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| Sep 10, 2007 @ 11:53 PM |
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onoudn
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Sometimes I will read just a couple of words and feel such a burning desire to respond that I neglect to read the rest of the comment, blog, thread, etc. Having admitted that:
I just have to wonder how many of us really read and take the time to comprehend what a person is trying to bring across when they post something ? Right now, or before I started writing myself, I was watching one blog after another run off the home page and thinking, 'no one is really reading all of these blogs'. They can't be reading all these blogs. And if they are they're not taking the time to comprehend them.
I know for a fact a lot of us don't stop, read ,and try to understand what the other person is trying to tell us. I know because I read the same response to comments, I've already commented on, numerous times on my blog, thread, comments, etc, all the time. Sometimes they come from different people, who may have just joined the discussion. Sometimes it is the same person repeating themselves over and over again, as if I haven't written anything.
I'm not trying to act like this is something profound that no one else has noticed or even cares about. But I do think its a shame. There are a lot of really nice people here. Unfortunately most of us are so busy thinking about what we are going to write, we never really communicate with each other. Not really. And the funniest thing about it is its all written out for us. What does that say about us?
There's a thing called active listening that you can learn in any communication class. It refers to actually listening to a persons words when they speak instead of thinking about how you are going to respond. It would be nice if more of us could adopt a blog/forum version of this. What I mean specifically is this. It would be nice if more of us would read to comprehend and understand rather than to find an excuse to get our point across.
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 1:20 AM |
Comprehension and your response to threads, blogs, & comments (blog repost) |
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robodad
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 1:29 AM |
Comprehension and your response to threads, blogs, & comments (blog repost)
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ToucherinSparks
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Dude! Put your listening ears on. The dude is trying to communicate with you, don't you comprehend it?
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 2:17 AM |
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beckyiv42000
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There's a thing called active listening that you can learn in any communication class.
you first k?? tell us how that works out 
O when you start listening then MAYBE you will see that yes we do comprehend what others are trying to say and are expressing our opinions... you obviously take a persons opinion if it differs from yours as them not listening instead of what it is a DIFFERENCE of opinion ... not everyone has a problem with comprehension .. some have problems with their WORDING and post things that do not EXPRESS what they REALLY meant ... not the fault of the reader its the fault of the poster... throwing a blanket statement that we need to learn to comprehend is patronizing and presumptuous MOST of us do comprehend and see when someone is being a prig or posting backhanded BS k? ignorance is NOT rampant here and we do not need a baby sitter or teacher
wow i wonder if you will be able to comprehend what i just said  should i spell it out for you or have you taken that class?? 
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 6:27 AM |
Comprehension and your response to threads, blogs, & comments (blog repost)
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robodad
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I guess I missed that class.
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 7:41 AM |
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ISSUESWOPTIONS
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O when you start listening then MAYBE you will see that yes we do comprehend what others are trying to say and are expressing our opinions... you obviously take a persons opinion if it differs from yours as them not listening instead of what it is a DIFFERENCE of opinion ... not everyone has a problem with comprehension .. some have problems with their WORDING and post things that do not EXPRESS what they REALLY meant ... not the fault of the reader its the fault of the poster... throwing a blanket statement that we need to learn to comprehend is patronizing and presumptuous MOST of us do comprehend and see when someone is being a prig or posting backhanded BS k? ignorance is NOT rampant here and we do not need a baby sitter or teacher
 *spank* presumptuous is ALSO attack out of dislike for an individual. If you read what is types and drop the personal bias, it makes perfect sense. But if you attack without understanding, then you are provoking. Remember that perception is a process that should be checked and updated from time to time.
now O....
There's a thing called active listening that you can learn in any communication class. It refers to actually listening to a persons words when they speak instead of thinking about how you are going to respond. It would be nice if more of us could adopt a blog/forum version of this. What I mean specifically is this. It would be nice if more of us would read to comprehend and understand rather than to find an excuse to get our point across.
I am taking this as being your closing statement and therefore answering from such. You can take many things from active listening and interpret them into a typed arena, but you will never be able to duplicate eye contact, and or verbal emotions and influxes. That is where the art of communication, online, suffers from. That is also where the art of communication, in reality, goes wrong. Over all though, many people are single now due to a severe lack of communication ability.
I will stop there as to further the discussion...
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 10:13 AM |
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Loreli
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It refers to actually listening to a persons words when they speak instead of thinking about how you are going to respond. I agree.
Better yet, listen to their words and ask for clarification before feeling the need to respond defensively, or untruthfully.
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 10:17 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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Having spent many years in a corporate environment, I've taken that active listening course, among many others that I've considered to be a total waste of time. Didn't help, I don't listen any better than I ever did.
Sadian's right though, if you start out with a bias against an individual, you're going to be looking for something to fight over rather than really listening to what they say. Kind of like the Sunnis and Shiites and such.
Unfortunately most of us are so busy thinking about what we are going to write, we never really communicate with each other. Not really. And the funniest thing about it is its all written out for us. What does that say about us?
Probably says we're normal human beings, with the attitude that when we die, the world ends...in a way it does, but if people still remember us and are influenced by what we did or said, we continue on in them.
So what makes the difference? Why do we listen to some people and not others?
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 11:58 AM |
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onoudn
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Becky said:
O when you start listening then MAYBE you will see that yes we do comprehend what others are trying to say and are expressing our opinions... you obviously take a persons opinion if it differs from yours as them not listening instead of what it is a DIFFERENCE
As far back as I can remember, from the first time I started posting in the forums, you have been making these types of statements. You constantly bash people you don't like with personal attacks. I don't know how you get away with it day after day, month after month, year after year. I hope you comprehend what others have told you in response. If you won't listen to me or the moderators I hope you will listen to someone.
Stop read and comprehend. I've told you time and time again and I will repeat once again. I choose not to be in an abusive relationship with you. The only reason I'm responding now is because I think I might be able to get through to you given the topic of this thread. Comprehend this: STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS
Learn to draft your concerns in a respectful manner. I understand you might disagree. I understand that at times you may disagree vehemently and emotionally. But you never have anything nice to say to me. You never agree. Or if you have I can't recall it. Can you recall a time when you agreed or have had something nice to say about anything I've posted becky ?
sadian
I am taking this as being your closing statement and therefore answering from such. You can take many things from active listening and interpret them into a typed arena, but you will never be able to duplicate eye contact, and or verbal emotions and influxes. That is where the art of communication, online, suffers from. That is also where the art of communication, in reality, goes wrong. Over all though, many people are single now due to a severe lack of communication ability.
I was going to add this as part of the OP but time got the better of me. I agree with this completely. The internet is not a substitute for the real thing. The closest your going to get is having a webcam. But the little "ball people" help...like this one..
loreli
Better yet, listen to their words and ask for clarification before feeling the need to respond defensively, or untruthfully.
Yeah....that's true too. I have noticed you do try to get clarification a lot. In otherwords you practice what you preach. One of the reasons I started off the OP the way I did was to admit I do " quick draw" on the response sometimes.
Heaveninawildflower
Sadian's right though, if you start out with a bias against an individual, you're going to be looking for something to fight over rather than really listening to what they say. Kind of like the Sunnis and Shiites and such.
Probably says we're normal human beings, with the attitude that when we die, the world ends...in a way it does, but if people still remember us and are influenced by what we did or said, we continue on in them.
So what makes the difference? Why do we listen to some people and not others? Good question heaven. It depends for me. I might listen if I think the person has my best interest at heart, or if I think my best interest is at stake, or both. I won't listen if I don't respest your opinion for some reason. Other reasons might be anything from I'm tired, short on time, or bias---as already stated.
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 1:34 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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I know for a fact a lot of us don't stop, read ,and try to understand what the other person is trying to tell us.
I try..but that is all anyone can do is try.. 
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 1:38 PM |
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beckyiv42000
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Becky said:
O when you start listening then MAYBE you will see that yes we do comprehend what others are trying to say and are expressing our opinions... you obviously take a persons opinion if it differs from yours as them not listening instead of what it is a DIFFERENCE
As far back as I can remember, from the first time I started posting in the forums, you have been making these types of statements.
I see you totally DIDN'T comprehend my post .. again you didn't listen  thats okay ... just like you cannot recall when you first started posting I agreed with some of your posts but as SOON as I had a difference of opinion and voiced it, you pulled the race card... then proceeded with your rants on the N word and other inflammatory topics just to PROVE your point and chastise those who disagreed with you by insinuating it was because of your race  and you continue to do so... my post was MY OPINION of the topic which apparently from yours and others postings Im NOT allowed to voice which it total bull ...
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 1:43 PM |
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onoudn
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I agree tink. All anyone can do is try to understand where another person is comming from.
Unless you can do the Vulcan mind meld online I wonder if complete and utter comprehension is even possible?????
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 1:58 PM |
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onoudn
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becky here is sadian response to your comments.. spank* presumptuous is ALSO attack out of dislike for an individual. If you read what is types and drop the personal bias, it makes perfect sense. But if you attack without understanding, then you are provoking. Remember that perception is a process that should be checked and updated from time to time.
heaven responded to sadian remarks....
Sadian's right though, if you start out with a bias against an individual, you're going to be looking for something to fight over rather than really listening to what they say. Kind of like the Sunnis and Shiites and such.
I agree with both of them. I admit my bias. I don't care for the way you respond becks. You house everything you say to me in a personal attack. Typically, I'll read about two of four words and see its the same old bs and not bother to even read the rest because, as I've mentioned, I don't come here to encourage abusive relationships. You seem to want to have a relationship with me albiet abusive. You seem to want to force your opinion. Again, i ask when have you ever said anything nice about any of my post? Can't you remember a specific time ? Can't you remember even one time ?
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 2:47 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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Then if someone isn`t comprehending what your saying..then why after the first time continue to respond to their post?..I`d just give it up and ignore them. Why continue to converse with them if they aren`t getting what your saying?
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 3:05 PM |
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onoudn
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Then if someone isn`t comprehending what your saying..then why after the first time continue to respond to their post?..I`d just give it up and ignore them. Why continue to converse with them if they aren`t getting what your saying?
Hope. I guess that's the main reason tink. If you just give up then there never will be any meeting of the minds. I just don't like the sound of that. BTW I actually enjoy a spirited debate now and again. I even understand that it might get a little personal. But when its everyday, all the time, no matter what the topic of the thread is, then, I agree tink----why bother? Unless there are at the least two people willing to try to understand each other any attempts at communication is futile. JMO.....Unless all you want to do is understand yourself.
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 3:08 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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Unless all you want to do is understand yourself.
That would be a cold day in that hot place if i even began to understand myself.. 
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 3:16 PM |
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onoudn
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lol@ tink
I don't agree. If I go by the way you post....it seems like you have a pretty good understanding of who you are tink...and understanding who we are, what we want in a discussion, and whether our expectations are realistic and/or even reasonable are other important elements of comprehension of what other are trying to tell us .....I would think.
(spell edit)
[Edited on 9/11/2007 3:43 PM]
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 3:23 PM |
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twotall911
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geez im glad i just act dumb at times
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| Sep 11, 2007 @ 3:45 PM |
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onoudn
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| Nov 5, 2007 @ 10:24 PM |
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onoudn
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