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Apr 20, 2009 @ 3:34 PM Street Beggars    
Always_Striving


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I am getting fed up with street beggars, particularly the ones that approach me begging for money. These beggars are pretty well dressed (considering their portrayed circumstances). Lately they are around Sr. High School age to 20 something.

Now what they don't unstand is that I have not a single drop of sympathy for them but instead I would prefer to hit them in the head with a brick.

When they approach me with .... "excuse me sir...." Immediately I identify them with being a beggar. I ignore them as they repeatedly say "excuse me, excuse me". I act as if they don't even exist, and that they are lower than scum.

It is my perception that beggars are worse than thieves, because at least a thieve has to work a little at stealing. I hypothesize that the lastest trend in youth begging has to do with their poor child rearing. Maybe no dad in the household to set those young men straight and some single moms have caved in to every demand from their male children not understanding how to lay down the law with males and turn them into responsible "work for a living" men. I say that because that is exactly how they sound when begging...... "mom can you give me ____ please?"

These young beggars need an ass-kicking and motivation to be looking for work instead of begging. They obviously had no good mentorship while growing up.

A different breed of beggars hangs out waiting for you to approach them. They are the ones that have no sympathy card to deal. They hang out in front of convinient stores and freeway offramps (exits) holding signs of depressed situations. These are older men and women who have graduated to the next level. Many of them these days have a dog with them to portray the situation that they also have a dog to feed. I had noticed in a few cases that they have a car parked just a few hundred feet away from where they stand on the begging days and it's gone after they are through with their shift.

Their philosophy..... Why approach people when they can just approach you? All one has to do is stand in one spot and wait. I watched one guy ahead of me at the off ramp give some food (a bag of popcorn) to one of those bums and the beggar just threw it into the street.

I have bought food for what "I perceive" to be the real homeless and hungry type in the past. I am not going to even give a glance to some bum that approaches me to ask me for a dime.... that's right.... 10 cents for gas money to get to Seattle.
Arrrrgh.... these are the type I want to hit in the head with a brick.



How do you people feel about Street Beggars?

I had one approach me today while I was eating a nice peaceful lunch in my car today.

[Edited on 4/20/2009 4:29 PM]
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 4:11 PM Street Beggars    
thor22


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first time I was ever in Nashville, TN., a dirty dressed, old street hillybilly who looked liked he had come straight from out of the movie 'deliverance' approached me and asked us for some money. I told my tight wad cousin to give me a 5 spot, which I took and handed to the beggar...while my cousin had been getting his money from his wallet and all eyes were diverted on him, I secretly took a 100 dollar bill out of my pocket and snuck it into the folded 5 before I handed it to the mooch...

as we all walked away I watched as the hillbillly bum looked at the money and discoverd the C note...he stopped dead in his tracks and his half-toothless mouth about dropped to the ground and he pulled off his worn out, dirty and frayed baseball cap and stratched away at the top of his scraggly haired head...then he took the bills in both hands and zoomed them in and out from his unbelieving and blinking eyes a couple of times to make sure he was seeing correctly, wiped them a couple of times and when he realized he wasn't seeing things, he staggered a few steps backwards like he'd already been spending those dollars on the booze I'm sure he went and bought...

I wonder how much 105 dollars was worth to that guy...to me, it was a lot to pay, but to see how he reacted was totally fracking priceless
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 4:20 PM Street Beggars    
Loreli


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Once in awhile we get people stand on busy street corners with signs saying "will work for food."

Since I don't know them, and I'm a single Mom with 1 child here, I won't bring them into my home.
But, will make peanut butter sandwiches and take them to them...
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 5:04 PM Street Beggars    
Heaveninawildflower


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Personally I don't give to them. That goes back to when I lived back in NYC - there was a really busy corner that this old lady used to work pretty often. One day I saw what I presume was her family, picking her up in a nice shiny limo.



I have to disagree with Always though - to her it was obviously all in a day's work.
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 5:16 PM Street Beggars    
thor22


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^^^ "all in a day's work"!
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 6:00 PM Street Beggars    
open_horizons


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I don't run into street beggars that often, but when one asks me for money, I just say "I was about to ask you the same question." That usually gets a chuckle out of them or they aren't quite sure how to respond.

Once a guy came to my door and asked for money, or food, or anything I could give him. I told him if he would mow my yard I would give him dinner and a little spending money. He grunted and declined my offer, so I wished him well and shut the door.

Another time, I was with a date and I had some leftover food in a doggy bag. As we were leaving the restaurant, a man asked me for the food in the bag. I jokingly told him that times were tough and I stole the food from the restaurant to take home to my baby momma and her 6 kids, and that if I didn't bring home the food, she would stop giving me loving. Needless to say, the beggar laughed and moved on.

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Apr 20, 2009 @ 6:08 PM Street Beggars    
missliss78


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The situations around here are sort of like what Heaven mentioned. No shiney limos but I've seen them being picked up & let off at a service station not far from the intersection they "work." And, yes, it's just a job for some....they'd rather stand there & beg than do real work.
As for giving, there are numerous causes in my area to which one can donate to help out homeless people. We have a soup kitchen & 2 or 3 places that I am aware of for housing or at minimum overnight stays.
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 6:48 PM Street Beggars    
CPUfan


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I've had some personal insight into the background of beggars and buskers too.

While working in London over ten years back, from my hotel room I could see several 'poor unfortunates' bringing out their sleeping bags before the rush hour and placing them in shop doorways, or the entrance to the Underground ('subway').

They wore old clothes and messed up their hair, got in their sleeping bags and put a tin cup by their feet. Lots of people stopped to give them money, often chatting with them about their situation. After the rush hour they packed up and went home. I later saw one going into an apartment. He was obviously claiming social security and probably getting his rent paid every month. What's wrong with a bit of tax free income on the side as long as someone else pays taxes for your social security?

That was the last time I gave any donations. Much earlier, in Sweden, I knew a busker who worked the town station. He said he picked up about 100-200 dollars a week from that. He was also receiving unemployment benefits, busking in the rush hour and moonlighting in pubs and clubs in the evenings for cash. By far the most lucrative income was his busking however. I think all told he was looking at 300+ dollars a week for 'working' maybe 15 hours...

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Apr 20, 2009 @ 6:50 PM Street Beggars    
BandTMom


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I usually ignore them because many of them make more money pan handling than I do working my butt off 40 hours a week.

But one time, a man approached me in the Walmart parking lot. He told me he was from a near-by state and that his dad was in St. Anthony's Hospital for some reason which I have forgotten. There were real tears in his eyes when he spoke of his dad and remembering that I no longer have a dad, I looked into my wallet. I had 3 ones and a 10. First, i pulled out the ones and then said, "What the hell", and gave him the 10.

He burst into tears.

Feeling happy that I had helped someone in need, I pulled out of the parking lot and saw the man....gleefully loping towards the store entrance.

I guess I bought him a 12 pack for the night.

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Apr 20, 2009 @ 7:24 PM Street Beggars    
Brass_Wolf


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Unless they stick a gun into my ribs, the answer is always "no."
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 7:24 PM Street Beggars    
willowy1


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I give. I am a sucker for a sad face. Those little chiclet hawking kids in Mexico sure do love me too.
You don't know a persons circumstances?
Not too long ago I was having lunch with the girls, and as I stood in line to pay, I noticed a scruffy looking kid ahead of me asking how much it was for a cup of coffee. It was cold outside and he was not dressed for the weather. The girl at the cash register was rolling her eyes as he was counting change.
I wadded up some cash and said "excuse me this fell out of your pocket". His eyes looked so sad. He said "no mam that is not mine". Being the little liar that I am, I said "I saw it fall out of your pocket" and my G/F she's a liar too she backed me with a "I saw it too".

You never know where the angels hang out or what they look like.
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 7:33 PM Street Beggars    
irishlass803


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When I see a street begger it is usually near a fast food place. If I am getting something from there, I will usually buy a sandwich to offer to the beggar. They generally turn it down, no problem, that is just feed to the dogs at home.

But one time I was coming out of a store, in the parking lot a man was going into a store to cash his check. He told me hello, I said hello, how are you doing? He explained he was trying to cash a check that he just picked, he had ran out of gas. This was right after Katrina, he lived 90 miles away and was working out here and finally got paid. He had his small child in the car and his very pregnant girlfriend in the car. The store I knew would not cash the check or even the walmart down the street. I took a $20 from my wallet and gave it to him. Told him to get gas from the walmart which was closest and cheapest and to get his family home. He want to thank me I told him just be thankful that I was still employed and still had a job at the local sheriff's office.

The time and circumstances were right, but most of the time I don't give cash.
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 7:58 PM Street Beggars    
Jankia


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How do you people feel about Street Beggars?
I feel they could use a hand.
Once I gave a beggar I had been watching all morning from my job site $10.
He went over to another beggar and took him him to the nearest restaurant where they both split that 10 bucks for a bite to eat.
Driving out of Madison one day with my daughter I pulled over and gave $5 to a teenage gal holding a sign begging for help.
My daughter was perplexed.She asked me why did you do that? She probably only wanted it for drugs.
I said I didnt really care what she was going to do with it but she is somebodies daughter,just like you are to me.
I would hope that if you ever got yourself into a situation where you couldnt help yourself...somebody else would help another persons daughter like I just did.
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 8:05 PM Street Beggars    
willowy1


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Apr 20, 2009 @ 8:09 PM Street Beggars    
thor22


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a friend and hie wife took me to a bar at either the hyatt or raddisson (don't recall which one?), in downtown Mpls, MN, one time and after we were done I was waiting out front for them to come pick me up and this obvious street person came walking up to me and asked if I could spare some change...she was wearing dirty, unkept clothes and her hair was all snarled...I handed her 20 dollars and she burst out crying, said "thank you thank you thank you", and gave me a big hug...

later, on our way home, I thought of how it sez in scripture to give the shirt of your back, and I regretted that I hadn't gave all of the 60 dollars I had on me...
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 8:14 PM Street Beggars    
Jankia


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Its ironic Thor,that fellow I gave the $10 to was also in downtown Mpls, MN.
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 8:20 PM Street Beggars    
thor22


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janika...I meet a street begger who was in a wheelchair in downtown Mpls one night last summer and I hung out and went clubbing with him for a couple hrs...bought him drinks and something to eat of a sidewalk cake in the warehouse district...kinda made me feel good too, jhy!
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 8:41 PM Street Beggars    
Coven4nt


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Begin' for money? F'ing A-holes... begin' for food or trading work for food, that aint a beggar, that is just a person in need to have food.

I never denied food to someone who asked me and i never will while i have means to provide that.
Tho' here where i live there aint many, but on the capital that is growing, many families in desperate need for the new politics of the state, theyr living on tents or boxes, but there are also people who dressed uo fine suits, all branded (high brands) and dont give food for the kids, usualy those kids have one good meal during all day, and that is what school provides them, in this case i (as governer, chief and comander) would strip the kids from theyr parents or forbid them to buy branded products (like clothes) and force them to buy food for kids!

There are no social justice!
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 8:59 PM Street Beggars    
missliss78


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You don't know a persons circumstances?

Willowy1, this is so true. However, in my city, there are places these people can go to get help. There is a soup kitchen that serves every single day of the year. There is one homeless shelter for people to bed down overnight. There is also a center that helps homeless adults with children....it provides a roof & means for learning & getting a job & helping to re-establish oneself.

I admire both you & Jankia for your kind hearts & giving efforts, but I'd rather donate my money to situations as I've noted above where I know it will be put to proper use.
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Apr 20, 2009 @ 9:31 PM Street Beggars    
lazareth


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I have never seen a begger on the streets here, they would probably be arrested by our "Barney Fife" mentality cops here.... but I do help with a lot of folks that come in the store that come up short paying for their groceries.
Especially those on food stamps, You can tell by who buys nutritious food and who spends their entire monthly card on nothing but junk food, candy, pepsi and stuff.
Heck, just a couple of weeks ago a girl came in and tried to buy some "female" products along with her cart full of junk food. Naturally it wouldn't cover the product. When I told her she still owed a lousy little $3 bucks and change, she tried to walk out with all of the stuff. finally after telling her how much she owed, she threw the female products at me and called me a bitch.. .. I told her if she insisted on making them a "food item" I'd be glad to oblidge her by shoving them down her throat...
yeah, what can I say.... I'm a bitch
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