| Nov 29, 2008 @ 4:52 PM |
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TheMyth

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IT amazes me anymore how shallow so many people seems or for that atter heartless it seems if you dont have a car or a ton of money your not with the time . I spent 3 years taking care of my children 24/7 I lost track of alot of friends then when the relationship was over she took of with my kids didnt let me see them for almost two months and now that I have time to date it seems I dont know anybody anymore so ive tried these online sites and once someone finds out your not made of money man are they gone yes im poor but im not looking for someone to support me so what the hell I like money as much as the next guy but their are more important things someone to care about is one of them it doesnt matter how good a person you are if your broke your not in very high demand man its so aggrevating sometimes, then you see these profiles that want the perfect man well there are no perfect people period i cook like a chef i clean i take care of my kids and im nowhere near perfect ahhh well I guess i just dont get it
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 10:01 AM |
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null_geodesic

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Just to compare notes...
I've never met a woman who was out for money. I've dated all kinds of women from all across the country. All different shapes, sizes, age, experiences, races, cultures, etc and not a single one was out to grab money. Logically, I know they must exist, but I've never actually come across one.
If I may be so presumptuous to speak on behalf of the fairer sex, I believe most women would care more about your spelling, grammar, and ability to form a coherent sentence than your ability to bring in money.
In fact, I believe most women are looking for love, a reasonable level of intelligence, humor, a healthy sex life, someone who can take care of himself, and good companionship.
To that end, if I may be so bold to make some friendly suggestions:
1. Ditch Internet Explorer and use FireFox. At least your spelling will appear to be correct.
2. Lose the bitterness. Nobody wants to be with a bitter person, and that includes men as well as women. Seriously.
I would tend to agree that you "just don't get it." You seem to be clueless about what dating is all about. In simple terms, you are a salesman, and your potential date is your client. Your job is to take your product (that would be your magnaminous self) and sell it to your client (that would be the chick.)
That means putting your best foot forward. A bitter rant about how all women are out to get money is not called putting your best foot forward. Women are going to read that and run away. Or, if I may return to my metaphor, your client is going to see an undesirable product and close the door before you even get a chance to show her all the groovy and nifty things your product can do.
Lastly, I believe there's a distinction between not having a decent salary and not having any salary. I think most women would be OK if you weren't exactly a Bloomberg or Bill Gates. But not having a job is a little indicative of the fact that something may be a amiss. I don't know if that's your sitrep, but I just thought I'd mention it, because it falls under the category of having your life in order.
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 12:55 PM |
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TheMyth

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I know not all women are like that or out for what they can get I never said all I just seem to find the wrong ones apparently as for income I have an income its just not a very large in come and as for that rant it wasnt meant to be bitter just frustrated , granted it probably did come off that way for that I am sorry .Its just that I may not be rolling in money but Im intelligent have three beautiful kids and all thats missing is that one woman who makes me feel more alive then ive ever been the one that makes me feel good just by being in the same room with her thats all.
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 12:55 PM |
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TheMyth

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I know not all women are like that or out for what they can get I never said all I just seem to find the wrong ones apparently as for income I have an income its just not a very large in come and as for that rant it wasnt meant to be bitter just frustrated , granted it probably did come off that way for that I am sorry .Its just that I may not be rolling in money but Im intelligent have three beautiful kids and all thats missing is that one woman who makes me feel more alive then ive ever been the one that makes me feel good just by being in the same room with her thats all.
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 12:55 PM |
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TheMyth

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I know not all women are like that or out for what they can get I never said all I just seem to find the wrong ones apparently as for income I have an income its just not a very large in come and as for that rant it wasnt meant to be bitter just frustrated , granted it probably did come off that way for that I am sorry .Its just that I may not be rolling in money but Im intelligent have three beautiful kids and all thats missing is that one woman who makes me feel more alive then ive ever been the one that makes me feel good just by being in the same room with her thats all.
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 3:59 PM |
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null_geodesic

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And that's totally OK. MD is a *great* place to form friends and have people listen to you get a load off your chest.
Just remember that potential mates can see your posts, and the totality of your online persona is your picture + posts + blogs + email + ..., because who you are in person goes into your online persona only very weakly. By persona, I'm talking about how others see you, of course, not as how you see yourself.
Have you tried CraigsList? That might be a good avenue for you too.
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 9:47 PM |
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TheMyth

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no I havent actualy Im not even sure what it is lol never heard of it!
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 9:47 PM |
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TheMyth

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no I havent actualy Im not even sure what it is lol never heard of it!
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| Nov 30, 2008 @ 9:47 PM |
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TheMyth

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no I havent actualy Im not even sure what it is lol never heard of it!
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| Dec 1, 2008 @ 12:38 AM |
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null_geodesic

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Reminds me of Joseph Heller (except thrice instead of twice). lolz...
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| Dec 1, 2008 @ 11:04 AM |
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eastham

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I tried, really I did, to read the opening post without a concurrent rise in my blood pressure, but alas to no avail. And what elevated the old BP? And in what order? Bad grammar, spelling and diction came in first and all women are money-grubbing whores was a distant second.
I concur with Null's recommendations. I would add a few of my own. Get a library card and use it. Read. Expand your horizons. Go to free cultural events. You'll probably meet some lovely people there.
Secondly, stop being attracted to money-grubbing whores. As Null noted,
In fact, I believe most women are looking for love, a reasonable level of intelligence, humor, a healthy sex life, someone who can take care of himself, and good companionship. Null is correct. While logic tells us all there are both men and women who are motivated by greed, most of us never know these people, because we are not attracted to them. Look at Bill Gates, for all of his money, he didn't marry a hood ornament. He married a serious-minded, kind-hearted woman who helped him see that he could use his vast wealth for the public good. By comparison look at Donald Trump, he has been married three times to successively younger women -- trophy wives. His lifestyle is all about consumption and he views his wives as consumable goods and apparently they do the same. Distasteful, exceedingly, but mutally distasteful.
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| Dec 1, 2008 @ 11:37 AM |
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TheMyth

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now your twisting word I never said all woman are money grubing whores in fact I never said they were whores at all never even implied that !
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| Dec 1, 2008 @ 11:37 AM |
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TheMyth

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now your twisting word I never said all woman are money grubing whores in fact I never said they were whores at all never even implied that !
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| Dec 1, 2008 @ 2:26 PM |
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Cynbaby

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I know that Null and Eastham will disagree with me and that's fine since I love them both .......but almost every guy friend I have or any guy I have dated in the past has always told me that there was a women, especially "some" foreign women who are indeed only into a guy for the money and what they can get out of them. Living here in NY we have many foreign women who are hard working and successful so I am certainly not implying all, however there seems to be a cultural thing with some of them that the man must provide for them otherwise no relationship.
Now I'm not saying that this is a bad thing either, this is the manner in which they were raised, but if I had a dollar for every guy who told me they got involved with a women in NY just to realize she was using them, well I'd be well off ..... then I wouldn't have to be a money grubbing whore, LOL, just kidding
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| Dec 1, 2008 @ 2:28 PM |
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eastham

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Yes, I know I added the w-word and you didn't Myth...but what are they trading?
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| Dec 2, 2008 @ 9:26 AM |
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null_geodesic

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Actually, you may be too kind to prostitutes. At least they tend to be honest and frank about what is the oldest kind of business transaction humanity has.
How strangely evolution has treated us that the man-pays-for-sex business model would be such a strong and viable one. I guess genetically, mens' brains are wired to impregnate as many women as possible to help pass along the DNA and propagate the species. A holdover from our evolutionary roots that goes beneath this large cerebrum we carry around with us.
Cynbaby, maybe the problem is that I only sleep with intelligent people who, in my eyes, stand out in some way that sets them apart from others, but I have a very large statistical sample size, I've *never* met a woman who was "only out for money".
It's a popular put-down men use for women. But my point is, you've only heard about it second hand from guys. I believe it has a misogynistic root that diverts the cause of being dumped:
"Oh, man. She dumped me. I guess I couldn't give her enough money?"
rather than
"Oh man. She dumped me. I guess I shouldn't have been such a jealous asshole to her and her friends"
And in the event that I'm wrong, I can at least solace myself in the fact that I always seem to form relationships with really awesome kick-ass women.
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| Dec 2, 2008 @ 12:48 PM |
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eastham

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And in the event that I'm wrong, I can at least solace myself in the fact that I always seem to form relationships with really awesome kick-ass women. Null, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
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| Dec 2, 2008 @ 2:17 PM |
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chicagohowell23

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I agree with null completely. Besides we tend to attract a certain type of person, have you tried investigating why you attract that type of woman, a little introspection wouldn't hurt.
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| Dec 2, 2008 @ 2:25 PM |
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eastham

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Amen, Chicago. My thoughts exactly.
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