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Nov 14, 2005 @ 7:09 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
laydbak1


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and, just when i was beginning to really believe her... to feel safe n' secure in her words, they sounded as though they were from the heart; honest, forethright... what could possibly go wrong? afterall, she truely meant what she was saying the whole time... right...??? how about: poof... as suddenly as she appeared in my life, she was no more...

when i read these profiles, and i see all the stuff women say about themselves and those over-cliched bazillions of comments about not wanting game players, head games, heart games, whatever games; all directed at men...??? i think somehow, it's as though they themselves are not just as much the gamers as the very ones they bash so casually... perhaps in different ways, but gamers none-the-less...

if you say it, you're on your honor to back it up; unless you have no honor... if you profess it, make it so; no whining about why you can't or won't later... if you say you love someone, then nothing short of criminal behaviour itself changes everything in the blink of an eye...

i chuckle everytime i read some woman on here go adamant and/or philosophical (plaque around neck) about "communication is a must" in a perfect relationship... sure it is... as long as it's what she wants to hear... or else... sound familiar guys...??? lol...

most women profess to "want" openness and honesty from their man... right up until he tries to open up, or clear his conscience about something they don't particularly like; she gets the halo, he get's the pillary, or worse; gilloutine... also, sound familiar fellows...??? lol...

i'm not saying all women or any woman is bad, or that they in general don't want good things; most do... most men do too... all i'm saying is, if you really want someone to know you and come to like you... just BE open and honest and learn to accept that which you hear to BE the truth... don't spend so much energy questioning everything as if it's a bad intention... more often than not, it's just a stupid human trick and forgivable... onward thru the fog and keep loving each other...

not everything has to be about "me" and "i"... sometimes, it's not about anything at all...

i wish you all best of luck
care n' be well
doug
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Nov 14, 2005 @ 8:03 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
Snappygoddess


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I am one of those rare women that is honest, fair and gives as much as I take in a relationship. Yes.. there are still women like that around.. not all of us are liars and disappearing acts.

I understand your being bitter.. just don't let it cloud your judgement and keep you from finding a truly wonderul lady
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Nov 15, 2005 @ 3:53 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
laydbak1


Posts: 6
well, i do thank you for that snappy... not really bitter about it though, she was/prob'ly is, an extrememly nice lady overall... with many wonderful qualities... i guess i'm just not sure how anyone goes about trying to balance all those good things about someone, against the one thing that mattered, the one thing that ended it all... an opinion of course, but to me...??? all goes back to that lil issue i mentioned about communication and being good to your word... if you know someway any two people can telepathize to each other what's really going on inside without actually opening their mouths and spitting it out to the other...??? well, i sure as heck wanna hear about it... lol... i just don't think there's any way to go through and share all the issues of each other's lives than to open up and actually "do" share your feelings about stuff; all stuff, no matter what it is... anything less, well.... that's a solo act and to me anyways, just seems likely bound for trouble down the road somehow...

thanks again for the comments
care n' be well
doug

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Nov 23, 2005 @ 5:06 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
ExacerbatedTaboo


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Thong on fire. Sounds like a contaminated pair of panties.
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Nov 24, 2005 @ 12:14 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
DragonsDream


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Damn Taboo, that just sounds way to painful......
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Nov 24, 2005 @ 12:17 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
ExacerbatedTaboo


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Yeah...It kinda sounds like they would stink to high heaven too.
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Nov 24, 2005 @ 12:23 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
ruready4me2luvu


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If ya don't wear panties you don't have that problem
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Nov 24, 2005 @ 12:36 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
ExacerbatedTaboo


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Then it would go back to pants on fire
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Nov 24, 2005 @ 8:36 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
ExacerbatedTaboo


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I listen to music from all years but I have to admit that I haven't heard that one...Who sings it and I'll download it and listen to it?
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Nov 25, 2005 @ 2:51 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
surfergee


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I think we need to understand that lying is a resort for those who find themselves not wholeheartedly sure of their love for the other person. It is commenced early on in the relationship by the unsatisfied half of the couple and will continue until breakup, the deception deliberately becoming increasingly more sloppy. Don't feel badly. Everybody plays the fool, there's really no exception to the rule.
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Nov 26, 2005 @ 2:24 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
WAYleftofcenter


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laydbak1...I hear you, woman are more than not, two-faced, back stabbing, and way to self absorbed. Thats why I prefer men as friends, they will usually tell you exactlly what they think, especially if you learn how to listen.

Most of my friends are men for that reason. besides the fact that I am honest to a fault and usually say whatever pops into my mind, they are usually much better at handling me in general. I'm easy to get along with, if you can handle my weirdness.

A Monica/Phoebe combination is what OLD Felstaff there will agree with, just ask him, been my best friend for nearly 7 years now, and shock & amazement, he's still around & I havent killed him yet.

Good luck to you and keep up hope, even as you sift through all the bad ones.

[Edited on 11/26/2005 2:26 AM]
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Nov 26, 2005 @ 6:26 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
MACADU


Posts: 53
WAYleftofcenter----of course you would be more
interested in men for your friends----aren't all women???
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Nov 26, 2005 @ 8:08 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
sordofadonkey


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I just think women have different definitions than we do for the same words or phrases.
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Dec 3, 2005 @ 3:22 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
laydbak1


Posts: 6
surfer, what you said about "the deception deliberately becoming increasingly more sloppy" definately rings a bell probably in the majority of similar breakup circumstances... but, i was more directing what i said toward the ones who suddenly go poof; disappearing almost without a trace, as if what you two had been doing together was somehow just a dream, then you woke up...

picture if you will, a phone call; the last of dozens and dozens, almost daily for several months in what seemed an ever growing stronger relationship filled with honesty and caring about each other... the last words you hear from them are, "love you very much baby... i'll talk to you in a little while soon as the kids (ie, grandkids) leave... bye now... mwwwaaaaa...." then... never hear another word from them... nothing... nada...

do the math on that one surfer... there's no simple logic or explanation for people capable of that kind of cruelity and deception... can you say, "guarded r us", now...??? lol...

thank you for the straight up words...

doug
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Dec 3, 2005 @ 11:49 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
Angel54214


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laydbak...by chance have you tried to reach her? see if she is alright and nothing happened to her? Maybe a car accident/maybe sudden illness or death in her family? Hummm, we do always think of ourselves when something happens. If it were me, I certainly would take that step to check. I live alone, God forbid if something happened, no one would know if I passed out or got hurt.
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Dec 6, 2005 @ 6:41 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
surfergee


Posts: 74
For those subjected to lies and other deception, may I suggest referring to topics and advice under the categories dumping and revenge. These sections contain many helpful hints.
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Dec 6, 2005 @ 7:14 AM liar liar, thong on fire    
waiting41


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I say stop JUDGING this woman. Perhaps she had some ghosts from the past that she had not dealt with and when things get to close she gets scared and runs (there's another forum about that somewhere). Some people can't handle intimacy. Forgive and forget. Move on. Give the benefit of the doubt when possible. Don't take it personally. God doesn't make bad people. People make bad people and we just get messed up along the way sometimes. I apologize to you for her as I have done this in the past myself. I hope she finds her way whatever her problem is cause she probably isn't too happy herself!!
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Dec 6, 2005 @ 4:20 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
surfergee


Posts: 74
Dear Laydbak;
I guess I was providing an overly generalized opinion. Reading into your situation a bit more deeply I suspect the abruptness of her departure to be due to the entrance of another man upon the scene who possibly had more to offer in the material sense. Should this be so she is certainly worth forgetting. Wish him luck and be thankful you weren't married. I hear you on what has become a blatant double standard; a woman's clarion demand that any potential man of theirs must be true while they reserve the privilege to maybe game play.
Please don't classify me as a misogynist. I'm not. I've simply learned the rules the hard way, know how the deck is stacked and have therefore withdrawn from the game.
Last words of advice: Keep your faith in God and your sense of humour and you'll get through anything.
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Dec 6, 2005 @ 11:37 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
facetrock


Posts: 51
Ladybak. I think I might get flamed for this but I dont feel sorry for you at all. This is the danger of becoming to involved with someone you never met. The internet is not a nice place. There tens of thousands of people on it that are litte more than human trash, some dont even qualify for that. You set yourself up for getting hurt, telling someone you loved them and have never met them in the short span of a few months. You had bad luck and met someone that really wasnt sincere. But what do you expect from a person that is so shallow they can tell you they love you without ever meeting you. I call it desperation on your part and game playing on hers. Dozens and dozens of phone calls and a lot of I love you honeys and you still hadnt met? Why not? Whats the holdup? Admit it, you got caught up in your own fantasy.
Its so easy to talk about love, feelings, and your dreams with someone you have never met. Why? Because it isnt real until you have met that person. Its virtual and its safe because you really dont know the person your telling it to. When she would tell you that she loved you could you see it in her eyes? Hell no, you were miles apart and had never met. She is a predator, there are men like this too. She won, you fell in love with her and when she was sure of it she got rid of you. Remember the internet is full of scum and people that do this get a huge ego boost out of it. The reason they do it on the net is because they are not nearly clever enough to do it in real life. Its time for you to quit being so sensitive, take your heart off your sleeve and grow a pair.
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Jun 4, 2006 @ 7:16 PM liar liar, thong on fire    
laydbak1


Posts: 6
facetrock...

wished i'd gotten back here a little sooner and read your last comment there about my subject here.. hey bro, i agree with almost everything you said and accept every little gouge you made about my getting suckered and why... only thing one thing, and i guess i should've mentioned it to begin with... this woman and i had met in person... and, we like ol' forrest gump said, we wuzz like peas n' carrots together... yes, i saw love in the woman's eyes... i'm not so easily duped like that... we'd known and visited and talked together for months...

an update on what happened six months after i initially wrote on this subject... just so everyone would know the end of the movie here and seal off this little blog for anyone who happens onto it later...

i learned from a close friend of this woman; her roommate actually... that she was playing the field... i was only one... she's done similar things to other guys since; ie, having a steady relationship with one, but fooling around with others on the side including an old boyfriend she'd lived with who gives her money or whatever she needs at the time... moral of it all is: typical woman with no upright character, having no desire nor ability for loyalty to anyone, and having zero reservations about lieing to about anything to get what she wants... and, she's very good attit... la caveate' emptor fellas... they're out there...

thanks facetrock... you did a good job summing it all up with what you had to work with...
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