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| Sep 15 @ 11:06 PM |
When break-up jealousy becomes revengeful, crimminal, suicidal or homicidal. |
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Always_Striving

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Today I went to buy a fountain soda at the gas station which I usually go to.
This is the same gas station that I mentioned in one of my blogs about the mom who died in her car while her two babies cried for 3 hours before someone discovered them.
Anyway the clerk behind the counter today was telling me about a murder/ homicide which occurred across the street between the McDonalds and the espresso barista stand. What happened is that the barista's ex boyfriend was waiting in the McDonalds parking lot stalking the new boyfriend who was in her car. The "ex" got out of his car went up to the new boyfriend while he was still in his car and put a bullet into his brain while the barista watched.
Here is the newspaper story
Captured
Here's a video story and a look at the scene of the crime.
Here is something very weird, my dog and I were at this exact location just 4 hours before the murder occurred. I went to the McDonalds to get a mushroom burger just before restaurant closing time 1am. I was looking at that security cam and wondered if it was working because I was eating my late dinner there in front of the barista shack before driving out to the lake later to walk my dog. The "Captured" link above mentions the murdered victim being at the same location with his dog too in his car.... only 4 hrs later. We both have red cars.
You might remember the forum thread: Your Last Acquaintance where I spoke about this incident....
A woman that I liked in the 1990's and flirted with occationally was shot in the back of the head by her ex-boyfriend while she was in her apartment. Apparently her new boyfriend found both dead in a murder-suicide ordeal. According to the newspapers back then, she informed her new boyfriend that the old one was coming by to pick up some of his belongings in the apartment. When she had her back turned he pulled out a gun and shot her in the head then he tried to shoot himself in the head but that did not work so he killed himself with a shot to the chest. The new boyfriend went to the apartment after he did not hear from her. I attended the funeral and saw a father who was drained of tears. It was sad because she was so cute. Weird coincidence again ....that apartment complex is across the street from espresso bar.
I had known 2 other guys (friends of my brothers) that killed themselves over marriage breakups leaving behind kids.
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One of my relative's boyfriend who was an @$$hole anyway took lots of sleeping pills and drove his truck into a head on crash with an innocent woman who is now paralyzed. He is dead and left behind fatherless children (also due to a relationship breakup). I once had a stalking girlfriend who admitted that she burned down her ex's house. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What have you seen or experienced? How does one deal with the emotions of the ticking time bomb.... the one who got dumped?
I not just talking about being the person who's replacing the "ex" and is at risk, or the person who dumped the "ex", but rather someone else like: A friend, a family member, a counselor, a pastor or priest, an online acquaintance, or maybe even a former relationship partner or spouse whom the angered "ex" is cool or at peace with?
How can we help these people before they do something terrible to themselves or to others? How do we recognize the signs of what they are about to do?
[Edited on 9/15/2009 11:32 PM]
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| Sep 16 @ 6:51 PM |
When break-up jealousy becomes revengeful, crimminal, suicidal or homicidal. |
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LJRite

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Again, I dont understand that at all and dont get me wrong I have been there and understand them emotions but to literally kill someone knowing the consequences? I wouldnt want to sit in prison for the rest of my life for a sheer moment of jealous rage, that is retarded and that is coming from a QUEEN of jealousy.
ya know though, and maybe this means nothing in the big picture but some are do get pushed to that point as well by the ex or the ex's new beau, and not to say that is justified by any means but some people just like to know that they have that kind of power over another individual.
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| Sep 16 @ 7:46 PM |
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Loreli


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How can we help these people before they do something terrible to themselves or to others? How do we recognize the signs of what they are about to do?
You don't always see the signs. If you do, each person may need different handling.
Sometimes the only way is to move as far away as possible. But, I would always be concerned about a highly jealous person.
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| Sep 16 @ 7:58 PM |
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Always_Striving

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Thanks for being the first to comment LJRite
From what you have written I gather that you have complete control over your emotions as do all normal people including me, we are not drawn into temptation.
some people just like to know that they have that kind of power over another individual. I am wondering if those who commit such acts do so because they feel that they are losing control or power over the other person's life and they refuse to accept the reality that the other person does not love them or is not dependent on them. They do not like the relationship arrangement.
So could this all be about the perpetrator's insecurity of asserting control over another person's life (trying to control their liberty and thinking), or the perpetrator's emotional incapacity of dealing with a relationship severance (most likely a brain disorder)?
How many of us have seen an angry person take revenge on someone who put a restraining order on them?
Me, I have.... my ex hit me in the head with a car mirror because I put a restraining order on her. BTW, she went to jail .
I know another man who shot his wife in because she put a restraining order on him.
Is it possible that some people in a relationship fears of breaking up because they think or know that their significant other might harm them in someway?
I have also known and dated women who have told me that their husband or "ex" is in prison for domestic violence.
I am wondering if anyone of us might know to intervene or have intervened in such an incident.
I have seen or read about this many times more than I have posted in the examples above. I always hear about the aftermath though, never about what could have been done to prevent it.
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| Sep 19 @ 7:34 AM |
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Strata2007

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I thought my response would be long so I posted it. Sorry for the inconvenience. My response
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| Sep 20 @ 12:06 PM |
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Strata2007

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I am wondering if anyone of us might know to intervene or have intervened in such an incident. There was a secretary at one of the sites where I worked last year who was an absolutely beautiful person inside and out.
One morning one of the clerical staff told me she saw him slap her outside of the office not violently more like a tap on the face. I spoke to her about violence and how it excalates rapidly and easily. She took my advice and broke up with him two weeks later when he verbally abused her. She saw the signs I told her about.
She met another guy three months later and got married last month. God is good.
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| Sep 20 @ 10:09 PM |
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lazareth

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My sister that passed away a few years ago had an abusive b/f... one day he beat her with a belt and her daughter ran up to my house to get me. Sherriff was called and of all damn things, My sis was told she had to leave HER house and he was allowed to stay. before I left, with my sister in tow.. I leaned over and whispered in his ear... " Be out by tomorrow or be dead"... and I meant it. He left.. but harrassed her for months, breaking into the house, leave hateful notes like" See.. I can get in anytime I want"... each time the sherriff was called to no avail. One night I heard his truck come down the road past my house..I jumped in my car, blocked him in the driveway as he was banging on my sister's door. I didn't own a gun at the time so I took a butcher knife... My sis, scared wittless was standing inside the door with a shotgun, that my stepdad had given her.. she had no idea how to use it though. I dared that SOB to hit me.. to hit someone that WOULD hit back.. he didn't have the guts. I would have killed him that night and he knew it. He was eventually sent to jail where he was "greeted" as all child molesters and wife beaters are greeted in that particular jail by other inmates .. yeah, he got raped repeatedly... Years later.. after getting out of jail and the mental hospital.. he had the damn never to show up at my sisters funeral.. but wisely just outside the interior door...
I have never been one to hate another... but I damn sure hated him.. and still do
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