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SpiritEnergy
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Have you ever met people that always had some sort of problem? They are always telling you their sad story? One story after another?  Well, those people are users.
They tell you their stories to elicit sympathy and to get something from you, be it attention, service, sex, money, ect. Whatever it is they eventually ask you for. Or even better, they poorboy you until YOU offer it to them. What better way to do it? Drain your energy by their terrible stories until you just give up and give in. Throw money at them to make them go away? Oooooh no. Don't do that. That is like cutting yourself in a water full of sharks. FEEDING frenzy!
Manipulators. They will use whatever means to get what THEY want. Abusers. They will use any tool to elicit YOUR support. And if you call them on it, suddenly YOU are the bad guy. They call YOU the abuser. Woops! Now the victim attacks! Wooo, watch out!
Know any of those type people? What stories have you heard? What have you done out of 'sympathy' or self defense?
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| May 7 @ 1:36 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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stupid f***ing puter
[Edited on 5/7/2008 1:38 AM]
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burnslikethesun
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oh i hate wireless
[Edited on 5/7/2008 1:41 AM]
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burnslikethesun
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woooh
Ill keep the dirty laundry to myself.
But good luck to you
Theres a sayin that when you give, of anything of yourself, do you giove for them or is it because of you., how it makes you feel. I never offer money or time or efforts that i have a view of it cominback. The good deed listeng is support. A truth in any situational need. If i give time, money or any other less meanings so someoone i konow what the pay back may or may not be,. Its a gift. and some shoulodnt be givtf givers. Whne It effect my family or loved one health and home. Im the firt guy you can feel free to call on me in the middle a cold nonlocal night If i9f I feel your strife or struggles I will make the ones of my own. If it was an ear that needed to be given over 1000 miles o0f optical lione and dish signals, a phoe call where we talkl tiol opur battrier fall about.
Buit dont give if you end up on the short end of the stick. Accept[pt that this coukd a bad satiation's, so hard far will you allow it to take you?
Theresnot just pone person that is into the dance of embettermnt. theres you. Muy mottoo ios give, as a known gift/. This is the shield to buffer out them confusioniong issues.
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| May 7 @ 2:23 AM |
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SpiritEnergy
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Hm, didn't really understand all that Burns. That really was not the topic tho. I was asking for people that have been conned to share some of the ways they got conned. Perhaps I will share one first to get it started.
I have a brother that is, last we heard, a hard core drug addict. One year he was so trashed from crack he tried telling our Mom that he had pancreatic cancer to cover his emaciation. Well, when we researched that type of cancer, we found it was usually fatal in 6 months. Needless to say, that was so many years ago as to make it quite certain he had no cancer, just very strung out.
Same brother, one time he came to me asking me for a place to stay for three days while a place in a halfway house opened up for him. So, like a fool, I went for it. Let him move in temporarily. Two weeks later, after he ate me out of all the food I had money to buy and still no bed opened up, I told him I could not afford him staying there anymore.
After he left, a week later, I went to look for tools I needed in a box where I kept them. Seems he cleaned me out of my tools as well.  
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| May 7 @ 2:47 AM |
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mystery2u888
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Spirit, I know exactly what your talking about.  ..being taken advantage of.........offering someone things......out of good will........letting someone in.....and they drain you of everything......and if ...........given the opportunity.......they will take and keep taking...  ....more than what you thought.......I have been there........and I just say no........ .........nooo more...............  Out of simple nature......we are humans so ........most of us are simply caring people and want to help others..........out when in need of help............then.......there is a time that you help out too much.......and they take advantage of it............some can't say no.....  ....lesson learned but...................a good one at that...  .....Never again...... Many Promises ect......go on ......however in the end......you do find out.........they have no conscious.........of what they are doing....and try to make you feel guilty..........not going to happen.......  
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| May 7 @ 2:55 AM |
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SpiritEnergy
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I relate to that. This one is sort of funny/embarrassing. I had a friend/boss that I rode around with while we went to jobs. I was training in locksmithing with him. He was always talking about how bad his wife was. They were separated and he was living in his shop. Well, when that tactic did not work (I didn't know then it was a tactic), he used another one on me.
Went on and on about these two gay women that wanted him to sleep with them. They all went on a camping trip together. The women 'tried' to seduce him but he wasn't having any of it. (  anyone get the punchline yet?) Soooo, dumb little me, I figured I could get in his pants where they could not. Duuuhhh!
Well, he gave in! It was not until years later I figured it out.  Some other guy tried it on me.  Of course, I wasn't havin' any o DAT number dis time. 
Hey, I was real naive then.
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| May 7 @ 3:44 AM |
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grumblebear
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the con artists you mention make up a large group... but the shaman / mystic / spiritualist / witchdoctor is one I have a tough time with... They speak of the "magic hoodoo" of whatever they believe, and claim miracle events, while feeding off of the attention their "gifts" bring them... "Just buy this rock" or "these charts show" or whatever the belief, they all want time, money, attention, etc...
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| May 7 @ 9:24 AM |
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SaintBacon
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I had a long-time friend. High school buddies and one of my first really good female friends. We could talk about anything. After a couple of years I realized that she ALWAYS had trouble with her boyfriends. They ALWAYS turned out to be losers...but she kept dating the same type. That was generally the subject of our conversations. Hours spend listening to the failings of her romantic interests. Finally I told her flat out that if she didn't want to bitch about men her whole life she should date a different type of man. Then she began to have all sorts of health problems. It's all she wanted to talk about. If I started relating some phyical problem of mine, she would top it with a story of her own. Eventually it killed our friendship. Talking to her became painful...she literally sucked all of the sympathy right out of me. I'm all about supporting a friend and lending them an ear, but dammit, God helps those that help themselves, so crawl off the pity wagon and start discussing solutions, not problems!
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| May 7 @ 9:30 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I had this friend named Ashley in my last two years of high school up till about a few months ago who is an emotional vampire.
She's always got SOME sort of problem with a boyfriend, a kid at school, her roommate at college, her family, or whatever....and it has ALWAYS been like this. She'd call me up and complain to me for hours about how she didn't know what to do and could I give her advice and all this crap....and never once did she ask how I was or provide a shoulder when I needed someone. Worse than that was when Dan started being an asshole to me....she completely ran out on me, completely....stopped calling, etc. She hasn't called me in about a month, so I decided I really just don't give a shit about her problems anymore. I'm just done....
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| May 7 @ 10:15 AM |
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beckyiv42000
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Heck take a peek in blogland you can see examples of ...
Users.. those that USE others to advance some agenda or vendetta and use this site to do so
Abusers those same people abusing others with foul language and name calling(then crying victim  ) and abuse the rules of the blogs
manipulators .. yep same people again manipulating those that trust them to again further their agenda or vendetta and that manipulate the site to suit themselves
its funny tho usually the SAME person is guilty of all of it at once and its a CYCLE.. a constant one.. they CANNOT just leave things be .. when things calm down ... a few in particular HAVE to start the shit all over again.. its sickening
Trashing of others wonderful blogs with their nastiness .. instead of IGNORING those they don't like they go out of their way to harass an innocent in hopes that the friends of the target will come to their defense the old you are a friend of someone I hate so I'm going to attack you because I'm too much of a chickenshit to face you head on but then Users abusers and manipulators are cowards plain and simple
Oh and if some people see themselves in my post .. then GOOD
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| May 7 @ 10:18 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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great.... now "the bloggers" are going to come here ( into the forum...)..to start up again...
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| May 7 @ 10:26 AM |
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beckyiv42000
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Nahh GH why would they do that?? 
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| May 7 @ 10:29 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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 ... denial... 
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| May 7 @ 10:33 AM |
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| May 7 @ 11:32 AM |
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Pete73052
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I saw what Mystery posted above and for a minute I thought Nat was back...
(He STILL complains about me on POF )
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| May 7 @ 11:44 AM |
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pamdemonium
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If you learn from the manipulation, then all isn't lost.
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| May 7 @ 12:29 PM |
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Brass_Wolf
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Can Anyone spot me a $20 til Friday?
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| May 7 @ 12:46 PM |
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1stsignofspring
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I have 2 case quarters
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| May 7 @ 1:03 PM |
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Loreli
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I'm nol certain these 3 belong in the same category for the most part.
For example....
I would never consider a friend or family member any of the above, if they just poured their heart out to me.....if they were trying. (key)
A new person in my life...I'd try to help (empath in me)
Drugs, theft, trouble with the law.....big problems. Abusing themselves, probably Using others.
Manipulation is a little different 
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