| Mar 6, 2006 @ 1:15 PM |
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ahnyceleven

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Lately I've been thinking how very important certain qualities are to me. It's not that I insist that a woman possess these qualities but I think I'd be more into her or aroused by her or drawn to her if she did. The problem is, I'm starting to think that these particular qualities may be extinct. Tell me if I'm wrong. You can't really assign words to name qualities, but some of the names I've heard used are virtue, modesty, decency, morality. Of those, I think I like VIRTUE best. I find virtuousness in a woman to be almost irresistable, but profoundly rare. I confess, most of the women I date offer to jump instantly into bed with or for me. That's, somehow, at least some of the time, actually maybe only on the days of the week that end in "y", a turn-off for me. In fact, I hate it. I've had women show up on first dates sans panties, thinking, somehow, that this would endear me to them or excite me; I've had a woman once actually hand me a wrapped and sealed prophylactic (condom) with her first name and phone number written in sharpie on it; I've had women follow me into the men's room and immediately unbutton. Again, I confess, usually I'm immediately and sometimes even gratefully aroused and instantly erect and ready, but on the inside, where it counts, in my brain and my heart and my logical mind, I'm thinking I should bail right after this. The key word there, of course, which makes me an idiot and a male, is "after". But the bottom line for me is that just ONCE I'd like to meet a GOOD girl...one with principles and strong and decent morals, someone chaste and virtuous, who isn't going to do me orally within the first twenty minutes. So what I'm asking is simply this: is virtue, in this sometimes rotten and jaded sin city of a world, extinct. Is chasteness dead? I need to know because if it is, I'd just as soon give up the search to find that rare and special woman who has both.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 2:17 PM |
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Lee_Danger

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Never give up, ahny, never! The girl you dream of does exist. Please be patient, dear one.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 2:24 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR

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Yes Ah You should Never give up on your dreams...she does exist and shes out there somewhere..You just have to believe..and have faith...if she doesn`t find you,you`ll find her..
(she just made a wrong turn and got lost) *grin*
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 2:32 PM |
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SunBabe

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Please don't even think of giving up. There ARE still girls/women of virtue and quality, ones who prefer a relationship to blossom before hopping into (or dragging you kicking and screaming ) into bed.
Personally, I think the condom phone # type and such are the ones who've misinterpreted the concept of "equality". They feel their gender role/action has to be the same (or even more aggressive) than that of a man...it doesn't have to be that way -- not every woman keeps "Cosmo" as her bedside Bible.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 2:50 PM |
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Roanin

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Oh my dear Ahny..I am here to offer you PROOF that these qualities exist!!! I'm not sure about the modesty thing (seeing as I'm an extravert), but I do know when it is required and how to act appropriately..as to the rest..I am proud of my virtue..before the last boyfriend...I was celibate for 3 years..and even then it took him 6 months to convince me to date him.(does that count?), I have a very high sense of morals and integrety ( I may know if I want to sleep with you within seconds of meeting you, but it doesn't mean I have to act on it that soon), I firmly believe that true passion takes time and the better you know your partner makes the difference between having sex...or actually making love (which is what I preffer). I'm also very loyal, understanding, forgiving and I try to be the best human being that I can be everyday that I'm alive. WE DO EXIST!!!! We're just reeeeally hard to find. So, like Tink said, you just need to keep the faith, you will find her!
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 2:53 PM |
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exiled131

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well, i think i have officially seen everything. a man complaining about women throwing themselves at him without having to really try.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 3:06 PM |
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sciurusniger

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You know, this is rather along the same lines as women with excessive cleavage pics complaining about being approached inappropriately.
Here's the scoop. And it's nothing new. Virtue does, indeed, exist. But She may happen to come walking along while you are otherwise so "unhappily" occupied and too busy to notice Her. Hence, you miss your chance.
Another way to look at this is: be that you seek for like attracts like.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 3:22 PM |
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DwainP50

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I've had women follow me into the men's room and immediately unbutton. Again, I confess, usually I'm immediately and sometimes even gratefully aroused and instantly erect and ready, but on the inside, where it counts, in my brain and my heart and my logical mind, I'm thinking I should bail right after this.
I don’t know why but my BS meter is completely pegged out! Could it be that I have been around the block more than once and know BS when I read it? But since I don’t know the man I will give him a small shard of belief. Woman with Virtuousness please set forward and be counted! (Roanin you are cutter than a button and the fact of what you said in you post show that you are a good woman too) (Sorry about the flirt on his time folks!) Step up virtuous ladies please! LOL
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 3:25 PM |
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sciurusniger

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I believe true virtue is far more modest than that, Dwain. Perhaps that is why She is so often overlooked?
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 3:33 PM |
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DwainP50

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You sure are hard core sciurusniger. Busting my bubble like you did! LOL
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 4:24 PM |
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Classy_Blonde

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If you have so many women 'arousing' you, and you have no problem getting dates, what are you doing at MD? You obviously aren't getting these dates here, because not one woman I know of, that you have been wooing, has ever met you.
I knew you and your brother said you were leaving here, and didn't, but you never told us your half-brother was canceling. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 5:10 PM |
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Ladynwaitn

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of course he won't find dates on here. people on her just lost forums and posts not much dating goes on here just false winks enpty email boxes and lots of bull
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 5:19 PM |
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Classy_Blonde

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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 5:44 PM |
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Jankia

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I knew you and your brother said you were leaving here
You can have brothers on here?
My oldest bro is a Nick Nolte lookalike if anyones interested.
Yea,hes married.......but so what?
Happy Birthday Classy!
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 7:15 PM |
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JesterDrawers

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Sci - GREAT advice:
Another way to look at this is: be that you seek for like attracts like.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 7:20 PM |
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Classy_Blonde

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Thanks Jan,
You're invited to my virtual birthday bash. You too, Jester.
I'm having enough trouble with fakes and weirdos, Jan. Certainly don't want to hook up with a married man. Good try.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 7:43 PM |
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luvshorses644

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Wow. First, I have to say I fought to not post a reply here, but I have been indoctrinated by protests to my opinion often enough to have gained a hard outer shell that will protect me.
I have to say that I simply don't get it. I guess I just fail to understand why, all of this is such a problem for you AH. If what you are seeking is, indeed, a woman that possesses the virtue level you desire, why even give your "unhappy attention" to the others that seem to continue to offer what you do not wish?
I am not going to go on about the inappropriate approaches or emails that I have received a few times as that is not my purpose in posting nor should it be of any importance to anyone. But there are ways of handling such matters appropriately as there is a delete button for the emails or a simple return email saying that it is clearly stated in your profile this is not the type of relationship you are seeking. And the approaches can be handled as easily by politely smiling and saying, "I appreciate your offer, but I call me crazy, and most probably would, I am gonna have to say no thank you as you see, what I am hoping to attain, is a relationship with depth and meaning. And I apologize but I feel to attain such a relationship it requires time to get to know each other, to see how well we mesh in other areas of life, BEFORE we initiate the intimacy part of the relationship. It is important to me that my next relationship be founded in a basis of compatability, honesty, communication, trust and respect.
This way, AH, you will have enough time to devote to finding all the qualities that are important to your soul and heart and, since your attention will not be distracted by a woman who falls in love with her libido instead of her through communicative bonding on other levels first (and before this sets off buttons, this is perfectly fine for anyone that is comfortable and enjoys this type of relationship, I would never say otherwise.. each of us is a unique and diverse human being with qualities and morals that we have adopted thru our lives). A friend of mine once told me .. we truly get what we allow... if you do not allow this type of approach to you, though it may take some time, there will eventually be an end.
I do not know either you or your brother personally, but from the posts you each have left here, I would expect that you already know that the virtuous woman with the values you expressly desire, does exist, and once you have put aside all the other distractions, you will be able to concentrate on building a future with her once you find her. The key to life, as it has been told to me so often, is patience. Things will come to each of us that was meant to be .. not on our timetable, but rather when we have learned the patience needed for those goals and/or desires and can see the signs and hear the guidance that are there for the asking.
Good luck.
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 9:49 PM |
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AngelLight

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"....be that which you seek, for like attracts like."
Yes, like energy attracts like energy!
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 10:13 PM |
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JesterDrawers

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Wow. First, I have to say I fought to not post a reply here, but I have been indoctrinated by protests to my opinion often enough to have gained a hard outer shell that will protect me.
luvshorses....uh....I would like to protest your opinion, if you don't mind!
Honestly, the only part of your whole post that I would take exception with is that which is quoted above! You're an intelligent, thinking woman, and I don't know about others, but I've always had a lot of respect for what you've had to say. I can't say I've agreed 100% of the time, but the vast majority of the time I have. And your opinion is simply and exactly that - your opinion. Neither right nor wrong, although VERY right for you - and in this instance I happen to agree with you wholeheartedly. The reason I take exception to the first part of your post is simply because any time I've seen an opinion expressed so well, even if I don't happen to agree with it, I've always respected that person to hold his/her view - simply because it was well thought out and was not simply something "off the cuff."
That having been said, the silly part of my started taking over when reading your post, and I couldn't help but be left with a bit of a comparison for the OP, and forgive me for taking the liberty here.
It seems to me like women are his "drug of choice", and that being said, sometimes you have to
"Just Say No"........okay, I'll go crawl back under my rock now.....
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| Mar 6, 2006 @ 10:21 PM |
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RAKS37

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Know how you feel AH
these evil women
such sweet talkers
just tryin to get into your pants
and put another notch on their diaphram
Oh when oh when
will someone just love me for me
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