| Feb 21, 2006 @ 4:54 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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I see the stereotypical fears rein on this thread. I am childfree. But that doesnt give me a predisposition of not liking children. Actually I like children better than most adults. Children seem to truthful ! But never the less everyone has their own prejustice.
The question I ask myself next is who or what is next on the hit list? I guess it would be those who dont have cars would also be accused of not be able to appreciate them?
In the nineteenth century women were submerged in water to see if they would float or sink. At that time this was the determining factor for determining whether or not they were a witch or not. I guess the ability to think independently has continued to elude most.
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:02 PM |
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Jankia
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OK,you had to fuel the fire because a few dont care for the term childfree.I dont either but it doesnt matter.
What I wonder is how can you say this?
Actually I like children better than most adults
Than most?
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:06 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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Read the rest. It's self explanatory. How can i say it? Because I said it. Would you like to read it again? It's still there.
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:20 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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Actually I like children better than most adults
I happen to agree with this post myself..I happen to like children more then some of the adults that I have known.
As for child-free Adults or child-less I have nothing against them that is their choice and no one elses..no one else can dictate how they live ther lives.
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:20 PM |
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horselady9
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Interesting discussion... spend a couple of days caring for my non-human kids and I missed this! Drat!
One question that comes to mind, though, is why we simply accept some folks having children without examining their motives and values, but let someone remain childless (or childfree, or BARREN to use an old word) and the examinations and evaluations and recriminations are endless!
I always worried about the old axiom that victims of abuse become abusers, so my initial attitude toward motherhood was to run screaming in the opposite direction. I never wanted to risk fulfilling that axiom... Fortunately, it turned out that I couldn't bear a child, so that concern pretty much evaporated - but I know it affected my views of dating men who had their own children. And I can guarantee that my inability to 'breed' was a relationship-killer more than once!
yes, I had, and still have the full-time responsibilities of 'parenting' - in the form of my horses. That need to nurture is fully realized in making them my 'children'. And because of that, I can certainly empathize with people who are faced with a partner who resents or at least fails to understand the committment that 'parenting' requires of the parent.
So whether it is a child, or a cause, or a life-mission, or whatever - the problem I see is the conflict between one person willing accepting the responsibilities, obligations, and sometimes the sacrifices that are part of living up to the committment they've made, when the other person (friend, lover, even family member) simply doesn't get it.
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:21 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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here is your independant answer!
I dont use childless, I dont use child free. When I am asked I usually reply by saying I am not married nor do I have children. At the same token, it doesnt require much smarts as you call it not to find a description offense. By the way, Smart is relative. Where ever you spend the most time is what you will know the most about. I dont consider myself smart. If you do I have no problem with it, as I have no problem with those who use the term child free or childless. It's one thing to be annoyed by something that deserves credence but it is another thing to be annoyed by something not worthy of annoyance.
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:24 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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Nice post horse lady !
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:39 PM |
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JenRNinOhio
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If it weren't for the fact that I have five children I wouldn't mind describing myself as childfree...
But I guess I am childful.
And there's not much free about it.
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 5:44 PM |
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Loreli
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My independent thinking is that somebody took the usually simplistic right to have or not have children. And let us know how strongly they are "anti-child-in-my-own-life." That is an ok feeling. They threw in references from somewhere to support their feeling, which, same as for the rest of us-is just a choice. Everyone starts getting unfriendly, or friendly-free, or friend-less. I don't know anymore! I'm confused and my Webster's won't open.... 
I have kids, I love them, no matter what the good or bad in this world. I hope I have raised them well enough to be the future good. Some of us went forth and multiplied. Others don't have to divide and conquer! Are there child-free restaurants, amusement parks, churches, schools, streets, buildings, hospitals? Because it would be mighty tough to find a child-free world....
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 6:01 PM |
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sjpinatl
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I just say that I do not have children and do not label it. But I have to tell ya, when I want to take certain job assignments or see people trying to run around doing errands with a stroller and a toddler...I feel extremely CHILDFREE 
Childless makes it sound like I'm missing something. But I am not going to make a big deal about it, because at least I do not have to worry about being a single parent. That is much more important than semantics. You can call it whatever you want, just don't ask me to birth no babies! 
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 6:02 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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When I saw the words child free and childless I didnt automatically take the most obscur veiw of the term. I just thought that was their way of saying they didnt have children for whatever their reasons. This thread started about dating people without children and that was in the forefront of my ideas as I applied them to paper. My whole premise surrounded the prejusticial thoughts implying those who didnt have kids were bad news for those who did. Now to go into left field about a term used by some and exploited by others is devisive in itself. Finding a balance is what everything is about. Whether it's children, clothing styles, money, love or whatever catches your eye at any given moment. Now with that said, I dont like squash. But as long as I am not force to eat it I dont have a problem with it or those who choose to eat it. This reminds me of a preconceived notion of those who tell you what to hate and how to hate it without any recourse of encouragement or uplifting. Whether I subscribe to another's idea of right or wrong, I am always open to an idea unlike my own. Not a word, Not a phase but the idea. As you express yourself in any fashion you deem useful, others should enjoy the same luxury. I think if everyone thought likewise progress would be a distant memory.
[Edited on 2/21/2006 6:09 PM]
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 6:08 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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I wouldn`t want to think like everyone else..
I have enough blonde moments as it is.. 
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 6:35 PM |
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kattsmeow
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People with kids are a little like professional sports franchise owners. They expect public subsidy from the taxpayers. Especially the welfare families with eight kids.
This is the part I take offense to. 
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 6:36 PM |
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Jankia
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I'm entirely clueless about this all.
pardon me....cluefree
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 6:43 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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People with kids are a little like professional sports franchise owners. They expect public subsidy from the taxpayers. Especially the welfare families with eight kids.
I beg to differ on this..I raised my 4 kids by myself without the help of public assistance and their father..never once did I ask anyone for help..they were mine and it was my responsibility to provide for them Not the States.. 
I`m not saying that there aren`t those who do do that..I`m just not one of them...
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 7:01 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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-less means WITHOUT something. Not missing it. That's just English.
Youuuuuuu said it ! Without children.......... Duh ! Now enough with this big D_ck contest and posturing.
People with kids are a little like professional sports franchise owners. They expect public subsidy from the taxpayers. Especially the welfare families with eight kids.
This is the part I take offense to.
And you are right to take offense to that. The reality is social programs are a neccessary tool in our society of no accountability. Another reality is social programs in america dont even consist of 1% of the U.S. budget. But everytime a politician want to get elected he uses this to incite the masses in leiu of getting votes. right now there is a very large population of the military families on public assistant programs. Maybe we should abandon them too! There are those who have lost everything in New Orleans who have to turn to social programs for their existence. By the way, there was a mud slide about a week ago on the other side of the world and our government sent help immediately. I wonder when fema is going to give some of those trailers that are sinking in the mud to families that need them in New Orleans. These are issues that should offend us. Not a phrase!
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 7:18 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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Wasn`t gonna comment on Silvers post but I changed my mind.. some people do take offense at the the way things are being done in New Orleans..I`ve seen whats happening down there..but those are thoughts I`d much rather keep to myself..
Ahhh well just my opinion..
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 7:22 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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And I can respect your opinion too !
Devisive-less-ly
You know I had to say it.
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 7:39 PM |
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sciurusniger
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And your point in doing so would be...?
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| Feb 21, 2006 @ 7:41 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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Are you done yet? If not, I'll be over --->here. let's see if you can argue with yourself.
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