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alaskenmike
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"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
Socrates Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC)
"What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders,
they disobey their parents.
They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions.
Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"
Plato (427-347 BCE)
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint"
Hesiod, 8th century BC.
"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of
today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for
parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as
if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is
foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest
and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."
Peter the Hermit in A.D. 1274
It looks to me like the "today's kids " problem has been around for quite some time.... 
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| Oct 12 @ 7:42 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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yes, yes it has....lol. that's the funny thing....we all complain about it and think somehow it's getting worse but it's really not we just can't understand the people younger than we are.
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| Oct 12 @ 8:24 PM |
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alaskenmike
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On Parenting :
The problem is that parents are so intent on finding quick cures for things that instead of spending good old fashioned quality time w/ their kids they will pawn them off on pills, shrinks, or baby sitters to deal w/ their issues. Another problem is that people here are popping out too many kids per family so not only are they not getting attention at home but then they get to school and sit in a room w/ 50 other kids and get passed over there as well. You just cant learn the basics like that. They are bored, they are ignored, and if they cause minor problems they get no reprimand and move on to bigger better things.
BLUE (Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers)
Underage crime happens because these kids have so-called dumb parents who neither know nor care where their stupid offspring hang out. Many socially inept owners of kids - can't call them parents because they have no parental skills - have sex without thinking of the consequences. When a kid arrives, they have no idea how to bring up their kids properly. In an age of the mannerless, impolite and downright gutter-kids society in which we live, the answers are reasonably straightforward.
1.All parents to be compelled to go to school on compulsory lessons on how to bring up their kids when they're born. These lessons should be continued until the kid is five and goes into education.
2.All parents of underage criminals should be able to be sued for the crimes their kids commit and face imprisonments and fines as though they had done the crime themselves.
4.We should also bring back corporal punishments and the cane and slipper in schools and reintroduce borstals for those who commit crimes.
With David Camerons "Hug-A-Thug" Conservatives itching to be in power, and New Labour (Or Old Conservatives as I see them) giving 'rights' to anything that commits a crime, I can't see much changing in the years ahead unless we the people stand up and demand changes in our laws.
Big L 266 (Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers)
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| Oct 12 @ 8:37 PM |
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Fender
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| Oct 12 @ 8:56 PM |
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blueyes101
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We have two sets of problems, half the parents refuse to discipline their kids, and the other half can't if they want to.......
And waiting until your kids are teenagers to realize how badly you screwed up by making them your best friend, is like opening the door and letting the dog run, and hope it doesn't get run over...
You have to catch them early, treat them like people ( little people ) but an person none the less, so they have enough respect to listen even if they don't always like your decisions.
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| Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM |
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alaskenmike
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and the other half can't if they want to.......
And that is why you don't give your rights as a parent to the government…to do the job for you, or to tell you how to discipline your kids. It’s simple…your kids, you responsibility and your form of punishment.
It worked just fine for my parents, after all... 
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| Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM |
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signme
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I know I've complained about kids but I have to admit I know some great teenagers. They are polite, respectful and have good morals. So the world is not totally doomed yet!
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| Oct 13 @ 2:44 AM |
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kjac
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And that is why you don't give your rights as a parent to the government…to do the job for you, or to tell you how to discipline your kids. It’s simple…your kids, you responsibility and your form of punishment.
The problem is, some parents don't know what they're doing, or don't care. But I guess we can ignore that little detail for the sake of platitudes.
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| Oct 13 @ 4:14 AM |
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Always_Striving
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Network television is THE DEVIL to teens.
When I was in high school kids brought guns and drugs and stored them in their lockers, smoked pot in the parking lot, drank, got killed in numerous ways, and some committed murders.
As far as I'm concerned they haven't gotten worse at all.... they are exactly the same. Most of us have become wiser with age but refuse to acknowledge that we witnessed the same stuff.
Network television can be the most influencial destructive tool to shape the minds of people..... teenagers brains are not fully developed are they are suceptable to external influences. It is the same reason that military recruiters target them at this age, not just because of their physical capabilities but also because their brains are not fully wired until the age of 25. I'm not bull sh!tting about this.
Basically a teenagers brain is foggy and under the stress of physiological and emotional transitioning.
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FRONTLINE's "Inside the Teenage Brain" focuses on work done by Dr. Jay Giedd at the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, Md., together with colleagues at McGill University in Montreal. In a particularly interesting study, Dr. Giedd looked at the brains of 145 normal children by scanning them at two-year intervals. This was work Giedd was only able to do with magnetic resonance imaging, because it requires neither harmful dyes nor radiation, making the study of normal children, as opposed to sick ones, ethically tenable. What the researchers have found has shed light on how the brain grows and when it grows. It was thought at one time that the foundation of the brain's architecture was laid down by the time a child is five or six. Indeed, 95 percent of the structure of the brain has been formed by then. But these researchers have discovered changes in the structure of the brain that appear relatively late in child development.Changes in the Prefrontal CortexGiedd and his colleagues found that in an area of the brain called the prefrontal cortex, the brain appeared to be growing again just before puberty. The prefrontal cortex sits just behind the forehead. It is particularly interesting to scientists because it acts as the CEO of the brain, controlling planning, working memory, organization, and modulating mood. As the prefrontal cortex matures, teenagers can reason better, develop more control over impulses and make judgments better. In fact, this part of the brain has been dubbed "the area of sober second thought." The fact that this area was still growing surprised the scientists. Although they knew that the brain of a baby grew by over-producing synapses, or connections, they had not known that there was a second period of over-production. In a baby, the brain over-produces brain cells (neurons) and connections between brain cells (synapses) and then starts pruning them back around the age of three. The process is much like the pruning of a tree. By cutting back weak branches, others flourish. The second wave of synapse formation described by Giedd showed a spurt of growth in the frontal cortex just before puberty (age 11 in girls, 12 in boys) and then a pruning back in adolescence.Even though it may seem that having a lot of synapses is a particularly good thing, the brain actually consolidates learning by pruning away synapses and wrapping white matter (myelin) around other connections to stabilize and strengthen them. The period of pruning, in which the brain actually loses gray matter, is as important for brain development as is the period of growth. For instance, even though the brain of a teenager between 13 and 18 is maturing, they are losing 1 percent of their gray matter every year.Giedd hypothesizes that the growth in gray matter followed by the pruning of connections is a particularly important stage of brain development in which what teens do or do not do can affect them for the rest of their lives. He calls this the "use it or lose it principle," and tells FRONTLINE, "If a teen is doing music or sports or academics, those are the cells and connections that will be hardwired. If they're lying on the couch or playing video games or MTV, those are the cells and connections that are going to survive." Corpus Callosum and CerebellumIn another study of growth patterns of the developing brain, Paul Thompson of the University of California at Los Angeles, along with Jay Giedd and colleagues from McGill University, found waves of growth in the corpus callosum, a fiber system that relays information between the hemispheres of the brain. Of particular interest to educators and parents is their finding that the fiber systems influencing language learning and associative thinking grew more rapidly than surrounding regions before and during puberty (a similar period to the growth of the frontal cortex), but fell off shortly after. These findings reinforce studies on language acquisition that show that the ability to learn new languages declines after the age of 12.
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| Oct 13 @ 4:16 AM |
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Always_Striving
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These studies of the corpus callosum are part of a large multi-centered research study on twins. Researchers are hopeful that twin studies will also shed light on the age-old question of nature or nurture -- which traits and characteristics are due to genetics and which can be affected by the environment. For instance, the studies have shown that the corpus callosi of twins are so similar that one can put 10 twin brain MRIs on view and even a novice can spot the pairs. The researchers therefore hypothesize that this part of the brain is largely controlled by genes. However, another piece of neuroanatomy, the cerebellum, at the back of the head just above the neck, is not very similar in twins, leading Giedd to hypothesize that the cerebellum is not genetically controlled and is thus susceptible to the environment.
Interestingly, the cerebellum is a part of the brain that changes well into adolescence. Scientists think the cerebellum helps in physical coordination. But looking at functional imaging studies of the brain, researchers also see activity in the cerebellum when the brain is processing mental tasks. Giedd thinks it works like this: "It's like a math co-processor. It's not essential for any activity ... but it makes any activity better. Anything we can think of as higher thought, mathematics, music, philosophy, decision-making, social skill, draws upon the cerebellum. ... To navigate the complicated social life of the teen and to get through these things instead of lurching seems to be a function of the cerebellum."
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| Oct 13 @ 11:24 AM |
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Always_Striving
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| Oct 13 @ 3:18 PM |
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Angel178
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I find it fasinating all the opinions from people who don't have children 
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| Oct 13 @ 6:31 PM |
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alaskenmike
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I find it fasinating all the opinions from people who don't have children Have you noticed that man on dating sites really say that they have kids ?
but know about them a lot....
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| Oct 14 @ 12:18 AM |
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kjac
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Every person was a kid once, no exceptions. None at all.
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| Oct 14 @ 12:22 AM |
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JenRNinOhio
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I had read some of this very early today
& was just gonna come back & post...
.... Almost word for word what angel posted 9 hrs ago.
<<<<<< Mother of 5... 3 teens still at home.....
NOT a good time to ask ME about kids.
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| Oct 14 @ 12:51 AM |
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knotkeeno
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jenn think respite care in vegas, 13 days to go
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| Oct 14 @ 1:11 AM |
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Jankia
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We should also bring back corporal punishments and the cane and slipper in schools and reintroduce borstals for those who commit crimes. 
Corporal punishment has no place in education.Any deliberate infliction of pain on a child is abuse.I know for a fact it doesnt work at home or at school.
As far as borstals...we had a first grade student that was removed from a public school and sent to a school of detention for 45 days here in Wisconsin last week.
His crime? He had just joined the Cub Scouts and packed his utility unit in his school lunchbox that he got when joining.
It included a small knife with the fork and spoon he was going to use for his lunch.
One day school suspension I could possibly understand but 45 days in a boys school is ridiculous.
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| Oct 14 @ 3:21 AM |
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kjac
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I know children who are alive today because of government interference with the parent's form of discipine. It's not ok to fracture a kid's skull or crack their ribcage. Even if you are the kid's parent.
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| Oct 14 @ 8:02 AM |
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Angel178
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Kjac, that is child abuse. That is a completely different topic and has nothing to do with parenting.
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| Oct 14 @ 12:23 PM |
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kjac
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It is possible I misread alaskanmike's intent. It sounded to me as if he was saying a parent should be able to do whatever they want to their kids just because it's their kid.
If I misunderstood, I apologize.
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