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newlife2006
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I have a dream of starting charitable non-profit organization ( Apparently , Freud would have called it : "Mother Teresa envy"...  )
Any advice and experience sharing on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 10:17 PM |
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MarysPlace
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Like I said before... Why would anyone want to work without a profit?
Yours truly,
Capitali$t Piglet
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 10:34 PM |
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definitelydi
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 10:35 PM |
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sciurusniger
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( ... gives Mary and Di the evil eye .... )
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It's not that hard. At least it wasn't for me. My IRS agent helped me a great deal, in fact.
What kind of things do you want to know?
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 10:38 PM |
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Pete73052
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The IRS has also helped me to be non-profit... several years in a row now. 
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 10:43 PM |
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wiccked
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I R S????????? Can you say "poor house" ???????
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 10:49 PM |
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newlife2006
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Thanks, sciurusniger.
I'm being discouraged by some of my friends - they warn me about tough competition in this field. I don't expect it to be easy, but is this really that hopeless?
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 11:05 PM |
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MarysPlace
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they warn me about tough competition in this field.
Competition? COMPETITION?
What are you competing in? Who's gonna make more of not profit? How do you know who wins when none of you make any profit?
I don't get it!
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 11:08 PM |
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Pete73052
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Mary, you're funny... 
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 11:15 PM |
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newlife2006
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[/QUOTE]MarysPlace
Why would anyone want to work without a profit?[QUOTE]
You should try it sometime, MarysPlace, you'll love it.... 
In fact - you'll be getting much more in response to your work if people know you are not doing it in order to profit on their needs /suffering. You'll get gratitude ,love, respect and admiration. Just like a wife is getting more ( even moneywise, not to mention everything else ) from a man than a whore gets ( profit and hatred ...that's it...  )
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 11:39 PM |
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beckyiv42000
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You'll get gratitude ,love, respect and admiration
sorry this just sounds like its all about LOOK AT ME here .. look at how WONDERFUL I am because im not being paid to do this... truly NOT an ADMIRABLE trait JMHO people who work for charity or volunteer do it not for FAME or admiration but for those they help... no thanks or accolades needed 
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 1:33 AM |
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JustFrank
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Check the Secretary of State web site for info. One of the first things to do is set up a not for profit corporation and get a federal ID number, then a state ID number. Just because an organization is non-profit, does not mean those managing or working for it are not paid. It only means that after operating expenses and payroll are met, any remaining funds must be turned back into charitable use or expansion of the organization. The CEO's and other upper management personnel of some large NFP organizations are making six figure incomes. Hope this is helpful. I can't provide more detail since the corporation I set up is a Class "C", or full for profit corporation. Frank R. President/CEO, Chiron Agency, Inc.; A Private Investigation Organization.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 1:53 AM |
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willsmalto
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Like I said before... Why would anyone want to work without a profit?
cos of the satisfaction/happiness gotten just by doing that. been there, done it and had a big cake out of it as well. simply, it's fun. fun and happiness get along, don't they?
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 6:56 AM |
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sciurusniger
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It's not about "look at me". It's about having the ability to raise monies to do something that most people expect to be done for free.
As a licensed wildlife rehabilitator, I must hold a permit, but we receive NO FUNDS from anyone to care for animals caught up in the destructive behaviors of humans. Everything I do is paid for out of my own pocket: food, caging, and medical care, continuing education, putting on public educational programs; and those bills add up quickly. These animals require specialized everything in order to be successfully sent on their natural way and, believe me, none of it is cheap.
By being a federal 501(c)(3) I am allowed to actively solicite donations but trust me, at the end of the year I don't even come close to breaking even. It simply helps me to do perhaps a bit more than I could do otherwise.
And interestingly enough, the most generous doners are those who have the least.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 7:05 AM |
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uab_5
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"Non-profit" doesn't mean "unpaid".
It means after all expenses are paid out, including salaries, sum of revenue = sum of expenses.
I.e. The U.S. government is the world's largest "non-profit" organization.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 8:59 AM |
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MarysPlace
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You should try it sometime, MarysPlace, you'll love it....
In fact - you'll be getting much more in response to your work if people know you are not doing it in order to profit on their needs /suffering. You'll get gratitude ,love, respect and admiration. Just like a wife is getting more ( even moneywise, not to mention everything else ) from a man than a whore gets ( profit and hatred ...that's it...
Gee, honey I'm sorry for being a profit whore. I'm a single mom, so I got a kid to feed, very expensive rent to pay, save up for college and all that kinda meaningless crap.
Gratitude, love, respect and admiration? Sure I get it from Ben Franklin just fine.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 9:17 AM |
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acslim
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my momz works for a non-profit that raises money for a certain pro-US middle-eastern country. She gets paid pretty good i think, and she seems to like her job for once.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 10:28 AM |
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MusicMonster
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It's very true that some who work for Non-Profits are extremely well paid. Some well into 6 figures and sometimes more.
I.e. one former head of the Red Cross bought himself a villa in the Bahamas. Of course he was known to be skimming from the till! But he also had a very large salary. So the classification of the organization doesn't really mean that much in terms of individual income. That only means that's how their overall operation functions. It's often not unlike working for a traditional business.
On the other hand, many non-profits, like Sci for example, in this case, do sacrifice dearly to support what they believe in.
-MM
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 10:42 AM |
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MarysPlace
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On the other hand, many non-profits, like Sci for example, in this case, do sacrifice dearly to support what they believe in.
That's great of Sci.
But it's much easier to sacrifice if you don't have kids. Somehow I don't see myself giving away my son's college money to homeless people or squirrels.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 11:00 AM |
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MusicMonster
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Very true Mary. One can only do what one can only do. And we have to tend our own fields first and foremost. (or concrete as the case may be - sorry). 
Yet if you took a job for a Non-Profit, or helped organize a new one, that doesn't mean you wouldn't be well paid for what you did. You may be very well paid. That was my primary point. That doesn't automatically mean anyone is working for free.
-MM 
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