| Jan 5, 2007 @ 3:20 PM |
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Thor1960303
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Love him or hate him, he sure hits the nail on the head with this! To anyone with kids of any age, here's some advice.
Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a High School about 11 things they did not and will not learn in school. He talks about how feel-good, politically correct teachings created a generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in the real world.
Rule 1: Life is not fair - get used to it!
Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.
Rule 3 : You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.
Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.
Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your
Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping: they called it opportunity.
Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.
Rule 7 : Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you thought you were. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.
Rule 8 : Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
Rule 9 : Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF. Do that on your own time.
Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually
Have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.
Rule 11 : Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 3:23 PM |
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jamie95622
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bravo bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this begins at home ,, we do indeed insulate our children from the real world and then let them go out with out a clue to how things really work! school is just an extension of the same principal..that is spot on! 
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 4:22 PM |
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kattsmeow
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I have read this before and still chuckle.
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 4:52 PM |
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T_i_m
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In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer.
I hope that does not apply to multiple choice exams.
[Edited on 1/5/2007 4:53 PM]
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 4:54 PM |
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wiccked
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 5:02 PM |
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spongebob777
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PC is the single most destructive thing to ever happen to this country. Nothing is more sickening than creating a population incapable of coping.
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 6:09 PM |
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sealacamp
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,,what can the mods do,, this is what i look like,,,i am not responsible if i resemble someone else
That's funny because I could have sworn you just said that is not your picture, now you say it is. Hmmm very strange indeed.
Glad to know someone like Bill is grounded in reality. More people in school not only need to hear this sort of thing they need to go out and live some of it before they hit the real work place. Then maybe, just maybe, they will be prepared.
I like rule one because not only is it true it is one that some people never get. It took me a long time to get it myself. Life is indeed not fair.
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 6:26 PM |
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Captpappy
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I'm amazed!
A thread originally posted to enlighten readers about (or at least call attention to) the disturbing trend in our society to raise a generation of un-prepared, un-educated candidates for the already over burdened and over abused federal welfare program ... and it turns into a slanderous bitch session about a persons profile picture!!!!!! 
Seems to me that #12 in the original post should be the failure to teach our ?children? basic manners and politeness, the ability to effectually interact socially, and the skills necessary to concentrate on the subject at hand.
[Edited on 1/5/2007 7:15 PM]
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 6:44 PM |
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Nette_TN
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Being in the educational field, my favorite is rule #4... "If you think your teacher is tough, wait until you get a boss."
I've read many personal articles regarding Bill Gates. My admiration for him is one of the highest I have for people of my generation.
He's not "all talk" either. Besides giving to many charities, he's stated "for the public to know", that his children will not receive millions in trust, or inheritance.
I honestly don't know if I could do the same if I had his earnings. I do however, admire him for his thinking. And, he is and will be regarded an American icon, not only for his innovations, but for his integrity as well.
America should be proud.
Great post, Thor... thank you.
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| Jan 5, 2007 @ 8:50 PM |
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BandTMom
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PC is the single most destructive thing to ever happen to this country. Nothing is more sickening than creating a population incapable of coping
So true, Spongy! You get the award for profound words of the day!
The only PC I am is Pretty Crude!  
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 12:08 AM |
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ToucherinSparks
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Being in the educational field, my favorite is rule #4... "If you think your teacher is tough, wait until you get a boss."
I work in education as well, at a state university, and seeing how some of these "oh so special" young adults act is enough to make you puke. So many kids now have a sense of entitlement given by their parents. They think everything and everybody revolves around making them happy and comfortable. We have a lot of student employees, and you should hear some of the whine sessions about how the work is "too hard", or they want days off to "hang out", or work is interfering with their social life (gee, ya think?) and so on.
This is a fairly modern phenomena, given rise by the long enforced childhood that society has deemed necessary for today's young adults. All through history, at least until the early 20th century, young people became adults around the time of puberty. They were expected to work, and many were married and raising families of their own before they were 20. It has really only been since the end of WWII that teens have been treated as children. And each subsequent generation since then has extended the long childhood so that now you have 25-30 year olds still acting like they are in high school, living with their parents, working part time entry level jobs, and focusing on just hanging out with friends.
To paraphrase Pogo, we have met the enemy and he is us. Us because we are the people who allow and actually encourage this slacker behavior.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 2:29 AM |
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Captpappy
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I'm not a teacher in the strictest of sense but part of my job is to teach new sailors how to be good sailors.
In my work there is time to work and plenty of time to play. I like to throw a fishing line as much as the next man ... and do so when I can!
As captain, I understand the necessity of play to increase one's productivity during work especially when being confined to a space 150 feet by 35 feet for 28 days, but like ToucherinSparks I find that most young people feel that work is only ok if it doesn't interfere with play and cell phone time. I keep waiting for these youngsters to get the hint that when it's time to work ... IT'S TIME TO WORK ... and that cell phones and play (personal) time is a privilege that must be earned. I have fired those who could not get this through their purple died and pierced heads! (to the TOTAL amazement of the person being fired!)
I see nothing wrong with encouraging a child to set their goals high; that anything can be achieved if one sets their minds to it. What is wrong is NOT teaching that child that between the setting of a goal and seeing it's achievement is a LOT OF TIME AND HARD WORK and must be measured in small increases in knowledge and experience - a step at a time!
My job only came after many years of handling lines, swabbing and painting decks, sweating in the engine room rebuilding some finicky Detroit diesel motor, cleaning dishes in the galley, swabbing more decks, etc, and I could not have passed the test for a Master's license without that time and experience. (and I knew that fact when I started down this career path!) ... oh, and a lot of studying, too! Things like navigation, meteorology, Federal laws and regulations, and physics and geometry as it applies to naval architecture!
Why do we teach our children to dream lofty dreams but to fear and admonish or ignore the hard and sometimes dirty work necessary to achieve those dreams? Are we afraid we will scare them away from "working" their way through the ranks and so become bums in the park? When they finally leave school and get an unfamiliar taste of the real world and it's hurdles, guess where they'll end up anyway ... or worse!
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 2:58 AM |
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HiddenIdentity
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We have a lot of student employees, and you should hear some of the whine sessions about how the work is "too hard",
I whine at work too (I'm 19), but that's because work was cutting into my education. I was a College student and thought that I could do both full-time school and full-time work at the same time.  40 hours of work and 40 hours of school almost drove me crazy.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 3:20 AM |
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DawolfLover
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Welcome to the "It's not your fault" generations. Parents have gotten softer and softer on their kids over the years and look at what it's turning out. A bunch of whining 20-somethings that think a little hard work is going to outright kill them. Because they won't have enough energy to go "clubbing" after work. So they quit their job and expect to get some sort of welfare from the government because they think the government should support them while they go through this "rough patch" in their lives. What they don't realize is that their "rough patch" was what older generations considered a good day, because there's help out there for people in REAL need. Try living before food stamps and government assistance, when you actually had to make your own damn living. I think I might puke the next time I see a person pull a state benefit card out of a designer purse/wallet.
If you didn't catch the drift, PC education is the biggest crock of **** to ever come about. I can't even imagine what it's going to be like in 15 years. A lot of the older, wiser, harder-working generations will be gone and the PC's will start to take control. It's going to be mass chaos.
LOL btw, i'm from the generations listed above and yes, sometimes I whine about my job. But it gets done, end of story.
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 4:18 AM |
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Captpappy
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HiddenIdentity;
I understand your plight but this common mistake comes from wanting to achieve too much, too soon! One must determine if a simple roof over ones head and food in the belly is enough to get through four years of collage; or if cell phones and cars, nice apartments and an active social life are more important - in which case the education must take a back seat to work and come more slowly. Not driving a Mercedes before you are 22 doesn't mean you won't by 35, but one must learn patience along with everything else. "Very strong are you - but much you need to learn, young one ..."
Don't get me wrong. I truly admire and commend you that you are working your way through school. Your education will mean so much more to you if you "earn" it yourself, but please don't burn yourself out before you get started and have priorities straight before you continue. You can actually damage your health (physical and mental) by trying to do so much so quickly!
DawolfLover:
Of course, lumping everyone of a particular age into one set group of people is unfair to those who do not share the views and attitudes of their compatriots.
Hopefully the ones we speak of here will see the success of people such as yourself and the result of the attitude towards work as you have, and realize the errors in their thinking.
I think EVERYONE wines about their job at sometime, but your final comment makes the difference between a successful person and a bum in the park! Maintain that work ethic and you will be a sought after man - a true gem among the fodder!
[Edited on 1/6/2007 4:32 AM]
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 9:36 AM |
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Thanglhrly
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I see nothing wrong with encouraging a child to set their goals high; that anything can be achieved if one sets their minds to it. What is wrong is NOT teaching that child that between the setting of a goal and seeing it's achievement is a LOT OF TIME AND HARD WORK and must be measured in small increases in knowledge and experience - a step at a time
Very well stated, Captpappy!
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| Jan 6, 2007 @ 2:39 PM |
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Nette_TN
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Ditto with Thang!...
CaptPappy, your ensight and well written life lessons should be added to the end of Bill Gates' beliefs, and a mainstay of reading for every young adult.
--Nette
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