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Danger
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i am sooo happy with how these gas prices are finally going down. i think i may even fill up the van and be able to pay $50 to top it off! 
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:05 PM |
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Snappygoddess
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I am with you Danger.. not sure how long it will last, but going to enjoy it while it lasts.
I paid $2.15 a gal today..
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:06 PM |
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spongebob777
Posts: 7,904
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$2.23 here today but it's a heck of a lot better than the $3.10 I paid a couple of weeks ago.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:21 PM |
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tyrannyforyou
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2.389 here is the cheapest. still better than the 2.999 we paid a month ago
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:27 PM |
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SunBabe
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WHAT??? Gas prices went DOWN? I just paid $3+ earlier this week  15 gallons, a FULL TANK! 
...shoot, I may have to drive somewhere so I can take advantage of the bargains!  Let's see -- I bought a tank in February, one at the end of April, one in the beginning of July and one this week. I think I've earned the chance to spluge on a road trip -- IF I had anywhere I wanted to go 
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:30 PM |
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MotownManiax
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 Just remember, what goes down usually goes back up. 
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:32 PM |
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tyrannyforyou
Posts: 3,066
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true- but not until march or april hopefully.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:33 PM |
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spongebob777
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Let's see -- I bought a tank in February, one at the end of April, one in the beginning of July and one this week.
Sounds like me, I'm not a wastefull person. Guess that makes me more of a traditional conservative.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:43 PM |
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Silvertongue62
Posts: 6,932
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Just remember, what goes down usually goes back up.
Mo is right !!!
Gas will slowly come down as long as it makes the presidents approval rating better in a hope to save the upcoming election from republicans.
Sounds like me, I'm not a wastefull person. Guess that makes me more of a traditional conservative.
I am not a wasteful person either but unlike sponge i dont consider myself a conservative. The reality is I am conservative on some things and liberal on others. Then there are those things where I am in the middle.
So enjoy the gas prices while you can because they wont last.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:45 PM |
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spongebob777
Posts: 7,904
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Funny thing is that my most conservative ideals get me labled a liberal by most modern conservatives.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:45 PM |
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SunBabe
Posts: 12,279
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hehehe...you'd be surprised at how conservative I am...for (also) being labelled a liberal 
Mostly I'm just cheap.
(as opposed to just plain "practical")
And an avowed hermit.
Simplifies life that way
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:49 PM |
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Silvertongue62
Posts: 6,932
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Simplifies life that way
Thats it babe..............
Keep it simple
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 6:57 PM |
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spongebob777
Posts: 7,904
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Mostly I'm just cheap.
(as opposed to just plain "practical")
Yup. I grew up in a tiny town surrounded by old folks who endured two world wars and didn't tolerate waste.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 7:15 PM |
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MotownManiax
Posts: 9,737
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Before the prices go back up I'm switching to an alternative fuel....wonder why it hasn't gotten any attention?
 
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 7:56 PM |
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Silvertongue62
Posts: 6,932
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Because it cost just as much to produce if not more for some alternative fuels. The other reason is there are not an abundance of refilling stations for alternative fuels. But keep in mind replacing one evil with another isnt what i would consider good policy. Realizing fuel is still relatively cheap. it is the taxes that are put on the fuel that makes it so high. The next time you are at the pump read the taxing label carefully and you will see that the taxes on fuel are more than the fuel itself.
"If we could only get those politicians out of our pockets"
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 7:58 PM |
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tyrannyforyou
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it is around 45 cents in taxes here in west virginia for it- and they want to increase it.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 8:27 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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After crude oil costs, taxes are the second largest contributor to the price paid at the pump. Together Federal and State excise taxes on fuel account for an average cost of approximately 62 cents per gallon. Note: Federal tax of 18.4 cents/gallon is not included in the rates listed below.
State Gasoline
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Alabama 18.3 19.3 Inc. 2 cpg inspection fee and 0.3 cpg UST Tax. Cities may add upto 5 cpg additional.
Alaska 8 8 Additional taxes on marine and aviation fuel.
Arizona 19 19 Inc. 1 cpg UST Tax. Vehicle over 26,000lb GW must pay an additional 9 cpg on diesel.
Arkansas 21.7 22.7 Inc. 0.2 cpg UST Tax.
California 26.2 24.7 Inc. 1.2 cpg UST Tax. Inc. sales taxes of 7 cpg gasoline and 5.5 cpg diesel. Local sales taxes not inc.
Colorado 22 20.5
Connecticut 25 26 Excludes 5% tax at wholesale level.
Delaware 23 22
Dist. of Columbia 20 20
Florida 16.3 28.9 Plus local taxes of 5.5 to 17 cpg. Inc pollution tax of 2.2 cpg.
Georgia 7.5 7.5 Additional sales tax of 4%.
Hawaii 16.1 16.1 Additional general sales tax of 4.166%. Additional local county taxes: 18 cpg Maui, 16.5 cpg Honolulu, 13 cpg Kauai, 8.8 cpg Hawaii
Idaho 25 25
Illinois 19 21.5 Additional local taxes of 5 cpg in Chicago and 6 cents in Cook county on gasoline only. Commercial vehicles pay additional 6.3 cpg on gasoline and 6.0 cpg on diesel.
Indiana 18 19 Additional sales tax of 6%. Surcharge of 11 cpg on diesel for commercial vehicles.
Iowa 21.3 23.5 Inc. 1 cpg UST Tax. Ethanol blended gasoline rate is 20 cpg.
Kansas 25 27 Inc 1 cpg environmental fees.
Kentucky 16.4 13.4 Tax rate is variable and is calculated quarterly on the wholesale gasoline prices. Listed rate includes 1.4 cpg UST Tax. Plus surcharge for commercial vehicles of 2.2cpg on gasoline and 5.3cpg on diesel.
Louisiana 20 20
Maine 24.6 25.7 Additional 1-2 cpg for water fund.
Maryland 23.5 24.25
Massachusetts 23.5 23.5 Inc. 2.5 cpg UST Tax
Michigan 19.875 15.875 Inc. 0.875 cpg UST Tax. Plus additional 6% sales tax.
Minnesota 22 22 Inc 2 cpg UST Tax
Mississippi 18.4 18.4 Inc 0.4 cpg UST Tax. Additional 3 cpg Seawall tax in some counties.
Missouri 17 17
Montana 27.75 28.5 Inc 0.75 State environmental tax
Nebraska 25.5 24.9 Rate variable. Inc release prevention fee.
Nevada 23 27 Addition local taxes of 1.75 to 9.75 cpg
New Hampshire 20.6 20.6 Inc 2.6 cpg UST Tax.
New Jersey 14.5 17.5
New Mexico 18 19 Inc 1 cpg loading fees.
New York 22.6 20.85 Inc. Petroleum Business Tax = 14 cpg gas, 12.25 cpg diesel. Additonal sales taxes apply (Approx 10 cpg).
North Carolina 24.2 24.2 Rate adjusted quarterly based on 17.5 cents + 7% of wholesale price.
North Dakota 21 21
Ohio 24 24 Commercial vehicles pay additional 3 cpg on diesel.
Oklahoma 17 14 Inc 1 cpg UST tax.
Oregon 24 24
Pennsylvania 25.9 30.8 Price includes oil franchise tax 13.9 cpg gasoline and 18.8 cpg diesel. Additional 1 cpg for fuel stored in UST.
Rhode Island 31 31 Inc 1 cpg UST tax.
South Carolina 16.75 16.75 Inc 0.5 cpg UST tax and 0.25 cpg inspection fee.
South Dakota 24 24 Inc 2 cpg charged at distribution level.
Tennessee 21.4 18.4 Inc 1 cpg special petroleum tax and .4 cpg environmental fee.
Texas 20 20
Utah 24.5 24.5
Vermont 20 26 Inc 1 cpg petroleum cleanup fee.
Virginia 18.1 16.6 Inc 0.6 cpg petroleum storage tank fees. Excludes 2% sales tax in some areas.
Washington 28 28
West Virginia 20.5 20.5 Plus 5% state sales tax.
Wisconsin 31.1 25.1 Inc 3 cpg inspection fee.
Wyoming 15 15 Inc 1 cpg UST Tax.
This doesnt include federal tax !
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 8:33 PM |
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MotownManiax
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Agree Silver. Any alternative fuel is only temporary, and like you said, some simply aren't cost effective to produce. But oil is finite; it will eventually end. I know people think reserves are unlimited but peak production has already been about reached in the huge oil fields of the Middle East. North American peak was reached years ago and the production decline has already started.
There's an amazing book out that examines the coming crisis in much better detail, and I recommend anyone that's interested to pick it up. You may not agree with everything, but it's certainly thought-provoking.
The Long Emergency: Surviving the Converging Catastrophes of the Twenty-First Century Amazon Link
From Publishers Weekly
The indictment of suburbia and the car culture that the author presented in The Geography of Nowhere turns apocalyptic in this vigorous, if overwrought, jeremiad. Kunstler notes signs that global oil production has peaked and will soon dwindle, and argues in an eye-opening, although not entirely convincing, analysis that alternative energy sources cannot fill the gap, especially in transportation. The result will be a Dark Age in which "the center does not hold" and "all bets are off about civilization's future." Absent cheap oil, auto-dependent suburbs and big cities will collapse, along with industry and mechanized agriculture; serfdom and horse-drawn carts will stage a comeback; hunger will cause massive "die-back"; otherwise "impotent" governments will engineer "designer viruses" to cull the surplus population; and Asian pirates will plunder California. Kunstler takes a grim satisfaction in this prospect, which promises to settle his many grudges against modernity. A "dazed and crippled America," he hopes, will regroup around walkable, human-scale towns; organic local economies of small farmers and tradesmen will replace an alienating corporate globalism; strong bonds of social solidarity will be reforged; and our heedless, childish culture of consumerism will be forced to grow up. Kunstler's critique of contemporary society is caustic and scintillating as usual, but his prognostications strain credibility.
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 8:45 PM |
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johnw_6
Posts: 194
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non of you are living/ recently been to the UK -- otherwise you wouldn't be complaining about the U.S. cost. 
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| Sep 16, 2006 @ 8:53 PM |
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Silvertongue62
Posts: 6,932
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I spend alot of time in europe and the gasoline is much higher there.
politics is a b_tch isnt?
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