| Apr 30, 2007 @ 8:21 PM |
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Pete73052
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 While you may certainly be ignorant, it's definitely not because you're from the south (send your complaints to Larry the Cable Guy).  I agree, this too is a problem... all stereotyping is. Fat people are stereotyped as lazy or slovenly, gay people are stereotyped as flamboyant and oversexed (OK, well some stereotypes fit  ). Some stereotypes are nicer than others - LJ brought one up - who wouldn't want to be stereotyped as having heavy equipment? South American women are stereotyped as "hot blooded" and sexy... British women, just the opposite. I'm of Greek ancestry - so I hear some comments regarding my bizzare sexual preferences (again, some stereotypes fit   ). I don't have as much of a problem with stereotyping if it's done in humor, BTW - I like watching Carlos Mencia - but when I hear racial stereotyping that is hate-based... 
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 8:29 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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Well, if we're gonna start on regional stereotypes, I'm from Noo Yawk, so obviously I have to be a mean-spirited, inconsiderate, rude, bullying b**tch on wheels.
Hmm..... 
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 8:38 PM |
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Pete73052
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You're from Noo Yawk... 
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 8:39 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I'm..
German, I have an extremely bad temper
Saudi, I'm a terrorist, and sexually repressed
Italian, I have a bad temper, I talk too much, I talk with my hands, and I eat too much
British, I need to see a dentist
Basically, I'm not a terrorist, i'm not sexually repressed, and I don't need to see a dentist. But the rest is true 
I don't think it has anything to do with my ethnic background, though.
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 8:41 PM |
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MarysPlace
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Well, if we're gonna start on regional stereotypes, I'm from Noo Yawk, so obviously I have to be a mean-spirited, inconsiderate, rude, bullying b**tch on wheels.
You're not? I'm not? 
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 8:43 PM |
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Pete73052
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Boy, I never thought I'd ever say Mary is... um... stereotypical...
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 8:44 PM |
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MarysPlace
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*whew* My rep is intact!
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 9:57 PM |
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RhodeRhunner
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I'm..
German, I have an extremely bad temper
Saudi, I'm a terrorist, and sexually repressed
Italian, I have a bad temper, I talk too much, I talk with my hands, and I eat too much
British, I need to see a dentist
Damn, LGQ. You got issues!
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 10:12 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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bullying b**tch on wheels.
Yeah, but only when you're skating.
Me? 
When it's called for... 
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 10:12 PM |
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RhodeRhunner
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Straying a bit, from the "Racial stereotype", to a similar train of thought; being from the South, quite often Southerners are stereotyped. A clear example of this would be from a television news report, I watched a couple of years ago. Apparently, a large number of people entering various professional fields ran into a certain amount of stereotyping. Based upon the information they provided, their southern accents were detrimental in their employment searches. From what they reported, many employers looked at having a southern accent as being somewhat uneducated and slow. I beg to differ!! I may speak with a southern drawl, but I am in no way "Ignorant"!!!(JMO)
That's so interesting, Thange. I, too, am from the south. And sometimes it's comical to see the looks on people's faces when they learn that I am. Some have said that it's hard to believe because I don't have a southern accent. (Of course, my mind shifts into interpretation mode and it translates into, "Well damn. You have all your teeth, you aren't wearing a plaid flannel shirt and suspenders, you're not wearing a CAT Diesel Power cap and you aren't carrying around pictures of your cousin.. I mean, wife, in your wallet." Hehe.. I crack me up! Seriously, that's just another case of people who get their images of others from the masses and the media. And I firmly believe that many people who don't know better because they have not had the opportunity (or misfortune, depending on your point of view) to interact with those from other races, ethnicities, religions, sexual prefs, etc., genuinely embrace those who are different. At least, that has been my experience more often than not. And I do know that I'm probably fortunate in that respect. For me, I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until I learn otherwise. Sure, I have my prejudices and "opinions". But I feel that those who will acknowledge that they aren't perfect do a much better job at trying to improve.
Of course, if I met a German, Saudi, Italian, British woman going through PMS... well, that would be some scary shit!
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 10:18 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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you're not wearing a CAT Diesel Power cap
Don't you go picking on my CAT cap!!  (j/k, honest, but I've got all KINDS of Cat gear)
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 10:45 PM |
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signme
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Hmmmmmmm no Cat hat here, but lots of cats. Will that count? Or does that automatically turn me into the neighborhood crazy cat lady? Talk about stereotypes! 
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 11:07 PM |
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BandTMom
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Try being from Oklahoma!
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 11:18 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Of course, if I met a German, Saudi, Italian, British woman going through PMS... well, that would be some scary shit!
that's what my Japanese girlfriend says
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| Apr 30, 2007 @ 11:24 PM |
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signme
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Well Mom, Texans get stereotyped too. No we do not all own oil wells, no we do not all wear cowboy hats and boots, no we do not all ride horses and no we do not all country dance!
SO THERE!
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| May 1, 2007 @ 10:27 AM |
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juzhey
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Thangel – “From what they reported, many employers looked at having a southern accent as being somewhat uneducated and slow.”
When I was in broadcasting, I was taught that even the southern stations don’t want people with southern accents on the air.
Pete – To me it seems like you are going back and forth.
“gay people are stereotyped as flamboyant and oversexed (OK, well some stereotypes fit ).” Another tongue in cheek? Beware, lots won’t get your “intent”. I wasn’t sure about that last one. Especially the “grammar nazi” remark, or have you never heard rap music, much less the way that “crowd” talks? Not exactly a foreign language, but definitely not English either. I think that “crowd” perpetuates a stereotype, mainly one of ignorance and violence, regarding those who record or listen to it.
And…” I'm of Greek ancestry - so I hear some comments regarding my bizzare sexual preferences (again, some stereotypes fit ).” Was very offensive to this person of Greek ancestry. Naw, not going to go make a sign and picket your house or anything LOL, just pointing out that you are throwing around a lot of what would be called racist remarks yourself.
“I don't have as much of a problem with stereotyping if it's done in humor, BTW - I like watching Carlos Mencia - but when I hear racial stereotyping that is hate-based... ”
But you still have the problem with a lot of people thinking it isn’t funny, and it IS still racial slamming. A lot of “jokes” are just veiled hate.
Lip – “Italian, I have a bad temper, I talk too much, I talk with my hands, and I eat too much” I must really suck at this game LOL I would have thought the stereotype of Italians was handsome men, good cook and fantastic, romantic lovers. I was told that I speak with my hands because I am part French, not Italian LOL
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| May 1, 2007 @ 11:10 AM |
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Pete73052
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Pete – To me it seems like you are going back and forth.
“gay people are stereotyped as flamboyant and oversexed (OK, well some stereotypes fit ).”
Another tongue in cheek? Beware, lots won’t get your “intent”.
I trust most people here know me well enough to get this. Part of what I do for entertainment is political parody - and sometimes this particular type of humor slips into my remarks. One of the sites I participate in makes outrageous statements like the one above to point out the absurdity of them. The audience is intelligent enough to "get it".
I wasn’t sure about that last one. Especially the “grammar nazi” remark, or have you never heard rap music, much less the way that “crowd” talks? Not exactly a foreign language, but definitely not English either. I think that “crowd” perpetuates a stereotype, mainly one of ignorance and violence, regarding those who record or listen to it.
Yeah, kids shouldn't invent their own language. They should all conform to what their parents believe language should be. That would be totally groovy.
And…
” I'm of Greek ancestry - so I hear some comments regarding my bizzare sexual preferences (again, some stereotypes fit ).”
Was very offensive to this person of Greek ancestry. Naw, not going to go make a sign and picket your house or anything LOL, just pointing out that you are throwing around a lot of what would be called racist remarks yourself.
You're kidding, right? Apparently not. Appreciating our cultural differences, enjoying, even laughing at them is not racist. Racism is the promotion of one race over another, the notion that one race is superior to others. Where have I made such a claim?
“I don't have as much of a problem with stereotyping if it's done in humor, BTW - I like watching Carlos Mencia - but when I hear racial stereotyping that is hate-based... ”
But you still have the problem with a lot of people thinking it isn’t funny, and it IS still racial slamming. A lot of “jokes” are just veiled hate.
Hate is the product of fear, and fear is the product of ignorance. People who do not want people to discuss or appreciate racial differences promote ignorance. Identifying and appreciating, even finding humor in cultural difference is WAY different than racism.
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| May 1, 2007 @ 1:30 PM |
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Blondino
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tyme_gypsy
blondino writes that "stereotyping is based on prejudice, not fact". That my friend is typical liberal claptrap. It is also a non sequitur. Prejudices are as often as not based upon fact and experience. They don't just magically appear out of thin air. A total disregard of prejudices, aka "gut feelings" makes one susceptible to making the same DUMB mistake over and over and never learning from it.
That defines a liberal.
Also included in this incorrect little treatise is this delight:
A stereotype is an incorrect...Oh really? Always "incorrect"? I'd have to say that this thinking puts "lie" to the definition as given
perception of a people based on minimal experiential evidence.
So if a cop has 20 years on the street and stereotypes based on those experiences, it is both "incorrect" and "based on minimal experiential evidence"?
I never cease to be amazed at how liberals can dig themselves into a hole with brash and groundless statements. All feel-good-isms and all incorrect, unlike stereotyping
Stereotyping is therefore rightly seen as a negative way of seeing people.
And yet again another groundless statement. I like The US Marines I have worked with because I see them as honest-to God heros. Is that a "negative way of seeing people"? No, and it IS "stereotyping".
This is even true of positive stereotypes. Again, a positive stereotype is where we use a blanket expression for a whole people, i.e. all the Chinese are great at maths, all Germans are well organised or all English people are well mannered. Although the intent behind the statement is positive, it still does not reflect the truth.
Nor does this statement just proffered. so what is your point? Doesn't this statement conflict with the "negative" comment just tossed out?
And since when does "stereotyping necessarily include the word "all"?
If I believe, based upon crime statistics, that young black males are more dangerous than catholic schoolgirls, does that mean that I believe that ALL young black males are dangerous and that ALL catholic schoolgirls are, in contrast good and better-behaved than ALL young black males?
NYET!
It does mean that I'd rather have catholic schoolgirls walking down the sidewalk behind me than a group of young black males. Even Jesse Jackson agrees with that idea.
Stereotyping: an idea that is used to characterize a particular type of person or thing, or a person or thing thought to represent such an idea
Down with labels
Down with people too dulled by political correctness to READ labels. BTW, wouldn't you last comment be a stereotyping those who label?
interesting first post .. what say the MD Forum posters to the above ?
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| May 1, 2007 @ 1:53 PM |
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Pete73052
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The guy's apparently a cop who's interested in cutting through all the crap of civil rights and the constitution and getting right to the heart of the matter - that two young black males in a car is reasonable cause for suspicion that a crime is in progress. 
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| May 1, 2007 @ 2:05 PM |
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Blondino
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well he pissed me off
I am Turkish and I like Greeks ... most Turks I know do the rest is ..... hype
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