?
...Equal rights and equal opportunity is a two way street for those that insist on it in the home. If he is not going to get a job and provide, then he needs to put on an apron and get to baking, scrubbing the floors, don't forget to swallow and never have a headache.
...Now, if there was just some way for domestic male housekeepers to have monthly PMS, or carry a child for 9 months, we could get a little closer to that equality.
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:19 AM |
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beckyiv42000
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 Sen gets it!!!
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:20 AM |
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BandTMom
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| May 29, 2009 @ 11:52 AM |
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youbetcha
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You are completely missing the point.
Oh I get your point loud and clear. I've had that point down all my life. Like I said earlier, although I agree money can't buy love, it sure can make it possible.
I'm making another point. The point I'm making is money can make love possible, where without it, two people from the net may never meet otherwise. Not everyone that is worth meeting and growing to love has enough money to travel. Money sure helps make that possible.
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| May 29, 2009 @ 12:04 PM |
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BandTMom
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Sure it does.
But it's not going to buy their love once you get there. 
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| May 29, 2009 @ 12:13 PM |
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youbetcha
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Something I'm very aware of. I hated more than anything when my ex laft me for good saying, "I'm leaving you until you get your financial act together". That was really a smoke screen reason, but whatever happened to thick and thin? True love will live in a tent or a palace and be just as happy IMO.
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| May 29, 2009 @ 1:15 PM |
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MotownManiax
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As SG said, love is emotion and feeling. That is totally different and separate from “compatibility”. Too many people confuse the two.
To me, one part of compatibility encompasses the ability to be financially responsible in a relationship. That means being able to take care of oneself, first. Once that’s satisfied, the ability to make extra to either enhance materialistic desires (“spoiling” the other person by buying gifts, going on expensive vacations, etc) or fully supporting a partner is up to the individual.
This is where things get sticky and total relationship understanding is crucial.
If you’re a man and takes the accepted societal role of being the provider and partner spoiler, then you better be earning enough to satisfy that behavior.
I’ve observed that many men that have this mindset have a tendency to want women who are higher financial maintenance and possess much more vanity than the norm. They must feel these types of women are more amenable and pliable in accepting their advances than extremely independent and financially successful women.
Men who think like this usually don’t feel taken advantage of since they feel it’s their “duty” to pamper and spoil their women. Moreover, some even feel offended if their partner objects to their behavior and wants to reciprocate herself?
Again, there is nothing wrong with this if the partner is compatible.
The problem comes when there’s incompatibility, and one partner doesn’t realize their behavioral makeup is not conducive to building a successful relationship with the person of their desires. They end up trying to force the issue in spite of the friction; kind of like pounding a square peg in a round hole.
That such dysfunction is almost pre-ordained to failure goes without saying. But I can’t believe how many people don’t understand themselves well enough to see how their behavior would reek relationship destruction with the wrong person.
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| May 29, 2009 @ 1:30 PM |
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MotownManiax
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Btw, I left out other types of incompatibility for the simple reason they don’t tend to get off the ground in the first place.
Men or women that demand a partner make X amount of dollars and have a certain level of materialism simply won’t accept less. They usually won’t view someone just barely scraping by as suitable relationship material.
Consequently, men or women that love to pamper and pay for everything have nothing to complain about if unscrupulous partners burn them. I’ve actually had people tell me they that “know” they behave this way and get taken advantage, but can't help themselves. They are their own worst enemy and powerless to stop their indulgences. I feel sorry for them, but certainly don’t look at them as “victims”.
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| May 29, 2009 @ 2:13 PM |
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youbetcha
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Love is NOT emotion and feeling. Love is action quite often in spite of how you feel or the emotions at that point. Just look at what the Bible says and tell me you don't want to be treated like this, if you are being honest:
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 (NASB77)
4 Love is patient, love is kind, and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant,
5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,
6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never fails...
Hey, I'm not always loving I know, but I do at least check myself now and then amd try to make the correct adjustment. Once you do the acts of love, the fellings and emotions will follow.
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