| Mar 27, 2007 @ 6:15 PM |
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doc65270
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i understand why we are in iraq and i am in agreement with us being there to a degree. we have cought some of the top dogs and i feel we can do no more good over there. i feel that its time to pull out and bring all our troops home. what do you think????? doc
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| Mar 28, 2007 @ 6:10 PM |
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stilsearchn
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yea I could go for bringing our troops home where they all belong, but I hope they find the dude responsible for NYC, which would involve a totally different country..and that's all I'm saying on the subject; I don't like to discuss politics/war and religion with my friends.
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| Mar 28, 2007 @ 10:45 PM |
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cowboyII
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ye'all want ta hear what i have ta say?......im ready to and even more then ever, just this time w/o holdin back
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| Mar 31, 2007 @ 2:11 AM |
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tomccc
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We never should have gone in the first place. I've been against this war from the inception.
We are over there to protect Israel.
Iraq has never been our enemy, yet it is one of Israels biggest.
Now they are beating the drum to invade Iran, another threat to Israel.
We are sacrificing our people, blowing billions in our tax dollars, and Israels enemies are now ours.
Sweet deal for them.
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| Apr 5, 2007 @ 11:54 AM |
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Martin666
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Tom, you're a jew hater! Curious...
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| May 8, 2007 @ 3:32 PM |
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lowspark56
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We are waging a war based on lies, no weapons of mass destruction, no terrorists, at least none until we invaded. How many more Americans and Iraqis must die before Bush and his right wing cronies get it through their thick heads that we have made another messand we have to clean it up. Billions of dollars wasted on destruction. Bush will never admit he was wrong. He and Cheney should be impeached. Our millitary is out of control, toturing prisoner, murdering civilians. This is total madness and the people who voted for Bush a second time have to shoulder th blame. Even my 16 year old daughter gets it. she has a button that reads " bombing for peace is like screwing for virginity" For tyhe love of all that makes sense bring our troops home now.   
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| May 9, 2007 @ 10:35 AM |
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Banzai_Coyote
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what are troops for anyway...ex 2/4 infantry here. Iran is not about Jews...its about people who hate us having the ability to nuke us. If we have learned anything from 911 its to get them first before they get a chance to get us...fight our battles over there and not over here. Yes we have lost troops...but we lost as many in a few hours in NYC as we have the whole gulf war. As for Bush...bash him if you want...but how many terrorist attacks have we suffered since 911? Does anybody believe that when we bring home our troops that fundamentalist Muslims will stop their jihad? Not going to happen...They are not fighting just to get us out of there...they are fighting a war of religious faith. Until the world is converted or unbelievers are all dead, their war isnt over...only the battlefield will change....and a victory over there will only encourage them more. I dont have the solution....but I am smart enough to know pulling out is the wrong solution...that puts me ahead of many people at least.
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| May 9, 2007 @ 2:17 PM |
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doc65270
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no terriorst? you have got to be kidding me. thats why we are there because iraq is where they are hiding out at. and we got housain or what ever his name is. he tooka ride on the end of a rope remember. and martin tom is very confused mixed up and chompin on a empty feed bag just go on like he never was here.
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| May 9, 2007 @ 3:28 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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So I was minding my own business when I saw these falsehoods posted:
We are waging a war based on lies, no weapons of mass destruction, no terrorists
This is another example of the Hitler BIG LIE TECHNIQUE at work by the Liberals.
The War in Iraq is really WORLD WAR III; there were ample weapons of mass destruction captured by American troops, notably sarin gas artillary shells, and Iraq under Saddam was a State that sponsored terrorism as a finding of fact enacted by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress PRIOR TO THE ELECTION OF GEORGE W. BUSH.
So, there were plenty of state-sponsored terrorism activities and training camps going on in Iraq under the Saddam regime.
ATTENTION ALL LIBERALS: STOP LYING ABOUT LYING.
The "Utopian-American" viewpoint. And thats the way it is, Datline America, good night and good luck.
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| May 9, 2007 @ 3:35 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Another Polyanna viewpoint espoused and exposed:
I could go for bringing our troops home where they all belong,
Troops do not belong at home. They are posted in foreign lands BY INVITATION OF THE HOST COUNTRY to preserve the balance of power, project American hegemony, protect international commerce, and as a hedge against the adventurism of foreign tyrants; or, in the alternative, like the situation in Iraq, troops are posted abroad because some foreign leader gets too big for his or her britches and incurs 17 United Nations Security Council Resolutions, the last culminating in the UN sanctioned use of force "by any means necessary" to oust the Saddam regime, or when NATO used military force to bomb Serbia into submission with regard to their genocidal war crimes policies.
So, welcome to reality 101: troops brought home means the unleashing of unfettered tyrants abroad and the preying upon the defensless by warlords, dictators, or hate regimes. Got it? Good. The test is every Tuesday.
The "Utopian-American viewpoint. And thats the way it is, Datline America, good night and good luck.
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| May 9, 2007 @ 3:43 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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This bit of truth is brought to you by the MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS:
Does anybody believe that when we bring home our troops that fundamentalist Muslims will stop their jihad? Not going to happen...They are not fighting just to get us out of there...they are fighting a war of religious faith. Until the world is converted or unbelievers are all dead, their war isnt over...only the battlefield will change....and a victory over there will only encourage them more.
There is an anwer for Jihad; the word is CRUSADE.
The "Utopian-American" viewpoint. And thats the way it is, Dateline America, good night and good luck.
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| May 10, 2007 @ 2:07 AM |
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doc65270
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well law iraq didn't invite us there! we went on our own accord because sadsum was hiding out terriorst in iraq. that is the main reason why we are there. ok now i say once again we have done all we can do over there now its a needless loss everytime one of our troops gets killed. now its time to bring them home. !!!
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| May 21, 2007 @ 10:51 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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iraq didn't invite us there! we went on our own accord
Sorry, Doc. You still don't get it. Iraq INVITED the entire world to remedy their intransigence and defiance of International Law when they voluntarily chose to flaunt UN Security Council Resolutions.
The UN Security Council invited every Member State of the United Nations, in the 17th Security Council Resolution, to induce Iraq into unconditional compliance "by any means necessary" which is United Nations Security Council language that authorizes interested states to utilize military force against Iraq.
Got it? The United States government intervened in Iraq, not on our own accord, but in compliance with the United Nations Charter which having been ratified by the US Senate as a Foreign Treaty, is now cloaked with the status of being the "Supreme Law of the Land" along with the US Constitution and the laws enacted by the US Congress, notwithstanding the provisions of the constitutions or statutes of the several states, in conformity with the United States Constitution's supremacy clause.
This is not a "News Flash" but it is High School level civics lesson, but maybe you never did grasp the finer points of Constitutional Law, Doc? Maybe you did your advanced studies in "International Appeasement" or the finer points of "Cutting and Running" through the briars and the brambles at the first whiff of powder and ball?
While it is true that the insurgents are nipping at our heels with modest casualties when compared to prior military history, the USA is in now way being militarily defeated in Iraq.
Where Al Qaida is making their greatest gains is not in Iraq, but in the hearts and minds of those Americans who have no stomach for the sweat, blood, toil, and tears that war always requires of a nation. The leftist/socialist/liberal Democrat anti-war claque that "Hates America First" is crafting and orchestrating the domestic opposition to President Bush and the United Nations authorized American police action in Iraq. And the worst part, Doc, is you appear to have bought into the leftist/socialist/liberal Democrat rhetoric that is designed to cut America off at the knees from behind the lines on the Home Front.
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| May 22, 2007 @ 10:36 PM |
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jellybean635
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play nice there paralegal...... no need to be bad mouthing someone over this.. that is the reason people should not discuss politics.... they should stick to other things like love and sex...lol
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| May 22, 2007 @ 10:39 PM |
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jellybean635
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also, you have the media to thank for all the miscommunications.. especially the ones that are in the house as of now... they are leading people astray that is for sure.. now lets get off of politics
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| May 23, 2007 @ 12:35 AM |
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Mattfishin
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(ears perked up ) someone say get off?  
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| May 23, 2007 @ 8:29 PM |
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jellybean635
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I knew someone somewhere would see certain words that would get them off the topic of Iraq and politics...lol
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| May 24, 2007 @ 12:00 AM |
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Survivor1969
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Hello all;
I agree that this war has dragged out. I want our troops home too. In my opinion. I think we need to go on the offendsive. We start going on the offendsive, they may give us the rat who started all this and start making the Iraqis help in the war. After all it is their country.
Take Care Everyone
Ron
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| May 25, 2007 @ 6:04 AM |
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hopeful_lady
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Its their Country that is true, who are we to be in the middle of their social structure? Would we like another Country to send troops to the USA to change our Government? Well thats exactly how its seems to me. Their are three Arab Parties there each trying to top the other and guess who is right in the middle of it, the US is. Everyday our soldiers are killed because we are there when we should be home. The National Guard was created to protect our Homeland not to be in another Country. Everything President Bush does is based on lies. They just keep our troops there so Congress can keep giving more and more billions of dollars to the Defense Department. How much went to the hurricane victim's families from Katrinia, yeah liberal talk, right, liberal talk to say the money could help we the American people who live here. So Republicans only care about money and the heck with helping the American people who are hit at home with natural disasters. How much went to help them, answer that all you Republicans.
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| May 26, 2007 @ 5:44 AM |
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Banzai_Coyote
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First...the Shiites (Shia) would be surprised tofind out they are Arabs since they have thought of themselves as Pershans since before there were Arabs, and the Kurds are more like Turks then Arabs. The National Guard isnt just to defend home...every soldier swears to protect his country from enemies both foreign and domestic...vets know about the swear in. Every soldier in our army is a volunteer, nobody forced them to go...do you think we pay soldiers not to fight....its their job. As for troops being over there, remember this..between 1914-1945 no American troops were stationed in Germany....millions died in two wars...in the 60 years following us being there, Germany was in no wars what-so-ever. If we leave Iraq too soon the Iraqi deaths will be in the Hundreds of thousands.
Perhaps my liberal friend wants to fight Muslim extremists over here but personally I think most would prefer to hit them there then wait here for them to hit us again. I dont like the war either, but we cant throw flowers at them.
For all the Bush bashing one thing is clear...theres been no more 911s. Give him that much credit...that you are reading this and not lodged between a brick wall and airplane cockpit.
As for Katrina...New Orleans has always been a corrupt city, maybe the most corrupt.. You cant get a shovel of dirt moved unless you go to Bubba for the permit, then to his brother for the workers, and his nephew to buy the equiptment from. Thats the way it is. With global warming and already below sea level, it probably shouldnt be rebuilt...move it uphill 40 miles away and start over. Why is the federal government responsible anyway...how many have built things without help...afterall...its called assistance isnt it? I guess those that rebuilt had flood insurance and no government handouts.
Nothing is more dangerous then a liberal with good intentions and bad information.
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