| Mar 13, 2008 @ 6:59 AM |
The Hypocrisy of Politics.
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Kat_luvr
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Ever notice those who set the law and scream about the law are the first to break the law?
Politicians and law enforcement are the biggest law breakers.
Reminds me of what they say behind closed doors.........'LAWS ARE FOR OTHER PEOPLE"
I never liked Eliot Spitzer.
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| Mar 13, 2008 @ 7:33 PM |
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mike105
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Thats why he had to go....... at least one thing, we know the new gov wont be playing golf all day hahahahhahahahah
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| Mar 13, 2008 @ 7:45 PM |
The Hypocrisy of Politics.
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Kat_luvr
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Yea he is gonna be the one with the job of cleaning up and regaining the peoples trust.........No small task.
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| Mar 14, 2008 @ 12:25 PM |
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smilingfaces79
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Is it hypocrisy or is it that society holds a humanbieng to a higher standard because of the position they hold? I believe it is the latter. It seems to me that society expects a higher level of morality out of any one in government or any position that grants them authority over mass groups of people. That is just not going to happen because we are humans first and then employees.
The person that pulls you over for doing 95 in a 30 is subject to the same flaws that everyone else has. It is the title or the uniform that person has that makes other people expect Jesus like characteristics.
What is the difference between Spitzer and the guy next door who pays for sex? His occupation? Placing higher expectation on a person because of the position they hold or seeking to hold is a problem. It is one of the major problems with politics. People expect perfection from a person who exists in an imperfect society. It is impossible. The individual that does not partake in prositution has someother flaw. It may not be a flaw that invokes the ire of the nation but it is still a flaw. For all we know the person next us at work might fart in the tub and bite the bubbles. But that doesn't matter as long as he/she is not in a position of authority.
[Edited on 3/14/2008 1:48 PM]
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| Mar 14, 2008 @ 3:43 PM |
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Nordicman
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Smilingfaces: you are being too nice to Ex-Governor Elliot Spitzer. Being a Harvard Law grad, District Attorney, then Attorney General and finally Governor is more than just an occupation. He lived for law and order, and then power and control, and was full of himself. If he had been a single working guy, I would have cut him a lot of slack. But he was very rich, had a pretty lawyer wife, 3 young daughters (!) and a history of arrogance and hostility to any one who differed with him. I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law: no deals. That is what he would have done to us.
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| Mar 14, 2008 @ 4:31 PM |
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mike105
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AMEN!!!
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| Mar 14, 2008 @ 8:23 PM |
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Kat_luvr
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Double AMEN!
If you are gonna hold a gun to ppls heads and make them obey the law under threat, then arent you expected to do the same?
I do believe Jesus Called them .........HYPOCRITS!
WHEN LAWS are for a few and not ALL something is very wrong!
While I almost felt sorry for the guy being publicly humiliated ( I said "ALMOST")..What about his wife and daughters? They have just been thrust into the limelight, ( un warranted and unwanted, no doubt).
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| Mar 15, 2008 @ 12:47 AM |
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smilingfaces79
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Being a Harvard Law grad, District Attorney, then Attorney General and finally Governor is more than just an occupation.
Being all those things makes him what? More accountable than you or I? If that is so, I would like for you to explain why?
But he was very rich, had a pretty lawyer wife, 3 young daughters (!) and a history of arrogance and hostility to any one who differed with him.
So because he is an a hole that makes him more accountable? Explain?
If you are gonna hold a gun to ppls heads and make them obey the law under threat, then arent you expected to do the same?
Okay that statement opens up a whole new can or worms. What law enforcement officer put a gun to your head and said, "Obey the law or I will shot you.  " If that happened to you did you file a complaint and retain a lawyer? 
I actually doubt that happened to you but if it did that officer was wrong and deserves to be prosecuted.
Not every law enforcement officer miscellaneously pulls a gun on a person. Some officers have a God complex as do some who are not officers. Some officers are pyschopaths as are some who are not officers. Until they genetically engineer a breed of humanbieng that is devoid of all the undesirable traits that exist, you will have deal with some unsavory characters in uniform.
I do believe Jesus Called them .........HYPOCRITS!
Jesus Christ! You do know that Jesus was the son of God. The son of God can call anyone anything he wants. When your lineage includes the Creator of everything you are not on same playing field as the rest of us. Yeah, Jesus was tested and he persevered and blah and blah and blah. Devoted Christians say they want to be Christ like because it is impossible for mere mortals to be exactly like the son of God. Man is plagued by his own imperfections.
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged
The crux of my argument is best summed up by this qoute:
"Judge not, that ye be not judged"
Mathew 7:1
[Edited on 3/15/2008 1:29 AM]
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| Mar 15, 2008 @ 8:02 AM |
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mike105
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he....by being a attorney general........ passes judgment on others......so... your saying "judge not, that ye be not judged " fits perfectly. Is a policeman held to a higher standard?? A teacher? A priest? They are in a position of trust. When they violate that trust, their punishment should be worse.
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| Mar 15, 2008 @ 12:51 PM |
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smilingfaces79
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An Attorney General is the chief law officer of the state, empowered to act in all litigation in which the law-executing power is a party, and to advise this supreme executive whenever required. An Attorney General is not a judge their job is to prosecute individuals that break law. The laws are supposedly designed to reflect the will of society. If an Attorney General did not rigorously prosecute people who broke the law he/she would be out of a job. It not passing judgment it performing a job function.
Judges are elected officials that the public chooses to sit in judgment of others. Which I think is terrible because they are no different from you or I. Why should they have the right to pass judgment on anyone?
A teacher, police officer and a priest are people just like you and me that chose a profession or a calling. They should be punished worse because they of the position they hold? That is society deciding that just because a person has a certain job they more than mere humans. I have never read about or been made aware of any cross section of society that lacks all human flaws. Until a group like that comes into existence people need to calm down.
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| Mar 15, 2008 @ 1:10 PM |
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Kat_luvr
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Judge not, that ye be not judged"
No you have it wrong......
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again
As Christians we are called to judge, for GODS laws Set forth the compass of right and wrong.
It is the manner of judgement that we were warned about......
BUT This is not about Christians it is About Politicians....And those in Power.
AND YES.... If you have that Position you are to be held to a higher standard.
IT IS NOT "DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO
It is the Laws are for Everyone and if you set them you should keep them.....
When I said putting a gun to my head I was talking fictiously not literally.... If the threat of jail can be compared to a gun agaisnt ones head.
Lets Face All POLITICIANS are CORRUPT A-HOLES!
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| Mar 15, 2008 @ 1:16 PM |
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Kat_luvr
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A teacher, police officer and a priest are people just like you and me that chose a profession or a calling. They should be punished worse because they of the position they hold?
The Reason for Background Checks...........They are in a position of trust.
Judges are elected officials that the public chooses to sit in judgment of others NO They are to measure them against the law....Actually we are supposed to have Juries for this, but we know that judges have done away with the whole jury nullification process as well.....So that job is moot as well......Judges are nothing more then another branch of politics, anyway.
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| Mar 15, 2008 @ 3:18 PM |
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Kat_luvr
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For the record:
Federal judge linked to call girls
Police found name on 'Denver Sugar' clients list
Posted: March 14, 2008
10:49 pm Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Judge Ed Nottingham
U.S. District Judge Edward Nottingham of Denver, who presided over the insider trading trial of former Qwest chief Joe Nacchio, has been linked to a ring of high-priced call girls known as the Denver Players, or Denver Sugar, according to newspaper and television reports in the Mile High City.
KUSA-Television reported recently that Nottingham's name and telephone number appeared on a list of "clients" seized during an investigation into the alleged prostitution ring. The station also quoted a man who reported driving prostitutes to encounters with Nottingham.
"He is being investigated for improper judicial conduct after his full name and personal cell phone number appeared on a list of clients from a Denver prostitution business," KUSA said.
I hope he fries as well!
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