| Apr 11 @ 2:59 PM |
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Blondino
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Bacon
But I can't dig a word you are saying . Times change, people and cultures evolve....I guess some just can't wrap their arms around that.  
here in Europe dresses are the norm ... we love them .. we wear them .. we feel good in them .....  its a choice
I can celebrate our differences .... but wow hate when some man is condescending ....
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| Apr 11 @ 3:01 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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We need feminists because of men like my History teacher, who, though I'm intellectually superior to many of the men in the class...refuse to take me and many of the other girls in the class seriously. I tried talking about the election with him and he just yes'd me to death until a man joined the conversation, and then he actually started to speak.  The worst part is, he calls himself a Democrat.
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| Apr 11 @ 3:02 PM |
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raykl
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Let's talk about dresses. When I was younger, dresses were the norm. Today they are the exception, at least in the places I go. Why is that? I believe it's because while feminism has on one side feminized society on the other side it has masculized (my word) the women all in an effort to make women and men equal. That is a huge tragedy and mistake.
You fogot the pearl necklace. Someone please do a search for this guy and find him another June Cleaver.
btw dresses = gross
From the posting I am seeing a definition problem. People are confusing Feminism with the act of being feminine. Two seperate words with different meanings.
I would define Feminism as the desire to have equality AND to choose the road to travel without outside direction.
Being feminine is just doing the female acts that MOST men desire (wearing dresses, makeup, treated as a lady, etc.).
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| Apr 11 @ 3:12 PM |
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Blondino
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Blondino said
What do feminists want?
To end the perpetuation of gender expectations that, on balance, harm women.
To explain the many ways that sexist stereotypes, double standards, and oppressions harm women generally .
It is important to know that feminism is about equality, not anger ... there are three groups .. Liberal Feminists are the ones who scare men
not I .... I like being feminine ..... love it ....love being a woman ... a girl ... but I can be a girl a woman a feminine creature without being weak , in need of looking after , defencless , ... I can do a good job ...
but that does not stop me being feminist too .....and demanding I am treated without gender stereotyping & double standards
we are equal though not the same
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| Apr 11 @ 3:18 PM |
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youbetcha
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raykl I don't know who you just slammed more, me or the real ladies here that I have seen plenty of 
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| Apr 11 @ 3:25 PM |
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budo13
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YOU dude i think yer fighting a losing battle here woman have every right to be equals and who really cares what they wear besides if they did not wear pants how could i enjoy those nice tight asses in jeans and not to mention the camel toes (being a little piggish sorry ladies)
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| Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM |
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SaintBacon
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Excuse me Mr. Manly Man, but I happen to look VERY sexy in my sisters dress  And based on your postings, your flattering yourself by stating anything regarding a "real mans world". Now please excuse me, I have to change dresses, the cocktail hour is almost upon us 
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| Apr 11 @ 3:33 PM |
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NawtiKitty
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A feminized society cannot accept that
The feminized society has accepted this and gone forward, YouBetcha. Perhaps its time you moved forward as well. In your rant to chant the evils of feminism, there are many aspects you have forgotten
Being that you seem to miss the point entirely, let me explain it to you very simply what feminism means, YouBetcha. You require enlightment and so by the power invested in me and my "cunt"...yes I said the word "cunt" and by saying that word in this forum I take back the power you, as a solo representative of your gender, associate with it.It is merely a word like pussy or vagina so your use of it has no negative impact on me. Please try to get your head around that concept without much adieu 
It means you can no longer rape a woman and it's dismissed as something "minor". Period. She can now take your pathetic, neanderthal, knuckle-dragging ass to court and put it in jail for physically violating her and demeaning her. Rape is that serious an offence in this glorious year of 2008. That is one of the things feminism has done for the "cunts". 
It means you, in the capacity of a husband, do not have the right to rape her and claim it as "your right" because you are her husband. Again, you will have your neanderthal ass dragged off to court.  Yes it's true we are no longer considered "chatel" or "property". I know it's a shocker for you  
It means that if I, as a woman, choose to terminate a pregnancy , I can terminate that pregnancy and it is absolutely none of your business. It gives me bodily integrity and autonomy. Look up the word if you're unsure of it's meaning 
If I as a woman, choose to wear a pair of blue jeans and not some stupid frilly dress, I can.
It means you are no longer protected by the law if you assault me as your domestic partner. I choose to put you in jail. Get used to that idea .
If I choose to work I expect to be paid the same amount of money for the same job and responsibities.
In the event I choose to carry the life within me to full term, it guarantees me the right to adequate prenate care so that the child I bring forth into this world is healthy and I am educated to care for it. 
It means that society now recognizes that in the event I choose to have a baby that while gone I will no longer be fired or scrutinized about losing my job but will in fact be given financial assistance while off on maternity leave.
If I choose to not get pregnant and use birth control, that is my decision to make and not yours.
If I choose to walk down the street in a mini skirt and heels, I can feel free to do so and not be sexually or verbally harassed as it violates my rights as a human being to walk freely in this world without fear of harassment.
In denying any woman these "rights" you conduct yourself as a terrorist  and that is no longer acceptable.
I hope you've enjoy my soap box rant and now if you don't mind, I'm going to go for a pedicure and a manicure cuz that's what a FEMINIST DOES TOO!!
Pst? Brass? You would LOVE my workshop.. I have a mitre double bevel laser 12 inch mitre saw, a table saw, a circular saw, a reciprocating saw, a jig saw. I'm in the middle of renovating my own kitchen-just did the cupboards and they rawk!!! And a few other tools too
Dont ever think just cuz you're in an industry where women haven't applied that we aren't capable ...yes it does chew up my acrylic nails so I leave them off and get them redone when I'm done
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| Apr 11 @ 3:40 PM |
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budo13
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Nawti,too bad Scorpio's clash
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| Apr 11 @ 3:41 PM |
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NawtiKitty
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raykl I don't know who you just slammed more, me or the real ladies here that I have seen plenty of
He's not slamming any ladies here at all YouBetcha 
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| Apr 11 @ 3:46 PM |
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NawtiKitty
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Only if you don't know where your "place" is Budo
*runs away from Budo and the can of "whoop ass" in his hand*
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| Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM |
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budo13
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i know my role Nawti and i know my place no need to run from me women are the greatest creation on this earth they need to be treated with respect and dignity 
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| Apr 11 @ 4:06 PM |
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luvmycats
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Let's talk about dresses. When I was younger, dresses were the norm. Today they are the exception, at least in the places I go. Why is that? I believe it's because while feminism has on one side feminized society on the other side it has masculized (my word) the women all in an effort to make women and men equal. That is a huge tragedy and mistake. Now being a real lady is just as unpopular as being a real man. I see you ignored my question about wearing a dress Youbet. Yet you accuse Bacon of wearing one??? What a closed mind you have. You think feminism has made women wear dresses? Wrong, it ALLOWED us to wear pants. Try standing outside in winds with -25 below 0 waiting for the school bus! When we were finally able to wear pants to school, (to keep our legs warm) we also realized other benefits. COMFORT. Just because some of us choose not to wear dresses all the time, does not mean we aren't ladies. Clothes don't make a lady, actions do.
I can be both, a very civilized lady, but I can also knock you down and kick your ass if I need to.
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| Apr 11 @ 4:19 PM |
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robodad
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Feminists are sooooooooooo cute!
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| Apr 11 @ 4:26 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Feminism can be viewed as a disease. Much like misogynist. These create a separation in something that will only be true when there is no division.
And that my deep thought of the day. Wheres the boobs?
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| Apr 11 @ 4:33 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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I didn't see anything offensive about Raykl's post either, unless you're June Cleaver or you believe that the makeup, dress and pearl makeup make the lady; I really don't. They're the packaging, nothing more.
Anyone who judges a book by its cover is generally in for a shock down the road.
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| Apr 11 @ 4:38 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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I dont judge til I read the book itself. And always grin over the covers.
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| Apr 11 @ 4:46 PM |
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SeaWhitegotlost
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I have very little sympathy for "innocent" people who live in a country that wants to overthrow ours. It's guilt by association. If they were completely innocent, they would leave that country ...
Does Youbetcha seriously think that the Iraquis should be criticised for still being in Iraq??
I've been held up for hours trying to cross borders (e.g. Syrian/Turkish and Bulgarian/Turkish) There was nothing illegal about what I was doing and I was in possession of a valid passport and the necessary visas. For political, military and economic reasons, I don't fancy the chances of would-be migrants trying to get out of a country like Iraq or of being welcomed into another with open arms. Of the many who would like to leave, only a tiny fraction manage it.
He was joking, ... wasn't he?
Anyway, to get back to feminism, I agree with what many posters have said about it all boiling down to equality. It's not about women trying to be men but just about having their rights respected - such rights as not to be raped, harassed, paid less than men for the same work or kept out of so-called "men's jobs" without a good reason.
Women's rights are basically human rights, aren't they?
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| Apr 11 @ 5:02 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Women's rights are basically human rights, aren't they? Yes.
But Feminism is in favor of an overly amount. The day that the pendulum stops it swing is the day we will have balance equality. The harmony apparently long forgotten.
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| Apr 11 @ 5:15 PM |
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NawtiKitty
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But Feminism is in favor of an overly amount 
Equality my friend...Equality
The day that the pendulum stops it swing is the day we will have balance equality.
I agree..and until then it needs to keep swinging cuz it aint equal.........yet
When a woman earns more than just 70% of a man's wage? I'll be thinking its getting closer
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