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Aug 31, 2007 @ 3:39 AM Reformation and the impact on society....    
ISSUESWOPTIONS


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You cry for reform and safer streets? Fine!

The justice system is made up of three components: police, courts, corrections. At some point there is weakness in that system. The main weakness that is being shown, exploited, and ran from is the failure of the Corrections module to do so...Correct. There is no consequences to going to jail any more. Jail is the new culb med for men, women, and gays. They should just make it Co-Ed to resolve the segregation issue. Why not? Place two life sentencees together and have them mate and raise their family..in Jail....on the tax payers. We pay for them to do nothing all day any way.

But suppose we did something different? Suppose instead of having them relax, we give all of them hard labor (rock breaking for 8 hrs) and trade learning? You can't really get into trouble if you are working, and the job market would grow stronger, and the economy would prosper. If the job market is strong, crime goes down....


What do you think?
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Aug 31, 2007 @ 10:55 AM Reformation and the impact on society....    
kattsmeow


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I think I need more coffee.

So, my opinion is, they are all lacking.

Be back this evening.
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Aug 31, 2007 @ 10:58 AM Reformation and the impact on society....    
TiNkErGrRrRrR


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Suppose instead of having them relax, we give all of them hard labor (rock breaking for 8 hrs) and trade learning?

They do take prisoners out of the jails here to work..they put them on work crews.
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Sep 1, 2007 @ 11:57 AM Reformation and the impact on society....    
Loreli


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I agree it's all of the above.
I've seen policeman drive the son of a local celebrity home when he got a DUI.
Every Judge will be an individual and make their own calls, also possibly influenced by who one is.
Yes-corrections-work them like anybody else. Not books, cable tv, gym, etc. all the time. i know that some prisons already do that, but they all should get off the leniency.
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Sep 1, 2007 @ 12:06 PM Reformation and the impact on society....    
Heaveninawildflower


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Hey, send them to learn from Sheriff Joe here in Phoenix.

Arpaio believes that inmates should be treated as harshly as legally possible to emphasize the punishment aspect of their incarceration. Thus, upon his initial election Arpaio began instituting the controversial changes for which he would later become noted.

Arpaio began to serve inmates surplus food (mainly outdated and oxidized green bologna)[1] and limited meals to twice daily. Meal costs would be reduced to 90 cents per day; as of 2007 Arpaio states that he has managed to reduce costs to 30 cents per day. Certain food items were banned from the county jail, mainly coffee (which also reduced 'coffee attacks' on guards), but later salt and pepper were removed from the jail (at a purported taxpayer savings of $20,000/year).

Arpaio banned smoking in the county jail. He also removed pornographic magazines (the ban was later upheld in court) and weightlifting equipment. Entertainment was limited to G-rated movies; the cable TV system (mandated by court order) was severely blocked by Arpaio to limit viewing to those stations Arpaio deems to be "educational", mainly Animal Planet, Disney Channel, The Weather Channel, A&E, CNN, and the local government access channel.

Arpaio also instituted a program for inmates to study while in jail and to try to recover from drug abuse. Hard Knocks High states to be the only approved high school program in any American jail. Another jail program, called ALPHA, is aimed solely at getting inmates away from drug abuse.

In October 2005, Arpaio started mandatory 2-week English classes for non-English-speaking inmates at his jails. Classes last 2 hours a day. The curriculum comprises the three branches of government, how a bill becomes law, state government, law enforcement and court services, and jailhouse "situational" terminology. At the end of the 2-week course, inmates are required to take a test to see how well they have learned about American government, the words to God Bless America, and the communication of health and safety needs. In response to critics, Arpaio responsed, "These inmates happen to be incarcerated in the United States of America and in Maricopa County where I run the jails, we speak English here, not foreign languages."

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Sep 1, 2007 @ 12:08 PM Reformation and the impact on society....    
Heaveninawildflower


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Oh, and it's been a couple of weeks since we had a day with a high less than 110 degrees, but convicts live in 'Tent City'. The twist I really like is that it includes animal abusers, whose recovering pets occupy the brick jail, air-conditioned, while they're being cared for.

Edited to add:

During the summer of 2003, when outside temperatures exceeded 110 degrees Fahrenheit (higher than average, even for scorching hot Phoenix) Arpaio said to complaining inmates, "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents and they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths" [2]. Inmates were given permission to wear only their pink underwear.


[Edited on 9/1/2007 12:12 PM]
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Sep 1, 2007 @ 12:09 PM Reformation and the impact on society....    
1stsignofspring


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Hats off to Sheriff Joe!! Brilliant I say, brilliant!!
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Sep 1, 2007 @ 12:27 PM Reformation and the impact on society....    
kattsmeow


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