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Oct 5, 2010 @ 12:20 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Suthn_Man


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I don't think most people mind what thread a person starts or not. Or should mind anyway. I just think its about no one trying to control things and not imposing our will on others. And that isn't something we should be doing anyway.

I don't spend much time in the fluff threads either, about kitty cats and the like. but I sure don't get angry about them, because others do enjoy them. And that's fine. So what's to get upset about?

But why should people get upset about what anyone starts up? Just don't let it bother you and don't get involved if it doesn't interest you. If it is interesting, by all means, jump in.

And that's in reference to no one in particular. Just a mindset I wish we all had.

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Oct 5, 2010 @ 12:38 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
signme


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I'm not trying to impose my likes on anyone. For those that like the debates, fine. But I don't. I come here for stress relief. I want to interact with my friends and see who's posted what. But I don't care for the personal attacks on people that have been going on here. I really don't think that's necessary at all. If you don't like someone, fine, don't like them. But why do we all have to know about it? I don't care who you like or don't like. It's none of my business and I don't believe in name-calling so would prefer not to go into threads that I might be interested in and see how some are being ugly and rude.
JMO
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 12:41 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
DiamondRain


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It's a free market of ideas here. I think SM is correct in that is one thing that makes this site better than some others. It certainly is for me.

Topics that are popular with the members are topics that people discuss. Topics that are not so popular are still welcome, but what is anyone supposed to do if no one wants to participate in them? Put a gun to people's heads and force them.

Sorry, you could put bamboo shoots under my fingernails and light them and I still wouldn't post in a thread about cats.

Some people don't like free markets and prefer authoritarian rule (or at least they think they do because they never experienced how horrific it would really be for them). And some of them try to impose that rule with hissy fits about leaving if they don't get their way.

I think that's what this is all about. It's more or less broken down by party lines and ideology just like everything else. One likes free markets and maximum freedom, and one likes a big authoritarian gorilla to force everyone else to conform to their idea of what is acceptable.

(And still others might think I am talking about them when I am not.... SIGN... )

[Edited on 10/5/2010 12:48 AM]
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 12:58 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Suthn_Man


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OkOk.. If SignMe starts a cat thread, I am actually going to go in there and post! I'll endure the fluffy stuff... somehow.

No I mean it. I will post in it. And I don't even have a cat right now. But I'll sign a promissory note in blood. I'm not a blogger though, so its got to be a thread in the forums.

Now how fair is that? Hmmm?

But then she's got to post in one of the News threads.

Fair's fair after all.

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Oct 5, 2010 @ 8:10 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Angel178


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I was just answering the question. No need to get your boxers in a bunch.
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 10:07 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Gallows_Humor


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..you know how they (not talking about boxers here...) get....

btw..

...she's backkkk!!!......

welcome back Spring...
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 10:15 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
lj450


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Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?


Him.....her, whatever. ^ ^ ^ ^




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Oct 5, 2010 @ 11:31 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
burnslikethesun


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Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?
They all haven't left. Just make room for the assjacks that swear you know it all.
The real cool peeps, have gone from entertaining to being entertained. Now wheres my popcorn. As you were, assjacks.

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Oct 5, 2010 @ 11:36 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Heaveninawildflower


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But why should people get upset about what anyone starts up? Just don't let it bother you and don't get involved if it doesn't interest you. If it is interesting, by all means, jump in.

My problem with it isn't about any offense to my sensibilities - I'm from Noo Yawk after all. It's about sheer boredom. I honestly don't want to read about the beefs that people have with each other for pages and pages of what was at one point an interesting thread (e.g. the Bible thread, and the future generations thread). I get tired of reading the same old same old for pages on end, so when I finally see a new person commenting on there and take a peek, if there's a reference to an earlier page, it requires reading over 60, 70 or 80 pages that are mostly constituted of venom to find anything worth reading. I'm not going to ask that they leave or that they be monitored, I'll just ask them to have a heart. If not, that's okay too, but the net result is that I'll just ignore the references and only post in response to more recent comments.
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 11:37 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Loinlee_Sole


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<<<< still awesome.......still leaving
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 11:38 AM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
burnslikethesun


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Clap fuking clap clap Heaven.


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Oct 5, 2010 @ 2:12 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Angel178


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lj is right...it's me...

I appologise








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Oct 5, 2010 @ 3:13 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Loinlee_Sole


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it is you
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 3:46 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
DiamondRain


Posts: 12,247
My problem with it isn't about any offense to my sensibilities - I'm from Noo Yawk after all. It's about sheer boredom. I honestly don't want to read about the beefs that people have with each other for pages and pages of what was at one point an interesting thread (e.g. the Bible thread, and the future generations thread). I get tired of reading the same old same old for pages on end, so when I finally see a new person commenting on there and take a peek, if there's a reference to an earlier page, it requires reading over 60, 70 or 80 pages that are mostly constituted of venom to find anything worth reading. I'm not going to ask that they leave or that they be monitored, I'll just ask them to have a heart. If not, that's okay too, but the net result is that I'll just ignore the references and only post in response to more recent comments.

Here's the problem.

Once you open up the door to appointing someone to make a decision about what is boring and what isn't, what is petty and what isn't, what is offensive and what isn't, etc, you risk having your own interests and points of view censored, everyone loses some freedom and it taints the conversation because people have to figure out how to say something without offending or boring the anointed one who makes those decisions.

If everyone would just follow a few simple practices, then everyone could continue to enjoy the freedom this great site allows:

1. If you're not interested in a thread, or you find it offensive, for whatever reason, DON'T READ IT (unless you enjoy being offended). Most of all, don't complain about how you are tired of reading it but yet you still do. What was that definition of a crazy person again? Someone who repeats the same behavior over and over expecting a different outcome?

2. If you don't like any of the topics others post, post your own. If no one responds and the threads die, it's because not enough people are interested in that topic, it's not the fault of other people who are posting other topics that are of interest to more people.

3. Clearly there are certain topics that a lot of people are interested in and that carry lively discussion. What are you suggesting? That the popular topics should be banned and only the unpopular ones should be allowed? Now there's a winning strategy. Try a little forbearance and humility. Consider that maybe your idea of what is boring or offensive isn't the only opinion that counts. Consider that other people might have a right to express a point of view also and they may not find it boring. You don't need to read or participate, you only need to allow them to express themselves without calling for censorship as they should do for you in return. If everyone practiced this simple thought process it would go a long way to make room for everyone here.

4. If you don't like the people on the site, if they aren't "awesome" enough for you, and if you aren't interested in what most of them seem to like to discuss, maybe you should not participate in the forums, blogs, etc. and just enjoy the other aspects of MD. If that isn't good enough, then yes, maybe you should leave. That's entirely up to you. But to stay and lobby for replacing the discussions that most people are interested in with ones that most are not interested in, by force of some kind, seems like a very selfish endeavor to me.
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 3:57 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Loreli


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DR-
she said HER problem with it....she wasn't trying to appoint herself

MY problem with it is, I love discussing politics, but not when people are immature or mean about it.

Act all tough behind a keyboard....get out and DO something about what you don't like.
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 4:01 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
redhairNfreckles


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I wonder why they locked the "Lawyer's Party" thread today. It's no worse than many of the others.
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 4:03 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
SimplyImp


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Good posts, DR and Heaven. Both of you have very valid points

MY problem with it is, I love discussing politics, but not when people are immature or mean about it.

Act all tough behind a keyboard....get out and DO something about what you don't like.





[Edited on 10/5/2010 4:09 PM]
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Oct 5, 2010 @ 4:30 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Bj864


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I don't think that anyone is suggesting what topics should be discussed or what threads should be started.

What they are objecting to is the tone some of the posters keep adding to the threads. Many of us are really fed up with the insults, put downs, snide remarks and personal attacks. I would hate to think about trying to be in a relationship with some of the people who seem to thrive on putting others down.

I have to take breaks and get away from the anger and negativity at times because I just can't stand to be around it on a daily basis. When I do I miss the decent people that I like to interact with, but it appears the only way to deal with it.

A lot of people enjoy the interaction of forums. It's too bad that some people have to mess it up for others

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Oct 5, 2010 @ 4:55 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
DiamondRain


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MY problem with it is, I love discussing politics, but not when people are immature or mean about it.

I think you miss the important point entirely.

Have you considered that some people consider what you post immature or mean or otherwise unpleasant?

Have you considered that your opinion of whether or not someone else's post is immature or mean might not be the only point of view?

If you open your mind to this possibility, not only will it make the entire discussion forum more tolerable to you, but it will allow everyone more freedom to speak their mind without fear of censorship.

I find lots of posts immature or mean. And at least my share of the meanness is targeted directly at me personally. But it rarely bothers me and never bothers me to the point of complaining to anyone because I realize that these people, no matter how offensive I find what they say, are entitled to their points of view. And I realize that my point of view isn't the only one that is valid or should be allowed.

It's called tolerance and forbearance, and many of the people who promote it the loudest practice it the least.

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Oct 5, 2010 @ 5:33 PM Why are all the Awesome people leaving MD?    
Loreli


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Have you considered that some people consider what you post immature or mean or otherwise unpleasant?

Have you considered that your opinion of whether or not someone else's post is immature or mean might not be the only point of view?


Undoubtedly some do, but I don't keep it up...I snap at people once in awhile, and I don't post much anymore.

and, second part

I'm not stupid....that goes without saying.
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