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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:05 AM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
DiamondRain


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I said US farmers are opting to plant corn instead of wheat because of the ethanol mandate and that was driving up the cost of wheat on the world market. And I was correct.

And that trend is expected to accelerate with the ethanol mandate driving food prices even higher for both American consumers and foreign importers in the next few years.

You may not agree, but the GAO does.

Ethanol to take 30 pct of U.S. corn crop in 2012: GAO

This article is from 2007... so this is what has already been happening.

The extra corn to make ethanol in 2012 will come from planting more acres by putting pastureland and idle land into production, planting corn where other crops like wheat were previously grown, or using corn that would be exported or used as livestock feed, the GAO said.

"Using more corn for energy production will likely exert additional upward pressure on corn prices, potentially influencing livestock feed markets and meat prices," [AND IT DID!] the GAO said in a report to Congress.

However, the agency said there could be harm to the environment if land set aside for water conservation or wildlife habitat is used to grow more corn for ethanol. [AND THERE WAS!]

Planting corn instead of wheat. It's a trend that has been going on since the ethanol mandate began and is only getting stronger as this liberal government pushes this "green" crap further down our throats.

I understand I hit a nerve with you on this topic since it relates to your livelihood and the farm country where you live. But truth is truth and this is it.

And since I am sure someone will mention it, I already know that Bush went along with what Clinton and Gore started and pushed ethanol too. It was a mistake.


[Edited on 2/2/2011 12:17 AM]
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 1:14 AM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
gogetter1956


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Don't the same dopes say this every time it snows? There doesn't need to be a January heatwave in Minnesota to determine that the planet is warming. Your Thanksgiving turkey doesn't need to be on fire to be cooking in the oven. I'm reasonably certain that it's snowed every year since I've been alive. It's not evidence that the planet isn't getting warmer. Melting glaciers, rising seas, and thawing permafrost IS evidence that the planet is getting warmer, and in fact contributing to the problem.

I might be going out on a limb here, but my clairvoyant powers are telling me that we'll have another snowy winter next year. Why don't these same tards howl when the temp starts to rise in the spring?


Yeah the climate fluxuates around the globe. It has happened before, long before industrialized societies became the norm.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 3:33 AM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
Dillweed


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Yeah the climate fluxuates around the globe. It has happened before, long before industrialized societies became the norm.

Really GoGetter? How would you know since you weren't around to see it happen. Aren't you relying on scientists for that information? I'm pretty sure it's not in the bible.

*laughs*

Yeah GoGetter, the same scientists you now want to call hoaxters for claiming that "industrialized" society is now speeding up the warming of the planet. Did you consciously refuse to check out the links that I posted in my previous comment, and then have the audacity to base your claims on scientific evidence?

Here's the thing, and I'll repeat it as much as is necessary until it either sinks in of my fingers are worn to raw, tattered, bony nubs. We DO have the ability to warm the planet, thanks to you and your 30+ yr. old sh*tbox trucks that indeed SHOULD be taken off the road...and everyone like you who believes that they are not contributing to the problem.

I don't know why I bother. A watermelon has more capacity for critical thinking.

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Feb 2, 2011 @ 4:42 AM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
Nightowl001


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It is truly disturbing that the "know nothings" and naysayers have, or can even claim to deserve, a place at the table in any debate on scientific matters.

As DW pointed out, GG, those same scientists who are saying there is evidence of global climate change due to human contributions to greenhouse gases are the same ones on whom you are relying on to back up your claim that climate fluctuated in the past.

You are happy to claim they are right about the things you agree with, but claim they are wrong about the things you disagree with, with no educational foundation and no evidence to explain why they are wrong when you disagree. And, again, it disgusts me that people arguing from such a position of ignorance claim any right to have a voice in policy on matters about which they are clearly ignorant.

During record-breaking heat and drought in the Middle East and US Southwest and South American high plains over last summer, where were your smarmy comments about "Al Gore's global warming"? Despite record precipitation (predicted, in fact, by higher temperatures, because warm air will hold more moisture), global average temperatures are NOT below average this winter. You are operating on only half the facts and no logic.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 5:47 AM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
eyesofastranger


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A lot of money has been spent trying to convince people that there is a debate. If you talk to climate scientists they have no money but they also have no debate. So they share information and move forward best they can.
So we will lose the grain belt of the world while people argue about the false info they are fed by people that can afford it.
The real corker in this big picture is virtually simultaneously as we loose the grain belts we will also see a collapse of the fisheries. Without exaggeration how do you picture a world with 4/6ths of it's food source now gone? Is it worth exploring if it's a remote possibility? Is it worth discussing if it means a harder life? Does it mean someone will go house to house rounding up light bulbs?
When the grain belts are gone precipitation will shift. We could see all our crops coming from the Sahara or central Africa. So we are prepared for the 20 years without food until that is doable? I think the discussion has merit.
If you have access to a machine that does Mass spectrometry you will find that YOU yes YOU are chuck fullllll of synthetic estrogen's. That's the only way we can grow enough food to feed us. Yes we all have to live with various thyroid conditions as the effects are cumulative. Here in the north we have Inuit eating seal blubber and clearly all have defects at birth and we are spending huge money looking after them. I don't recommend eating any marine mammals high in the food chain. But no problem. Carry on.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 7:10 AM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
gogetter1956


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Really GoGetter? How would you know since you weren't around to see it happen. Aren't you relying on scientists for that information? I'm pretty sure it's not in the bible.

*laughs*

Yeah GoGetter, the same scientists you now want to call hoaxters for claiming that "industrialized" society is now speeding up the warming of the planet. Did you consciously refuse to check out the links that I posted in my previous comment, and then have the audacity to base your claims on scientific evidence?

Here's the thing, and I'll repeat it as much as is necessary until it either sinks in of my fingers are worn to raw, tattered, bony nubs. We DO have the ability to warm the planet, thanks to you and your 30+ yr. old sh*tbox trucks that indeed SHOULD be taken off the road...and everyone like you who believes that they are not contributing to the problem.

I don't know why I bother. A watermelon has more capacity for critical thinking.


Scientists gather evidence and make their theories based on that evidence. If you look at the evidence one way you you could make a case for man made global warming. If you look at the evidence another way you make a case for naturally occurring climate change. They prepoderance of evidence leans toward naturally occurring climate change.

So you want my truck off of the road? Are you going to give me a newer one that meets your standards, because right now I can't afford to buy one and it's all I have.? I didn't think so. Put your money where your mouth is.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 7:59 AM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
sealacamp


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Really GoGetter? How would you know since you weren't around to see it happen. Aren't you relying on scientists for that information? I'm pretty sure it's not in the bible.

Do you have to be somewhere to know what happened there? Is it necessary for it to be in the bible? Isn't archeological evidence valid when it relates to climate? GG is right and you just can't stand to hear something that doesn't coincide with your leftist mantra. You fools are dead wrong and you know it and you can't stand to hear the truth. Thus confirming once again that leftists live in fantasy land. You are on the inside (your bubble) looking out and you don't even know what it is that you see.

It is truly disturbing that the "know nothings" and naysayers have, or can even claim to deserve, a place at the table in any debate on scientific matters.

That's funny your sitting there. Typical leftist, if you can't win the argument or you can't refute the argument then just discredit those you disagree with and yeah you won. Well only in your mind. Yep you are a legend in your own mind, like good leftists always are.

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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:08 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
SweetNapaGuy


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Yeah the climate fluxuates around the globe. It has happened before, long before industrialized societies became the norm.

The difference being, the time scale.

There's a difference between "the climate changed over a period of ten thousand years" and "the climate changed over a period of fifty years."
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:19 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
gogetter1956


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Scientists don't know how long it took. Volcanoes and animals put out more exhaust then we do. They have always existed and their numbers have always fluctuated.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:28 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
Nightowl001


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So you want my truck off of the road? Are you going to give me a newer one that meets your standards, because right now I can't afford to buy one and it's all I have.?
Why should anyone else pay for anything for you to make money off of, without polluting their air? Your customers are supposed to provide any income you need to maintain your responsibility to keep your business running properly and legally.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:51 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
gogetter1956


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Yeah in your fantasy world things are suppose to work a certain way and a certain way only. Well guess what? There is a certain thing called real life and it just so happens to kick in when we least expect it. If you don't make provisions for real life then your ideas won't work.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:54 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
SweetNapaGuy


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So basically, you're "more equal" than everyone else. You have the right to ignore any law you please, if and when it becomes inconvenient to you.

Gotcha.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:58 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
Dillweed


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Scientists don't know how long it took. Volcanoes and animals put out more exhaust then we do. They have always existed and their numbers have always fluctuated.

GoGetter, do you know why there are different layers in glacier ice? It's almost the same reason that trees have rings. Wouldn't it be fun to learn a little something before you go spouting off?

Wait, don't answer that. I forgot about your sophophobia.
(that's a fun word, isn't it?)

If you don't make provisions for real life then your ideas won't work.

Are you referring to "real life", as in everything that lives on the planet besides you? Here's a little wake-up call for you GoGetter; You're an insignificant pigeonsh*t splat on the sidewalk of the grand scheme of things, and "real life" doesn't give a rat's balls about you and your shi*tbox, hydrocarbon-spewing trucks.

Don't tell me to put my money where my mouth is and buy you anything...talk about a welfare case. Maybe you should have spent more money on vehicles, you cheap prick.



[Edited on 2/2/2011 1:17 PM]
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 12:59 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
Loinlee_Sole


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my car is stuck in the global warming right now
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 1:08 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
gogetter1956


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GoGetter, do you know why there are different layers in glacier ice? It's almost the same reason that trees have rings. Wouldn't it be fun to learn a little something before you go spouting off?

Wait, don't answer that. I forgot about your sophophobia.
(that's a fun word, isn't it?)

The operative word is "almost". The layers represent major storms, not years. That makes a big difference. Major storms are not on any kind of a consistent time table, so dating them annually is bad science with bad conclusions. I’m not any kind of phobic. I’m realistic and grounded here on earth.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 1:19 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
Dillweed


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The operative word is "almost".


As in "some people are "almost" as stupid as lobotomized earthworms.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 1:20 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
Dillweed


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*he said as he posted twice*

Damn, the snow just changed to sleet...that means the earth is warming. I don't need to be a scientist to figure that out.
*snickers*
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 4:22 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
eastham


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Once again, a confusion of weather with climate. They are not one and the same. Furthermore, while we have certainly seen lots of snow here in the Northeast, we have not had very many brutally cold days.

And to a comment raised about the grain belts...I heard a very interesting story last night on NPR. There is a link between the failure of grain crops and the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt. Last year, Russia, which remains the largest exporter of corn, wheat and other grains around the world, had a horrendous year. Nearly 30% of its crop was distroyed by either drought or fire. Australia, which is another major producer of the world's grains, has suffered through years of drought. People in Egypt, Tunisia and elsewhere in the developing world subsist on a diet that is either predominantly or overwhelmingly grain-based. Due to increased prices the average Egyptian forks out over 50% of his monthly income for food! A small increase in prices has a profound effect on the welfare of a family that earns $60 per month -- which is average in Egypt.
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 5:04 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
gogetter1956


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NPR has their head in the clouds and doesn't even know that the USA is the worlds leading exporter of wheat Leftist loonie talk
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Feb 2, 2011 @ 5:09 PM How is Al Gore's Global Warming working out for you?    
SweetNapaGuy


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USA is the worlds leading exporter of wheat

And yet we're still about the #10 IMPORTER of wheat, as well.
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