| Jul 22, 2006 @ 4:53 PM |
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Dovestreasure
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Parents all have a moral obligation to teach children right from wrong. To do anything less is neglect. Recently I met a single father who blatantly allowed his young child to shop lift. I know that its not unusual for a child to pick up something in a store and carry it around and accidentally walk out with it. A good parent would use this as an experience to teach and rightfully return the object to the store. This father saw absolutely no wrong in this behavior , and this little one made it a regular practice to slip something into her pocket on shopping excursions. While daddy chats with store personal , she hides under the clothes racks filling her pockets. Daddy thinks this is okay. One day this child will get caught. This is terribly sad.
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| Jul 22, 2006 @ 4:59 PM |
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chinabull2000
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What a complete scumbag, he doesn't deserve to even be a parent!!! What chance does that child have in life when at such a young age she is being led down that path on the proviso that it is ok. May I suggest reporting him to the social services/child welfare people?
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| Jul 22, 2006 @ 5:05 PM |
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Cidronlvnv
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reminds me of when i was a kid, oh, about 5th grade. We went on vacation to Yellowstone/Grand Teton area. I did my best shoplifting, stealing a small box of polished stones. Hey, They looked good and all. Managed to get them back to the room, then back home. Mom, about a week later puttin away my clothes from laundry noticed them in my dresser drawer. Asked me about them and all. Well, after a discussion (not a yelling fest), she had me sit at the table and write a letter (before computers and word processors) to the gift shop apologizing and all. She sent the rocks and the letter back to them. About two weeks later, in the mail, there was the same box, with a letter from them saying that it was ok. My honesty when cought and all that stuff should be rewarded.
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| Jul 22, 2006 @ 5:15 PM |
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SunBabe
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Reminds me of an "incident" when my son was 4 or 5 years old...I saw him slip a pack of gum into his pocket. I made him go to the counter and tell the store owner what he did and to tell him he's sorry and won't ever steal again. (the usual "Mom-encouragements/reinforcements"  )
I hit the ceiling when the owner said "It's OK, keep it"  
I lit into StorekeeperBob with both barrels -- "What the heck kind of thinking is THAT? Etc, etc, etc" 
Needless to say, my son never stole another thing the rest of his life (~ahem~ I may have intimidated him a bit by my memorable outburst  ) ...and he's now in Federal Law Enforcement  ...MrStraight-As-An-Arrow -- almost embarassingly so 
And 10 years later, when StorekeeperBob hired my son to work for him, he reminded me of the lesson I taught HIM.
~grin~ Later on, Bob became a dad. I've always wondered if he's applied the lessons HE learned at his store to his own kids. Bet he did.  (he was very young and naive, before )
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| Jul 22, 2006 @ 5:43 PM |
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jamminjerry
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there is wisdom, now if we can just git past the emotes! oops!
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| Jul 22, 2006 @ 6:52 PM |
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LSU79
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May I suggest reporting him to the social services/child welfare people?
Not only that, allowing your child to commit a crime in your presence is usually illegal, and he could go to jail for it.
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| Jul 22, 2006 @ 7:08 PM |
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Cidronlvnv
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the word i believe you are looking for is "Accessory" or "Accomplice" to the crime. It is generally equally punishable by law as the actual person committing the crime. I see shoplifting all the time, and generally, we (the shift I work) have it locked down pretty good, but the other shifts generally dont give a care. The stuff stolen is minor, thus not worth it. The company policy says "let them go if they are out of the store" and the employees dont even look around as a deterant inside the store, caring only for the thing right in front of them. Makes me mad that we (our shift) does something, yet they (other shifts) dont. Dunno how many times I have seen empty containers torn open when I come on to shift. Usually its condoms too! Makes me wanna go down the condom area and stick all the boxes with a hatpin!! There, Steal that.. See if it works now!
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| Jul 22, 2006 @ 7:12 PM |
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Dovestreasure
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I have seriously considered reporting him and alerting the shop as well where this has taken place. This man has no business being a custodial parent , his child was taken from her mother and put in foster care . The dad had pending charges against him and it took years to clear his name. He perhaps was the lesser of two evil as far as the courts were concerned. The courts in their efforts to return children to a biological parent in their best interests sometimes goes wrong. I am pretty sure he loves this child but his parenting skills are unfit.
Please do not poke holes in the condoms, perhaps in a indirect way your store may help prevent fools such as the one I mentioned from fathering a child.
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| Dec 28, 2007 @ 3:56 AM |
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Sweetheart83446
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I was in the grocery store last week or the week before, I don’t remember, but, my son and I were in the checkout lane when he asks me if he can get some chap stick. I told him “No, you already have some at home.” The line keeps moving and it is now my turn to pay, as I look at my son behind me, he says” Well, I’m just going to get it anyway,” and throws it in his pocket.
No one saw, but I was still embarrassed and had a loooooooong talk with him about stealing and police officers.
I don’t think kids that young fully understand what they are doing and the consequences and repercussions of their actions, learning, Is part of growing up.
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| Dec 29, 2007 @ 8:43 PM |
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blueyes101
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My first job was bagging groceries at the local store, more than once I saw a kid put gum/candy in his pocket as mom was writing the check... Every time all it took was a " my look " and it was put back, a simple nod, and a huge smile from me, took the kid who was afraid he was about to get in trouble, to a huge smile back, thankful for the outcome... A few times in my life I wondered if something so simple really " took " and they realized what may have happened if they didn't put it back.
I also was the first person a mom walked up to if a kid suddenly was chewing gum she didn't buy on their ride home.... I never brought it to the managers attention, I simply gave the same " look " and asked if they learned their lesson, saying I would hate to send the kid to prison for stealing gum, then I got the wink from mom....... and the poor kid had a long ride home, and a sore bottom to boot.
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| Dec 29, 2007 @ 10:17 PM |
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pamdemonium
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Yeah....I'll bet your angry face was enough to scare the kids. 
The Enforcer.
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| Dec 30, 2007 @ 10:07 AM |
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Brass_Wolf
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Perhaps the father in the story had aspirations of his child one day becoming a lawyer? Seriously though, wrong is wrong.
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| Dec 30, 2007 @ 10:29 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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lol
or his father WAS a lawyer.
You cant teach what you dont know youreself.
You cant teach morals if you have none.
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| Dec 30, 2007 @ 11:44 AM |
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Loreli
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Both of my boys worked in a grocery store. After each holiday they would bring 4 or 5 grocery sacks of candy, cookies, other "holiday" stuff home. The first time they did it, I told them "What a waste of your money". They said it was after clearance, and free for employees. I said fine, I'm calling your boss. They said go ahead, and I did. They were telling the truth, as it was stuff they would throw away.
Unfortunately, they were young, and that put bad ideas in their head, and shortly after each lost their job for taking food items NOT on clearance. Both quite upset-they loved that job. They were lucky no charges were filed, but the hurt they suffered from losing a job they loved was probably a bigger lesson.
I just wish the store would have charged them SOMETHING-a dime even- to further instill "You earn what you get."
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| Dec 31, 2007 @ 7:42 PM |
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Jankia
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Years ago right after my divorce when my kids were little we were leaving a store when security stopped us.Turns out both of them had picked up "free' stuff.He pulled me aside and told me he wouldnt make a big deal out of it,I was a frequent customer.
I told him to call the police and have them meet us in your office and he did.I wanted them to see a police officer.Never had the problem again.
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