| Jan 27, 2006 @ 1:45 AM |
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lecriveuse
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my job has been a pill for the past week.
my sup screamed at the younger workers in the office cos she thinks "that's the only way these kids understand". ok. i end up going to the doctor thinking i'm having a heart attack when it's just stress. she gives me a lovely blue pill and a note to pardon me from work while i bask in a coma.  amy eventually apologized and said she's never referring to me cos i do what i should (and i'm sure walking on glass now). 
tonight, a fight broke out in the hallway, one of my co-workers got sent home for mouthing my manager and the big guy of the whole bldg went straight ghetto on one of the teeny boppers who disrespected a temp mgr while ours was in the ER.
wtf is with people these days? managers aren't supposed to scream at people, and no one should be telling adults (ok, let's argue 18 is adult even though they can't buy the beer) they should be respectful and responsible at work. the guy who got sent home thinks he's a distinguished gentleman @ 22. hell, i've got relatives who will tell me to do something, and i do -- even at 46! 
i'm thinking i should sign management up for the online HR classes, too. 
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 2:19 AM |
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SunBabe
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i'm thinking i should sign management up for the online HR classes, too
The remedial ones! 
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 5:31 AM |
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sciurusniger
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Lecri, that's the difference between being a manager and being a leader.
One manages things, one leads people.
What's the old saying about a real diplomat being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way they look forward to the trip?
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 5:56 AM |
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EyesofBlue72660
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a real diplomat being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way they look forward to the trip? 
Yes, the fine art of "diplomacy" is definitely becoming extinct!!
I've found that there seems to be two reasons for situations such as the one at Lec's workplace:
1) Individuals placed in management positions may have the education, qualifications and experience; however, a tremendous amount of them have no "people skills". Even if they are receiving pressure from their higher-ups, they should have the capability of relating to and inspiring their team.
2) MUTUAL RESPECT is sorely lacking!!! Need I say more?!?!?
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 7:16 AM |
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beatriceistheone
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Lecriv:
Office politics is the same everywhere. Don't feel like you are alone. TGIF - two whole days of not seeing co-workers with mental issues.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 12:40 PM |
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lecriveuse
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Individuals placed in management positions may have the education, qualifications and experience
imh experiences, many sups have been promoted cos of longevity (1 year on a job  ) or nepotism. they don't have any training, qualifications or experience; and u want people skills, too?
i've been wondering what i could do on my own, and i think i have it: seminars, etc. about how to teach these people to be effective managers. i did go in the mgmt program here last year, and i was BORED. it was all motherwit to me (except for management styles, and they spent a long 10 minutes on that).
beatrice, i don't do office politics, and that's the first thing i tell anyone. we don't have to love one another, and we should do the work in a professional manner. i put my headset on and totally ignore people. one of my co-worker laughs at how i don't hear anyone when i'm on the phone with a customer. well duh. 
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 6:26 PM |
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SunBabe
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YES!!
Besides a weekly newspaper column (syndicated ) that I've had envisioned for you , I think you've hit the nail on the head with those seminars.
About 15 years or so ago I worked in Admissions at a local Community College in Connecticut. It was extremely rewarding watching students who had to start with "developmental" classes finally graduate in a couple of years.
But one area that was lacking was ACTUAL experience or knowledge of the business world -- these people hadn't a clue what to do once they did get a job. They didn't know the difference between "professionalism" and playground behavior.
I'd proposed a series of four days of classes and a field trip to one of the local corporate headquarters. The program would expand upon resume' and interview techniques, which the career counselors offered, and discuss phone ettiquite, appropriate dress and make up/grooming, appropriate language, office conflict management, etc etc etc...culminating in the office tour and lunch in the company cafeteria: another lesson venue -- table manners.
Unfortunately, we had a funding cutback -- same old story.
There are SO many things kids (and adults!) are not prepared for once they hit the "real world" job market. Some catch on naturally, but some need to be taught...and some just need the boost in confidence to not be intimidated or frustrated.
Your idea of "Seminars", Lecri, sounds fantastic -- not only in the business field, but perhaps through high scools, junior colleges and 'alternative' back-to-work programs.
(Before I left Connecticut, I donated a lot of my "professional"/office attire clothes to the local "Dress for Success" program that assisted former welfare ladies who were entering the workforce -- a series of seminars would have fit right into their goals)
The seminars could be for different levels: new employees as well as new and "seasoned" managers.
GOOD LUCK!!
Seriously, I think you've found a "hook" -- and an escape hatch
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 8:01 PM |
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Classy_Blonde
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You also reminded me of another class we participated in at Verizon. A speaker came to our department, and she taught us different physical and mind exercises to do while working, to help us cope with the stressful work environment. I think she got paid good money, and since we had close to 200 employees in the one department, she was there for a good week.
This was just one of many offices she visited. Imagine how busy you could be, going from business to business.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 8:22 PM |
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EyesofBlue72660
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i've been wondering what i could do on my own, and i think i have it: seminars, etc. about how to teach these people to be effective managers.
Lec......we could go into business together! Seminars and/or direct consulting----go into offices/companies and troubleshoot, then advise! Wouldn't we just get their management personnel in line?!? Not to mention increase moral, respect and loyalty among the staff, thereby creating an even stronger work ethic and company!!
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 8:37 PM |
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lecriveuse
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you're all just too kind. ty ty. i do like the idea about the syndicated column (ham in action); eyes, another woman had approached me in college about something similiar (she wanted me to move to CA, and i said no cos i didn't think classy wuz home).
increase moral, respect and loyalty among the staff, thereby creating an even stronger work ethic and company!!
absolutely. when spend so much time at work; why can't it be enjoyable and productive for all?
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 11:12 PM |
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Angel54214
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My medical company had a layoff about 3 weeks ago. Employees count went from 35 down to 18. I won't be let go so I was told. They say I one of the best employees they have!
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 12:16 AM |
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lecriveuse
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good for u, angel.
most of my experiences have been with texan and arkansan businesses. they won't fire unproductive, disruptive employees; i HATE when they make broad sweeping announcements about behavior when they're targeting one person. what gets me about my place of work is my sup announcing stuff about people being written up and stuff. that's confidential as hell!
especially with downsizing, companies need to keep people who can and will work effectively. dead weight, slackers, etc., should be taken through grievance processes and dismissed if they don't correct their behavior. what's so complicated about this? quit wasting money on these people and adequately compensate the folks who are doing the real work.
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 2:07 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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my job has been a pill for the past week.
Lec, you have my deepest sympathy...! Considering how much of our time we spend there, having a job you really don't like or working for someone you don't respect is really the pits.
Here in the great southwest every day is jeans day, shorts or sweats are fine if you want, we're very casual about dress, but anyone who acts out with a coworker, regardless of level, is going to hear about it. It's all about respect for each other, but truthfully I work in a super pressure cooker environment. We keep our sanity by laughing at it and supporting each other...although we've all agreed that sanity is overrated.
I've put in over 60 hours this week and I expect it to continue thru the weekend. The up side is that I'm not the only one... shared joy is doubled, shared pain is halved, and we really are like family that way. It's the way I wish it were for everyone, but without the 60 hour weeks!!
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 2:28 AM |
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lecriveuse
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Here in the great southwest every day is jeans day, shorts or sweats are fine if you want, we're very casual about dress, but anyone who acts out with a coworker, regardless of level, is going to hear about it.
it should be like that everywhere. i dont feel any less professional if i went to work in sweats than a 3 piece. its sad that some of these employers are so backward! i like ur attitude about joys being doubled and problems are halved. that's the way it should be. they should let u come in and clean house here, heaven.
sanity is always overrated. 
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 2:32 AM |
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SunBabe
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You NEED to get out of ~shudder~  Arkansas! 
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 3:04 AM |
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lecriveuse
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i KNOW. i'm pedaling as fast as i can. 
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